VAR

[Meanwood Villa]

The genie isn't going back in the bottle so anyone thinking it is going to stop being used is delusional. I agree that its introduction has shown up top flight refereeing to be worringly incompetent. PGMOL have handled it very poorly in my opinion. Having said which, I've seen it suggested that someone other than PGMOL should run it but I'm not entirely sure who that would be? Are there a load of refs outside that organisation just waiting to step in? I doubt it.

[Jon Crofts]

The TMO audio isn't heard in grounds. Not every football game is broadcast in this country. To eavesdrop on any conversation would just be pandering to someone sat on a sofa potentially thousands of miles away.

|Every game of top flight rugby game I've been to had vendors outside selling comms devices for a few quid where you can listen in to the ref.

RefLink. But it doesn't alter the fact that unlike a lot of people seem to think, because they only ever watch it on the telly, the audio is not broadcast via the pa in the grounds.

No it's not. And there's no headsets available to buy here in Marseille.

RefLink is UK based and has a licence to operate from the RFU so no, you won’t get one in France.

[Ian.]

Is it any better outside of the Premier league? Or just as shit? If not why do we have to employ British referees? If they are better elsewhere maybe the premier league should search further afield and spend some of their money on a better organisation. 

[Jon Crofts]

Unless the Big Scab 6 get together and complain I doubt anything or anyone will change.

[lovejoy]

It works better in English rugby as you can hear the discussion and the laws often have a logic flow to them. The problem is this involves many stops in play which football fans insist is not tolerable. I do think we should hear the conclusion of such incidents. The Guimares elbow for example.

[LeeB]

How was that c**t still on the pitch at the end by the way?

[Dave]

Is it any better outside of the Premier league? Or just as shit? If not why do we have to employ British referees?

It doesn't seem so problematic elsewhere. Or maybe people here just get angrier about it.

And we don't, Jarred Gillett came in from the A-League.

[Axl Rose]

How was that c**t still on the pitch at the end by the way?

He's slowly become one of my most hated players. He's a good player, but he's a complete ******, and a perfect fit for that lot

[luke95]

I don't think the refs are that bad to be honest.
It's the intervention of VAR that's the problem.

There are 4 officials officiating a game , if they can't get a subjective decision right between them what is the point of adding another 2or3 officials & their opinions .
For on/offside decisions , did the refs & linesman really get that many clear & obvious decisions wrong to warrant VAR .

Scrap it .

[LeeB]

How was that c**t still on the pitch at the end by the way?

He's slowly become one of my most hated players. He's a good player, but he's a complete ******, and a perfect fit for that lot

They've got a fair few, Burn and Wilson are a pair nob rots as well, Wilson another one that was lucky to stay on the pitch with his MMA antics.

[Nev]

I rarely watch Soccer Saturday but it really brings into focus how disruptive and counter productive VAR is when seen across more than one game. It slows the pace of what is an entertaining watch, just as it spoils actual games, adding in another opinion from that scouse ref which is utterly irrelevant and a waste of time.

Regardless of whether VAR gets decision right or wrong it's destroying the game.

[Ian.]

Is it any better outside of the Premier league? Or just as shit? If not why do we have to employ British referees?

It doesn't seem so problematic elsewhere. Or maybe people here just get angrier about it.

And we don't, Jarred Gillett came in from the A-League.

If it’s working better elsewhere we really need to look into how other nations are implementing things. It’s been rubbish again this year and shows no signs of improvement.

The problem is, it’s so often far to subjective and when they slow it all down it takes away all context of what happened.

Fans and pundits have argued over incidents after the match for decades, now it seems this is happening during the game with a group of blokes with a load of tech, remote control and different camera angles and become a ridiculous joke.

[Baldy]

VAR and referees are great when the decision goes in your favour.

VAR and referees are shit when the decision goes against you.

That is just how football works. In the main, opposing teams have opposing views.

Football is a game of differing opinions. Always has been, always will be. There never has been and never will be, a perfect solution!!

At least VAR has eliminated some of the glaring refereeing decisions. For this reason I would keep it, but certainly fine tune it.

[Risso]

The biggest thing for me is that it's taken away the element of spontaneus celebration after a goal is scored. The marginal benefits it's brought in in terms of eliminating mistakes isn't worth that sacrifice.

[ChicagoLion]

The biggest thing for me is that it's taken away the element of spontaneus celebration after a goal is scored. The marginal benefits it's brought in in terms of eliminating mistakes isn't worth that sacrifice.

Exactly this, I would not mind say if the VAR see something obvious and tell the ref to have a look before awarding the goal but checking every goal is just tedious and unnecessary.