This seems to have developed a bit of momentum over the last few days - any comments from PGMOL to explain the inconsistency?
So does this mean if Martinez had made a worse attempt at a save we'd be more likely to get the goal ruled out for offside? (I appreciate it would still need to hit the back of his head...)
Quote from: artvandelay on February 21, 2023, 12:47:56 PMSo does this mean if Martinez had made a worse attempt at a save we'd be more likely to get the goal ruled out for offside? (I appreciate it would still need to hit the back of his head...)Ridiculous as it sounds, quite possibly yes. Although the distance it travelled is primarily what they're hanging their hats on. And perhaps more worryingly, the lack of protest by the players.https://www.espn.com/soccer/english-premier-league/story/4878634/the-var-review-marcel-sabitzer-red-card-arsenal-offside-goal-kehrer-handball
I guess lots of referee calls are subjective to a certain extent, eg was it a foul, or was it a dive etc. But it's very difficult to argue that the Arsenal players weren't interfering with player given how close they both were to Martinez. If it was just one of them, then maybe there'd be a case, but both of them there and not getting the decision is a piss take. If that's not interfering with play, then I'd like to see an example of what clearly is.
Quote from: Risso on February 21, 2023, 12:14:09 PMI guess lots of referee calls are subjective to a certain extent, eg was it a foul, or was it a dive etc. But it's very difficult to argue that the Arsenal players weren't interfering with player given how close they both were to Martinez. If it was just one of them, then maybe there'd be a case, but both of them there and not getting the decision is a piss take. If that's not interfering with play, then I'd like to see an example of what clearly is.I refer you to exactly the same thing when we had a goal disallowed down there. That’s the difference. That goal should have been disallowed for simply obvious reasons but it wasn’t. I listened to Dermot Gallagher try and explain it the other day and like everything he explains it in favour of his VAR mates. Listening to him it’s excruciating. Like he’s taking one of those painful hard shits where the beast is coming out sideways.
Quote from: artvandelay on February 21, 2023, 12:47:56 PMSo does this mean if Martinez had made a worse attempt at a save we'd be more likely to get the goal ruled out for offside? (I appreciate it would still need to hit the back of his head...)No. If Martinez had made a worse attempt at saving that shot he would have been no where near the ball to head it back in.