FWIW, I only saw the last half-hour so cannot comment on what went before but, on the Kane penalty incident, as we know he was through to a one-on-one with the 'keeper and from the referee's position it looked a certain penalty and remember he only gives what he sees, it's only afterwards when VAR intercedes to inform him he's in error. Where the criticism arises IMO, is the linesman who, is supposed to be as near as possible level with the last defender, had he been so he would have had a much clearer view of the incident and as a matter of course drew the referee's attention to it. Notwithstanding the relatively poorer standard of refereeing we have at the moment, it's still all too easy to blame them for an honest mistake. VAR served its purpose on that one, it's the linesman who should be called into question.
The Spurs Chelsea game last night is exactly why we need VARThere's a long way to go in getting the implementation right, but incompetence like that should not be allowed to stand.
Do linesmen even give penalties anymore? I can't remember the last time I was one signal for a spot-kick..
Quote from: chrisw1 on January 13, 2022, 09:49:18 AMThe Spurs Chelsea game last night is exactly why we need VARThere's a long way to go in getting the implementation right, but incompetence like that should not be allowed to stand.SB makes a very valid point regarding this just before you posted. Those penalties were such poor decisions by the onfield the ref var had an easy tap in to get involved and make themselves look good. Fortunate timing for them after they were universally ridiculed for ruling out our equaliser at OT.
Quote from: dave shelley on January 13, 2022, 09:50:49 AMFWIW, I only saw the last half-hour so cannot comment on what went before but, on the Kane penalty incident, as we know he was through to a one-on-one with the 'keeper and from the referee's position it looked a certain penalty and remember he only gives what he sees, it's only afterwards when VAR intercedes to inform him he's in error. Where the criticism arises IMO, is the linesman who, is supposed to be as near as possible level with the last defender, had he been so he would have had a much clearer view of the incident and as a matter of course drew the referee's attention to it. Notwithstanding the relatively poorer standard of refereeing we have at the moment, it's still all too easy to blame them for an honest mistake. VAR served its purpose on that one, it's the linesman who should be called into question.Dave, with your experience do you not think the very existence of VAR is leading to the officials not getting involved anymore, because they don't want to look like fools when the camera looks again but also knowing that the camera will do the work for them?
VAR should be a good addition to our game. Unfortunately the way it's managed is shockingly inconsistent. And that's the problem.
Quote from: London Villan on January 13, 2022, 11:54:55 AMDo linesmen even give penalties anymore? I can't remember the last time I was one signal for a spot-kick..I don't think they do I can't remember the last time I saw a linesman put his flag across his chest.