Quote from: PeterWithesShin on June 23, 2019, 10:34:27 PMQuote from: Chinchilla Bathhouse on June 23, 2019, 10:25:28 PMIt's not about not thinking too big, it's about not getting ahead of ourselves. I'd love us to think bloody massive, starting with the football. Chuck shedloads of money at that first, make progress on the field, that's the biggest single thing that'll bring the crowds in. Everything follows from there. There's nothing Doug Ellis about that whatsoever.The crowds are being brought in with record ST sales, and it will be the best part of at least a year before it happens so the club has the opportunity to asses demand etc.That's great, I'm not in the market for a season ticket so didn't know they were in record demand. Hopefully this is the start of something big then, on and off the field.
Quote from: Chinchilla Bathhouse on June 23, 2019, 10:25:28 PMIt's not about not thinking too big, it's about not getting ahead of ourselves. I'd love us to think bloody massive, starting with the football. Chuck shedloads of money at that first, make progress on the field, that's the biggest single thing that'll bring the crowds in. Everything follows from there. There's nothing Doug Ellis about that whatsoever.The crowds are being brought in with record ST sales, and it will be the best part of at least a year before it happens so the club has the opportunity to asses demand etc.
It's not about not thinking too big, it's about not getting ahead of ourselves. I'd love us to think bloody massive, starting with the football. Chuck shedloads of money at that first, make progress on the field, that's the biggest single thing that'll bring the crowds in. Everything follows from there. There's nothing Doug Ellis about that whatsoever.
Quote from: Chinchilla Bathhouse on June 23, 2019, 11:07:58 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on June 23, 2019, 10:34:27 PMQuote from: Chinchilla Bathhouse on June 23, 2019, 10:25:28 PMIt's not about not thinking too big, it's about not getting ahead of ourselves. I'd love us to think bloody massive, starting with the football. Chuck shedloads of money at that first, make progress on the field, that's the biggest single thing that'll bring the crowds in. Everything follows from there. There's nothing Doug Ellis about that whatsoever.The crowds are being brought in with record ST sales, and it will be the best part of at least a year before it happens so the club has the opportunity to asses demand etc.That's great, I'm not in the market for a season ticket so didn't know they were in record demand. Hopefully this is the start of something big then, on and off the field.There is record demand and daft demand. We have sold ST's out and have thousands on a waiting list. Finish even mid table and you have a compelling argument to ramp up capacity. Call it the Wolves factor. They are that excited now that AT LEAST, 15 people might turn up....
Quote from: cheltenhamlion on June 24, 2019, 10:06:38 AMQuote from: Chinchilla Bathhouse on June 23, 2019, 11:07:58 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on June 23, 2019, 10:34:27 PMQuote from: Chinchilla Bathhouse on June 23, 2019, 10:25:28 PMIt's not about not thinking too big, it's about not getting ahead of ourselves. I'd love us to think bloody massive, starting with the football. Chuck shedloads of money at that first, make progress on the field, that's the biggest single thing that'll bring the crowds in. Everything follows from there. There's nothing Doug Ellis about that whatsoever.The crowds are being brought in with record ST sales, and it will be the best part of at least a year before it happens so the club has the opportunity to asses demand etc.That's great, I'm not in the market for a season ticket so didn't know they were in record demand. Hopefully this is the start of something big then, on and off the field.There is record demand and daft demand. We have sold ST's out and have thousands on a waiting list. Finish even mid table and you have a compelling argument to ramp up capacity. Call it the Wolves factor. They are that excited now that AT LEAST, 15 people might turn up....Now that IS daft. 15? You'll be telling me next that they're going to take the hazard tape down and reopen that condemned stand behind the goal...
Quote from: Chinchilla Bathhouse on June 24, 2019, 10:26:53 AMQuote from: cheltenhamlion on June 24, 2019, 10:06:38 AMQuote from: Chinchilla Bathhouse on June 23, 2019, 11:07:58 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on June 23, 2019, 10:34:27 PMQuote from: Chinchilla Bathhouse on June 23, 2019, 10:25:28 PMIt's not about not thinking too big, it's about not getting ahead of ourselves. I'd love us to think bloody massive, starting with the football. Chuck shedloads of money at that first, make progress on the field, that's the biggest single thing that'll bring the crowds in. Everything follows from there. There's nothing Doug Ellis about that whatsoever.The crowds are being brought in with record ST sales, and it will be the best part of at least a year before it happens so the club has the opportunity to asses demand etc.That's great, I'm not in the market for a season ticket so didn't know they were in record demand. Hopefully this is the start of something big then, on and off the field.There is record demand and daft demand. We have sold ST's out and have thousands on a waiting list. Finish even mid table and you have a compelling argument to ramp up capacity. Call it the Wolves factor. They are that excited now that AT LEAST, 15 people might turn up....Now that IS daft. 15? You'll be telling me next that they're going to take the hazard tape down and reopen that condemned stand behind the goal...I thought that Black and Yellow hazard tape was celebratory bunting.
