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Offline LeonW

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2370 on: January 14, 2022, 09:09:07 PM »
Although it has just got two decisions spot on in the Brighton/Palace game.

A broken clock is right twice a day.

Offline Chris Harte

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2371 on: January 16, 2022, 03:39:23 PM »
VAR has just ruled out a (4th) goal for Leeds at West Ham. A real situation where the rules over-rule common sense.

Online Nev

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2372 on: January 23, 2022, 03:56:33 PM »
It doesn't work.

Offline andyh

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2373 on: January 23, 2022, 04:07:32 PM »
VAR is fucking shit, but when referees go the screen, watch a super slow motion replay countless times and STILL arrive at the wrong decision then you realise the problems are deeper than the technology.



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Re: VAR
« Reply #2374 on: January 23, 2022, 04:11:07 PM »
No, for VAR to even intervene on the matter of that Liverpool penalty was ridiculous, and to end up with a  decision so grossly wrong, made with the benefit of VAR, is shocking.

Online Nev

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2375 on: January 23, 2022, 04:11:48 PM »
No matter how outraged everyone is, including me, and Shearer is not holding back either, it is a subjective decision, a matter of opinion and not fact so it renders the technology redundant.

That's why it just doesn't work.

Offline Goldenballs

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« Reply #2376 on: January 23, 2022, 04:12:22 PM »
It lets professional referees look at a situation multiple times, in slow motion, from multiple angles. If they still get the decision wrong, then it's because they're fucking shit.

Offline exigo

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« Reply #2377 on: January 23, 2022, 04:13:56 PM »
And who is on VAR today, telling the ref to have a look at the monitor after today's Guaita/Jota coming together? Why, none other than the referee at our game yesterday who didn't want to know when Pickford took out Watkins in identical fashion.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2378 on: January 23, 2022, 04:15:05 PM »
I think they seriously need to bin off the current top flight refs in this country and restructure their organisation, they're getting worse year on year.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2379 on: January 23, 2022, 04:16:22 PM »
But yeah, Nev is right. It doesn't work and never will.

Online Nev

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2380 on: January 23, 2022, 04:21:06 PM »
I'm all for improving refereeing standards but VAR was never the answer, and never will be. All you get is the huge frustration of 2 officials getting it wrong rather than one. It's also shone a spotlight on the bias towards the top clubs.

Offline Goldenballs

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2381 on: January 23, 2022, 04:41:33 PM »
I'm still for it because without it you know some absolute stone wall pens wouldn't be given at places like OT. Just needs some competent people to use it correctly.

I'd love someone to make a montage of like for like situations where decisions were/weren't given. Then get the officials to try and weasel out of it.

Offline LeonW

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« Reply #2382 on: January 23, 2022, 06:07:35 PM »
I'm still for it because without it you know some absolute stone wall pens wouldn't be given at places like OT. Just needs some competent people to use it correctly.

I'd love someone to make a montage of like for like situations where decisions were/weren't given. Then get the officials to try and weasel out of it.

That would require them to communicate/elaborate. Something we know that the PGMOL won’t do. They don’t want dialogue because it will highlight the inconsistencies in VAR’s application/use.

Offline Drummond

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2383 on: January 23, 2022, 06:18:04 PM »
Vat would be absolutely fine if it were a different organisation running it. At the moment it's all pals together with no real accountability, a bit like the Tory government.

Offline tomd2103

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2384 on: January 23, 2022, 09:07:44 PM »
I'm all for improving refereeing standards but VAR was never the answer, and never will be. All you get is the huge frustration of 2 officials getting it wrong rather than one. It's also shone a spotlight on the bias towards the top clubs.

It has also absolved responsibility of the on field referee, as they can simply turn round and say "it wasn't my decision, I was advised to give it". 

 


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