So Mr Dean, you've admitted acting dishonestly in that instance - so why should we believe you haven't acted dishonestly in others?
Quote from: LeonW on August 25, 2023, 06:16:09 PMQuote from: paul_e on August 25, 2023, 03:05:21 PMAs I've said many times the best change that could come to VAR is to make the audio available.The system works in Rugby and Cricket because, if you want to, you can hear the conversation between the on-field official and the TV ref. It wouldn't fix the specific issue that Dean raised there (which is gross negligence and not a VAR specific problem) but it would remove a lot of the problems.How you play that out in the ground is more difficult but the little radios work reasonably well for the cricket and rugby so probably copy them there as well.What the existence of VAR does do though is acknowledge that the rules (or more accurately how they're used) at the very highest level of sport has to be different to park matches. Trying to continue with the "it's the same game at every level" thing was commendable but hasn't really made worked since the amount of footage available and the money involved went through the roof in the early 90s.I don’t think they’ll ever have the VAR audio available in real time because it will confirm what we all know and what Dean admitted to recently.Which is exactly why we need it and why people should push for it.
Quote from: paul_e on August 25, 2023, 03:05:21 PMAs I've said many times the best change that could come to VAR is to make the audio available.The system works in Rugby and Cricket because, if you want to, you can hear the conversation between the on-field official and the TV ref. It wouldn't fix the specific issue that Dean raised there (which is gross negligence and not a VAR specific problem) but it would remove a lot of the problems.How you play that out in the ground is more difficult but the little radios work reasonably well for the cricket and rugby so probably copy them there as well.What the existence of VAR does do though is acknowledge that the rules (or more accurately how they're used) at the very highest level of sport has to be different to park matches. Trying to continue with the "it's the same game at every level" thing was commendable but hasn't really made worked since the amount of footage available and the money involved went through the roof in the early 90s.I don’t think they’ll ever have the VAR audio available in real time because it will confirm what we all know and what Dean admitted to recently.
As I've said many times the best change that could come to VAR is to make the audio available.The system works in Rugby and Cricket because, if you want to, you can hear the conversation between the on-field official and the TV ref. It wouldn't fix the specific issue that Dean raised there (which is gross negligence and not a VAR specific problem) but it would remove a lot of the problems.How you play that out in the ground is more difficult but the little radios work reasonably well for the cricket and rugby so probably copy them there as well.What the existence of VAR does do though is acknowledge that the rules (or more accurately how they're used) at the very highest level of sport has to be different to park matches. Trying to continue with the "it's the same game at every level" thing was commendable but hasn't really made worked since the amount of footage available and the money involved went through the roof in the early 90s.
VAR the way it was used at Hibs on Wednesday was fine. The way is is used in the Premier League by PGMOL is far from fine.
Watching a bit of the rugby WC. Their VAR system is just superb. I know it’s a different game in terms of rugby is more stop start anyway, but just the speed and transparency is incredibly. On TV they show the discussion and video being reviewed.
The point that it's not the same game is that it's not the same game.
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