VAR

[London Villan]

Its like playing pool in a pub you don’t with the locals playing to the pub rules you don’t know. You cant win...

[LukeJames]

Had Oliver not given the pen VAR would have told him to look at that foul and with a look at the monitor he’d have given it. That’s how fucked up all this is.

I said exactly this aswell.

[Ian.]

Had Oliver not given the pen VAR would have told him to look at that foul and with a look at the monitor he’d have given it. That’s how fucked up all this is.

I said exactly this aswell.

It’s bloody true as well. What a fucking mess this has turned into. Bloody joke.

[Risso]

Just watched it for first time. Didn't look a pen to me.

Same here. If that had been against us and a penalty had been given this place would be up in arms.

I can’t see how in any universe whether for or against us, that isn’t a pen. He kicks the player’s shin, which is a foul. A foul in the box is a penalty.

[German James]

Just watched it for first time. Didn't look a pen to me.

Same here. If that had been against us and a penalty had been given this place would be up in arms.

I can’t see how in any universe whether for or against us, that isn’t a pen. He kicks the player’s shin, which is a foul. A foul in the box is a penalty.

Especially now, when the slightest contact, only visible on slowed down HD, is enough.

[Toronto Villa]

I think it was a pen. The fact is he touch the ball first. Yes he also got Trez, and Trez giving the full Klinsmann didn’t help. But if it was against us and our defender had clearly touched it first I’d have been upset.

[LukeJames]

But its irrelevant if the defender touched it first if he then goes through the attackers shin.

[olaftab]

Absolutely it was a pen. March was beaten however his foot slightly deflected the ball on its way to kicking Trezeguet in the shin. If that kick had not made contact Trezeguet would have been able to to control the ball and score. It's not as if March got any substantial directional contact on the ball and even if he did he still fouled.
It's clear that VAR made and obvious error and Oliver's balls shrunk behind recognition. 

[Lastfootstamper]

It was a penalty, the same as this

 was a penalty

[Ian.]

March’s reaction was a giveaway, he knew he gave away a penalty. You could see that and the fact Trez was taken out from every angle. I don’t get the reasoning from the commentators about the angle changing the refs mind.

The worst thing with VAR is now nearly every match there is far more controversial decisions than we ever had before.

[Ad@m]

Just watched it for first time. Didn't look a pen to me.

Same here. If that had been against us and a penalty had been given this place would be up in arms.

I can’t see how in any universe whether for or against us, that isn’t a pen. He kicks the player’s shin, which is a foul. A foul in the box is a penalty.

For all the part time refs on here saying that whether he got the ball or not is irrelevant, a professional referee, in full view of the world, clearly said the reason for overturning the penalty award was that the defender got the ball.

Sure, refs make the odd mistake, but he's got a better grasp of the rules than any of us, and the fact the defender got the ball was the deciding factor.

If that had been one of our defenders there's no way anyone on here would've said it was a penalty.

[aj2k77]

I hate this fucking thing.

[olaftab]

Last year in similar circumstances VAR award Spurs a pen at Villa Park. Engels got his foot to the ball but in doing so brought down Spurs player.

[Ad@m]

Last year in similar circumstances VAR award Spurs a pen at Villa Park. Engels got his foot to the ball but in doing so brought down Moura.

How many people responded "well done VAR - getting the big decisions right"?!

[Lastfootstamper]

Just watched it for first time. Didn't look a pen to me.

Same here. If that had been against us and a penalty had been given this place would be up in arms.

I can’t see how in any universe whether for or against us, that isn’t a pen. He kicks the player’s shin, which is a foul. A foul in the box is a penalty.

For all the part time refs on here saying that whether he got the ball or not is irrelevant, a professional referee, in full view of the world, clearly said the reason for overturning the penalty award was that the defender got the ball.

Sure, refs make the odd mistake, but he's got a better grasp of the rules than any of us, and the fact the defender got the ball was the deciding factor.

If that had been one of our defenders there's no way anyone on here would've said it was a penalty.

We had people on here saying Grealish fouled Bellerin.