Unless i've totally misread things, we don't have 30,000 season ticket holders and a waiting list. We have set a 30k limit on them and some folks are currently on a waiting list for one of those.Fast forward a year or two and if we're piddling about in the lower reaches of the PL or even midtable and you can bet your arse they wont all still be there. And if we are showing some form towards the top six we still wouldn't shift more than 35k season tickets IMHOI just don't know why people think we would. Absolutely nothing has shown that in recent history (four decades or so)
Why 3 seasons? Why not 5? 2? 10?Last season there was 16,000 match day tickets available for home support per game and as has been the case in every season before, no fundamental need for a season ticket, as supply exists in good quantities.Now there are 8,000, including players tickets, Lion Clubs, competition winners and the like. Less than 150,000 available match tickets over the season as opposed to 304,000.That hugely increases the need for a season ticket, increases demand that for the first time perhaps ever, Villa Park will not meet.What would any big company do with their product? Twiddle their thumbs and see how it goes apparently, while making sure there's only 2 children in the shop at any given time.
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on June 23, 2019, 10:32:45 PMPretty sure the North holds just over 7k, it shouldn't be too difficult to build a new stand there that could hold say 13k (same as the Holte but with boxes and corporate included in that capacity) taking us to approx 48k. And if we're still selling out then look at Witton Lane if a further increase is needed, which will probably take a long time to sort anyway with the road and houses. I just don't see the point in spending a shitload load of money to add just a couple of K, and then find it's still not enough. Either do the North properly or leave it as it is (capacity wise).Good luck in almost doubling capacity with the land we have available, bearing in mind that you'll need more car parking and room for improved shop facilities.
Pretty sure the North holds just over 7k, it shouldn't be too difficult to build a new stand there that could hold say 13k (same as the Holte but with boxes and corporate included in that capacity) taking us to approx 48k. And if we're still selling out then look at Witton Lane if a further increase is needed, which will probably take a long time to sort anyway with the road and houses. I just don't see the point in spending a shitload load of money to add just a couple of K, and then find it's still not enough. Either do the North properly or leave it as it is (capacity wise).
Quote from: dave.woodhall on June 23, 2019, 10:37:53 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on June 23, 2019, 10:32:45 PMPretty sure the North holds just over 7k, it shouldn't be too difficult to build a new stand there that could hold say 13k (same as the Holte but with boxes and corporate included in that capacity) taking us to approx 48k. And if we're still selling out then look at Witton Lane if a further increase is needed, which will probably take a long time to sort anyway with the road and houses. I just don't see the point in spending a shitload load of money to add just a couple of K, and then find it's still not enough. Either do the North properly or leave it as it is (capacity wise).Good luck in almost doubling capacity with the land we have available, bearing in mind that you'll need more car parking and room for improved shop facilities. I'd argue the current layout of the area behind the North Stand is relatively inefficient, both with the layout of the car park, and the position of the academy building, ticket office and shop.Filling in the corners would easily add another 1,000 seats. The quality of any upgrade to the North Stand is probably more important than any increase in capacity as well. Bring the stadium up to around 45k. Big challenge then in revamping Witton Lane to then bring the capacity up further, depending on land constraints with the road and land on the other side.
Quote from: hipkiss92 on June 24, 2019, 05:09:01 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on June 23, 2019, 10:37:53 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on June 23, 2019, 10:32:45 PMPretty sure the North holds just over 7k, it shouldn't be too difficult to build a new stand there that could hold say 13k (same as the Holte but with boxes and corporate included in that capacity) taking us to approx 48k. And if we're still selling out then look at Witton Lane if a further increase is needed, which will probably take a long time to sort anyway with the road and houses. I just don't see the point in spending a shitload load of money to add just a couple of K, and then find it's still not enough. Either do the North properly or leave it as it is (capacity wise).Good luck in almost doubling capacity with the land we have available, bearing in mind that you'll need more car parking and room for improved shop facilities. I'd argue the current layout of the area behind the North Stand is relatively inefficient, both with the layout of the car park, and the position of the academy building, ticket office and shop.Filling in the corners would easily add another 1,000 seats. The quality of any upgrade to the North Stand is probably more important than any increase in capacity as well. Bring the stadium up to around 45k. Big challenge then in revamping Witton Lane to then bring the capacity up further, depending on land constraints with the road and land on the other side.Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo