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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: bjfoster on May 29, 2019, 01:02:27 PM
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I am looking to get a Season Ticket next season for the first time. Does anyone think there will be a sudden surge in demand now that we are back where we belong?
They are currently off sale and according to Twitter they will announce shortly(?) when they go back on sale, prices, etc. You would think whilst people have the feel-good factor they would want to make the most of it and shift as many as they can,
Does anyone have any further information?
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Waiting to see if they can up the price now for the Prem!!
Weren't they on offer at frozen prices for a while?
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Waiting to see if they can up the price now for the Prem!!
Weren't they on offer at frozen prices for a while?
Yeah, I renewed at the frozen price and now I'm being ripped off because the per-game price has gone up*
* ;)
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Interesting to see if they open the Upper Trinity permanently next season and sell season tickets up there again
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Interesting to see if they open the Upper Trinity permanently next season and sell season tickets up there again
I'd be flabbergasted if they didn't.
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I'd be surprised if we dont average 40,000 next season and fully expect us to sell more season tickets than we have before.
The record is only 26,000 and we've sold 20,000 odd prior to the Play Offs.
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I'm off to university in September so I won't be renewing my season ticket. Will it be easier for me to buy tickets because I've been regularly for the last 2 seasons, or does buying history get refreshed?
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Last weekend has rekindled my passion for the club - hopefully this is the start of an upturn of fortunes and a boost for my health too
Me and Junior intend to buy season tickets for the first time since our relegation ( the absence being due to a culmination of ill health and being unable to work, rather than fickleness, although the shit football didn't help)
Anyone any idea when they will be on sale?
I've sent an e-mail to the club and await a response
Sunday gave me a buzz that I've not experienced for a long time - long may it continue
UTV
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I'm off to university in September so I won't be renewing my season ticket. Will it be easier for me to buy tickets because I've been regularly for the last 2 seasons, or does buying history get refreshed?
Initially it will work but after about 10 games current season's history kicks in. Enjoy Uni by the way.
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Waiting to see if they can up the price now for the Prem!!
Weren't they on offer at frozen prices for a while?
Yeah, I renewed at the frozen price and now I'm being ripped off because the per-game price has gone up*
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Yup we have been cheated out of 4 games :(
But delighted and hope the new price is double the amount we paid (not really)
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I'm off to university in September so I won't be renewing my season ticket. Will it be easier for me to buy tickets because I've been regularly for the last 2 seasons, or does buying history get refreshed?
Initially it will work but after about 10 games current season's history kicks in. Enjoy Uni by the way.
Thanks I'm really looking forward to it. I might try and build up a history in August and September so I have a chance at the big away matches
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I'm off to university in September so I won't be renewing my season ticket. Will it be easier for me to buy tickets because I've been regularly for the last 2 seasons, or does buying history get refreshed?
Initially it will work but after about 10 games current season's history kicks in. Enjoy Uni by the way.
Thanks I'm really looking forward to it. I might try and build up a history in August and September so I have a chance at the big away matches
Think you'll be fine but You could always buy a claret membership at start of season, depending on how worried you are about getting tickets. Not sure how much that will help for aways though.
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Aways will be tough this coming season I reckon - everyone wanting to go to the big grounds again and probably smaller allocations than we get at a lot of grounds in the Championship.
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Waiting to see if they can up the price now for the Prem!!
Weren't they on offer at frozen prices for a while?
Well I'm looking at getting one in either K3 or K4 which was about £550 before they took them off sale. Can't imagine they'd go up more than 10% tho (hopefully)?
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When do they go back on sale?
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When I phoned the ticket office they said an update about season tickets would be made in the next few days.I renewed under the early bird scheme anyway but now want to join the away scheme too - anyone know how that will operate next season? Thanks for any information.
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Be interesting to see how much prices go up. I paid the early bird for L3 at £500, which would have worked out around £21.75 per game, versus £27 single match tickets. That £500 now equates to around £26.30 per game, but I can't see them taking match tickets up an extra £5 to £32 to balance it.
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Aways will be tough this coming season I reckon - everyone wanting to go to the big grounds again and probably smaller allocations than we get at a lot of grounds in the Championship.
Yes, I doubt if there will be any large allocations like at Blackburn, Preston, Wigan etc. Even at grounds like the Taxpayers Stadium, the allocation will be smaller as they have to cater for football tourism as well.
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I'd be surprised if we dont average 40,000 next season and fully expect us to sell more season tickets than we have before.
The record is only 26,000 and we've sold 20,000 odd prior to the Play Offs.
When you look at those numbers it not hard to see why our idiotic neighbours get into such a frenzied hatred.
My signature was a direct quote from their previous owner.
And they genuinely think they are rivals.
Fools
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I think it will go only one way. My thoughts on realistic expectations are to build something sustainable and part of that is an increase in capacity.
If we can get de facto home sell outs for several games in a row and average 36,000 in the 2nd tier, then we can sell out every week.
1) A better quality of football on offer from us
2) Better quality of players for us
3) More glamorous and higher quality opposition
4) £30 capped away prices effectively guarantees 2800 away every home game, something we've seen precious little at Villa Park.
5) The feeling that we're going somewhere.
All five factors should means we can add two or three thousand extra season tickets on, which in turn reduces the walk ups availability. That decreases the time it takes to sell out and all of a sudden having a season ticket becomes a necessity.
I really do think, if we invest well this summer and have a good season of consolidation, then for at least the latter half of 2020/21 we will see crowds at Villa Park above 50,000.
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I'm off to university in September so I won't be renewing my season ticket. Will it be easier for me to buy tickets because I've been regularly for the last 2 seasons, or does buying history get refreshed?
sort of in the same boat as have season tickets with my son and he’s off to uni too. Club says they are restarting the official resale site (with sales prices capped to stop speculators) so maybe looking to renew his anyway and offload those he can’t attend. No ‘official ‘ announcement as yet though so maybe contact them to confirm if you go our route?
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I missed the early bird renewal offer. I tried to renew my ST yesterday but was told they're still considering prices. Still no announcement on this??
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I really do think, if we invest well this summer and have a good season of consolidation, then for at least the latter half of 2020/21 we will see crowds at Villa Park above 50,000.
That would be nice but where do we seat them? Can't see anything changing ground wise in that time scale.
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Wonder if the Upper Trinity will be open for all games now
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Wonder if the Upper Trinity will be open for all games now
I would think so.
Be great if we could get to 28k season tickets. Would imagine we could be close to a 40k average with that.
Then redevelopment of the North Stand looks realistic again. I'd love us to get back up there with one of the bigger grounds in the country. Too many clubs have leapfrogged us over the past few years.
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Spurs have raised the bar. Edens will no doubt have a big input in the facilities upgrades.
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The North Stand redevelopment/replacement is long overdue, but lets get back to cementing our place back in the Premier League and filling Villa Park every week first.
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The North Stand redevelopment/replacement is long overdue, but lets get back to cementing our place back in the Premier League and filling Villa Park every week first.
always this
team and performances come first
You look at the stadium when we have a big waiting list for tickets
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I really do think, if we invest well this summer and have a good season of consolidation, then for at least the latter half of 2020/21 we will see crowds at Villa Park above 50,000.
I'll take that bet!
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Only downside of returning to the Premier for me will be away games and trying to get a ticket will be almost impossible .I had to go in the home end at places like Blackburn,Preston and Wigan and that was despite large allocations .Trying to get a ticket for my local venues ,Liverpool,Everton ,Man Utd ,Man City and Burnley will be almost impossible
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I always found it much easier to get away tickets in the Prem than the Championship.
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The North Stand redevelopment/replacement is long overdue, but lets get back to cementing our place back in the Premier League and filling Villa Park every week first.
always this
team and performances come first
You look at the stadium when we have a big waiting list for tickets
It’s ugly though.
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I always found it much easier to get away tickets in the Prem than the Championship.
Agree with that but maybe because we were rubbish in the prem
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Yep. It will be very hard next season to get as many tickets as we did this. PL games are for the most part very well attended now and the away allocation with the exception of some of the bigger stadiums will be quite a bit more limited I'd have thought. We'll take our full allocation everywhere.
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Does the club put a limit on ST quantities, to leave some match day availability ?
Wonder if upper trinity will be open every game ?
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Does the club put a limit on ST quantities, to leave some match day availability ?
Wonder if upper trinity will be open every game ?
There were not many left at the early bird ending,so I can not see how they will not open the 3rd tier.
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We'll get 40k no problem for first 4-5 home games. Real feelgood factor early on and we'll likely play at least one of the top 6 in that spell (wouldn't it be nice to get Arsenal or Man. United early and try to end that home hoodoo v them?) Wolves will also be 40k.
Think it will then drop off a bit, the usual, winter, Monday night kick offs and we're annually rubbish in December/January.
Good point on the away allocations, anyone know which club gives out the biggest allocation nowadays? In seasons gone by who could always rely on one of Wigan, Blackburn and Bolton to give away their big ends behind the goal if demand was there. Fulham with the neutral stand have gone down aswell.
Just seems it will be 3k for pretty much all grounds if that.
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I think we will average close to 40 all season. Heck we averaged 33 in the year we went down.
There seems to be a real appreciation by fans of the journey to get back to the PL. The malaise of the Lerner years and ultimate relegation took a toll on everyone. Dean Smith has brought back the family feeling of this club. Tickets will be much harder to come by which in truth is a wonderful thing.
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Agree, we'll be touching 40k every game next season.
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I'd be surprised if we dont average 40,000 next season and fully expect us to sell more season tickets than we have before.
The record is only 26,000 and we've sold 20,000 odd prior to the Play Offs.
When you look at those numbers it not hard to see why our idiotic neighbours get into such a frenzied hatred.
My signature was a direct quote from their previous owner.
And they genuinely think they are rivals.
Fools
If we had a ground the size of their dump, we would fill it for every match. How they can claim to be the 'real' Birmingham Club when they sell less tickets than Everton, who are the smaller of two teams in a smaller city is beyond me.
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I'm assuming the delay in any announcement is due mainly to the club wrestling with a decision of whether or not to let me have my old seat back upstairs for little or no extra cash as reward for my continued loyalty after being booted out three years ago.
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I'm assuming the delay in any announcement is due mainly to the club wrestling with a decision of whether or not to let me have my old seat back upstairs for little or no extra cash as reward for my continued loyalty after being booted out three years ago.
...and mine
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Yep. It will be very hard next season to get as many tickets as we did this. PL games are for the most part very well attended now and the away allocation with the exception of some of the bigger stadiums will be quite a bit more limited I'd have thought. We'll take our full allocation everywhere.
PL teams have to offer 3000 I think, whereas the Championship minimum was only2000. We reduced our allocation to visiting fans in the championship. I suspect we’ll have to open the corner section agat.
Also, many away grounds in the Championship only give you the 2000 minimum. For every Preston or Wigan’s, there was an Ipswich or a millwall.
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Yep. It will be very hard next season to get as many tickets as we did this. PL games are for the most part very well attended now and the away allocation with the exception of some of the bigger stadiums will be quite a bit more limited I'd have thought. We'll take our full allocation everywhere.
PL teams have to offer 3000 I think, whereas the Championship minimum was only2000. We reduced our allocation to visiting fans in the championship. I suspect we’ll have to open the corner section agat.
Also, many away grounds in the Championship only give you the 2000 minimum. For every Preston or Wigan’s, there was an Ipswich or a millwall.
I thought it was down to each club’s discretion how many they offer. It’s certainly not as high as 3k, we only give 2,700 (?) Bournemouth only hold just over 10k, so that would mean almost a third of their stadium would be away fans.
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Yep. It will be very hard next season to get as many tickets as we did this. PL games are for the most part very well attended now and the away allocation with the exception of some of the bigger stadiums will be quite a bit more limited I'd have thought. We'll take our full allocation everywhere.
PL teams have to offer 3000 I think, whereas the Championship minimum was only2000. We reduced our allocation to visiting fans in the championship. I suspect we’ll have to open the corner section agat.
Also, many away grounds in the Championship only give you the 2000 minimum. For every Preston or Wigan’s, there was an Ipswich or a millwall.
I thought it was down to each club’s discretion how many they offer. It’s certainly not as high as 3k, we only give 2,700 (?) Bournemouth only hold just over 10k, so that would mean almost a third of their stadium would be away fans.
It's 10% or 3,000, whichever is the smaller, unless like us, segregation wouldn't be possible.
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Yep. It will be very hard next season to get as many tickets as we did this. PL games are for the most part very well attended now and the away allocation with the exception of some of the bigger stadiums will be quite a bit more limited I'd have thought. We'll take our full allocation everywhere.
PL teams have to offer 3000 I think, whereas the Championship minimum was only2000. We reduced our allocation to visiting fans in the championship. I suspect we’ll have to open the corner section agat.
Also, many away grounds in the Championship only give you the 2000 minimum. For every Preston or Wigan’s, there was an Ipswich or a millwall.
I thought it was down to each club’s discretion how many they offer. It’s certainly not as high as 3k, we only give 2,700 (?) Bournemouth only hold just over 10k, so that would mean almost a third of their stadium would be away fans.
No - It’s 3000 for most grounds and only less for the smaller grounds like Bournemouth.
We gave 2700 max in the championship but will be required to give a few more next season
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Must be 500 seats in that corner between North and Witton.
Part of the reason why our capacity crowds this season weren't going over 42k.
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Premier League rules dictate that the allocation of away tickets should be: "3,000 tickets or, if the capacity of the home club's stadium is less than 30,000, such number of tickets as is equal to 10 per cent."
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We certainly aren’t taking 5/6000 or whatever we’ve done this season to some places. Tickets will be at a premium home and away for our brilliant supporters.
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I think a few clubs have reduced away allocations since the maximum £30 rule came in, as they would rather fleece more home fans at full price.
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I think a few clubs have reduced away allocations since the maximum £30 rule came in, as they would rather fleece more home fans at full price.
Fleece the flock
Don't givva fock
We need the wedge
So suck my (can't think of a word that rhymes - school's out for summer)
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Gate money is peanuts these days - If home teams can fill areas with their own fans and still comply with the 3000 minimum rule then they are bound to do so, as did Cardiff last season.
Even many teams in the Championship would prefer to have empty seats, rather than give the visiting team more fans.
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Aways will be tough this coming season I reckon - everyone wanting to go to the big grounds again and probably smaller allocations than we get at a lot of grounds in the Championship.
There’s only one big ground and your season ticket will get you in🤪
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I think a few clubs have reduced away allocations since the maximum £30 rule came in, as they would rather fleece more home fans at full price.
Another thing I forgot about. That rule came in the season we went down.
At least if we do get a thrashing at Man. City people at least won't be paying 40 + quid to witness it. Same for Chelsea.
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Fleece the flock
Don't givva fock
We need the wedge
So suck my (can't think of a word that rhymes - school's out for summer)
cutting-edge
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Gate money is peanuts these days -
"Big" clubs continue to rake in money from gate receipts - Man United made £112m in 2017, Liverpool £73m, Man City £52m........all the way down to Bournemouth's £6m.
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Gate money is peanuts these days -
"Big" clubs continue to rake in money from gate receipts - Man United made £112m in 2017, Liverpool £73m, Man City £52m........all the way down to Bournemouth's £6m.
Yes, Bournemouth's replica Bescot Stadium! 11,000 capacity which is smaller than the Holte End's capacity!
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Gate money is peanuts these days -
"Big" clubs continue to rake in money from gate receipts - Man United made £112m in 2017, Liverpool £73m, Man City £52m........all the way down to Bournemouth's £6m.
That would have to include hospitality. Unless the admission for home fans is approaching £100
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Gate money is peanuts these days -
"Big" clubs continue to rake in money from gate receipts - Man United made £112m in 2017, Liverpool £73m, Man City £52m........all the way down to Bournemouth's £6m.
That would have to include hospitality. Unless the admission for home fans is approaching £100
Yes - money made by the clubs from matchday revenue. And at £17.50 for fish and chips at the Emirates, I'm surprised Arsenal aren't top of the league. Either way, money from paying matchday "customers" is still significant.
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Average punter gate receipts are around 10% of Premier League club revenue apparently.
I did think Arsenal had the highest revenue in terms of hospitality - as an example they have one box which costs £50k per match... and that's before you've had a drink or anything to eat...
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Average punter gate receipts are around 10% of Premier League club revenue apparently.
I did think Arsenal had the highest revenue in terms of hospitality - as an example they have one box which costs £50k per match... and that's before you've had a drink or anything to eat...
I would imagine that at 50k a match it includes anything you drink and eat?
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Gate money is peanuts these days -
"Big" clubs continue to rake in money from gate receipts - Man United made £112m in 2017, Liverpool £73m, Man City £52m........all the way down to Bournemouth's £6m.
That would have to include hospitality. Unless the admission for home fans is approaching £100
Yes - money made by the clubs from matchday revenue. And at £17.50 for fish and chips at the Emirates, I'm surprised Arsenal aren't top of the league. Either way, money from paying matchday "customers" is still significant.
is that true then £17.50 for fish and chips at Arsenal
is that just basic f&c in a carry away plastic tray or something you get with a sit down meal in hospitality
I’m intrigued to know
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Gate money is peanuts these days -
"Big" clubs continue to rake in money from gate receipts - Man United made £112m in 2017, Liverpool £73m, Man City £52m........all the way down to Bournemouth's £6m.
That would have to include hospitality. Unless the admission for home fans is approaching £100
Yes - money made by the clubs from matchday revenue. And at £17.50 for fish and chips at the Emirates, I'm surprised Arsenal aren't top of the league. Either way, money from paying matchday "customers" is still significant.
is that true then £17.50 for fish and chips at Arsenal
is that just basic f&c in a carry away plastic tray or something you get with a sit down meal in hospitality
I’m intrigued to know
I'm also flabbergasted if that's true. I thought £6 for a pint of Star in the Villa fanzone before the play off final was London-pricing gone silly but £17.50 for fish & chips?! Jesus wept.
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Average punter gate receipts are around 10% of Premier League club revenue apparently.
I did think Arsenal had the highest revenue in terms of hospitality - as an example they have one box which costs £50k per match... and that's before you've had a drink or anything to eat...
I would imagine that at 50k a match it includes anything you drink and eat?
Nope - and it's a buffet too!
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I remember about 5 or 6 year back outside White Hart Lane getting a greasy burger and bottle of pop each for me and the little un, £20! When I asked if I could pay by monthly installments I must have missed the famous cheeky chirpy cockney sense of humour.
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A pint of lager in the London Stadium at the weekend was £6.50 (before you say it, no I wasn't there watching Muse, I'd rather set fire to my head). Captive event prices are spiralling, I only paid £6 for the first time at the airport last year.
Football isn't far behind. When will we see the first £7 pint?
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Fish & Chips at Wembley last Monday was £9.20, i thought that was steep and it grieved me to pay it considering its less than £5 from my local chippy for Fish twice the size and double the amount of Chips.
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Fish & Chips at Wembley last Monday was £9.20, i thought that was steep and it grieved me to pay it considering its less than £5 from my local chippy for Fish twice the size and double the amount of Chips.
That’ll learn you to forget your marmite sarny.
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They're taking their time about this. Has anyone heard owt?
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They must be thinking about opening the 3rd tier to Season tickets.
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Lads quick question my mate has renewed his season ticket but he is no longer able to attend (taken a job in bonnie Scotland) I am happy to take it off his hands at the price he paid but would it be possible to get details changed without paying the current price? I know it’s slughtlg off topic.
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Lads quick question my mate has renewed his season ticket but he is no longer able to attend (taken a job in bonnie Scotland) I am happy to take it off his hands at the price he paid but would it be possible to get details changed without paying the current price? I know it’s slughtlg off topic.
My guess would be no - but there is nothing to stop him changing his address to yours instead of his and you simply using it all season!
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Cheers Amfy. Will start with that but hoping to get the name changed over as well so I can then renew it myself next season.
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Lads quick question my mate has renewed his season ticket but he is no longer able to attend (taken a job in bonnie Scotland) I am happy to take it off his hands at the price he paid but would it be possible to get details changed without paying the current price? I know it’s slughtlg off topic.
You could always ask the ticket office ...
... you wouldn't need to give names or anything at this stage
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How much would eg a lower Holte* ST be likely to be, eg how much was last year / early bird / guessed increase? Daft to dream it and getting grief for the idea but feeling necessary.
*how does it work, do they sell you an ST wherever they have a gap, but put a ceiling on how many STs are sold?
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How much would eg a lower Holte* ST be likely to be, eg how much was last year / early bird / guessed increase? Daft to dream it and getting grief for the idea but feeling necessary.
*how does it work, do they sell you an ST wherever they have a gap, but put a ceiling on how many STs are sold?
When they go back on sale which will be pretty soon they will give the existing season ticket holders (who didn't renew on the early bird deal) a chance to renew until then you can only buy "any gaps" that they have....
No idea on prices, no limits on season tickets...….
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How much would eg a lower Holte* ST be likely to be, eg how much was last year / early bird / guessed increase? Daft to dream it and getting grief for the idea but feeling necessary.
*how does it work, do they sell you an ST wherever they have a gap, but put a ceiling on how many STs are sold?
Anyone know what our limit for ST was or is going to be ?
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30,000 ish,its 75% of capacity.It would be good if we sell that many !
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Just got my credit card bill, £29.50 for 5 halves of Pissweiser at Wembley. I’d got in the card only queue and didn’t realise until I got near to the front. As did the bloke in front of me who didn’t have a credit card. As we’d just scored the first goal he got a free beer from me and I didn’t even look at the prices I was that giddy!
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30,000 ish,its 75% of capacity.It would be good if we sell that many !
Is that some sort of rule?
Is there anything to stop them selling the whole ground less the away section?
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30,000 ish,its 75% of capacity.It would be good if we sell that many !
Is that some sort of rule?
Is there anything to stop them selling the whole ground less the away section?
They have to keep some for general sale/for sale by number of games attended but didn’t know how difficult it’s going to be to get odd games tickets
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30,000 ish,its 75% of capacity.It would be good if we sell that many !
Is that some sort of rule?
Is there anything to stop them selling the whole ground less the away section?
They have to keep some for general sale/for sale by number of games attended but didn’t know how difficult it’s going to be to get odd games tickets
Hopefully the club will get a face-value resale system for STs in place before the start of the season
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i would be surprised if we did sell 30,000 for me the club have missed out on a lot of fans, who may have brought one after the euphoria of winning the play off final
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i would be surprised if we did sell 30,000 for me the club have missed out on a lot of fans, who may have brought one after the euphoria of winning the play off final
That's a really good point!
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I can’t believe they weren’t on sale, the day after the play off final!. Surely it wouldn’t have been difficult to have two sets of prices ready, for whichever division we were in?
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I can’t believe they weren’t on sale, the day after the play off final!. Surely it wouldn’t have been difficult to have two sets of prices ready, for whichever division we were in?
This is totally what I expected. I would have at the very least expected them to be back on sale by the following Monday.
Now we are fast running into the time where people have to weigh their season ticket spend against their holiday spending money.
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It's ridiculous to be honest. Does any other club make it this hard for punters who actually want to part with money to do so?
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i would be surprised if we did sell 30,000 for me the club have missed out on a lot of fans, who may have brought one after the euphoria of winning the play off final
That's a really good point!
Indeed.
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Funk knows what's going on. I'm not 100% certain, but I think I recall something from when they went on original Early Bird sale, that this weekend was meant to be Relocation Day.
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Go onto the official site
press tickets
and the play off final still comes up, that was two weeks ago ffs
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Relocation day is usually about now which is partially why I thought they’d have been on sale to existing season ticket holders by now.
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My 4 reasons for the delay, in no particular order:
Decision on permanently reinstating the UT;
Issues around a resale partner;
Moving the away fans;
Knocking down the North Stand immediately.
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There's no decision to make about the UT. It was always open when we were last in the Prem and we were utterly abject then.
Resale partner? Worry about that after we've sold some season tickets.
Away fans - again, no decision to make as they're already where they were when we were last in the Prem.
And the North Stand won't be flattened this Summer, there's not enough time. If we do well this season I can see them announcing plans to rebuild it over Summer 2021.
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And more often than not it was virtually deserted in the UT, not that I think they won't open it.
It can't be away fans as we've already sold ST to our fans in the Lower North which is the only place we'd move them to. And I don't see us doing that anyway.
Agree with the others.
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Whatever the long-term plan is for where we call "home", at some point the North Stand will be addressed, and season ticket holders in there will need to be re-homed, at best temporarily if not for an entire season. Now's arguably the ideal time to do it, why wait until we're attracting bigger crowds to then reduce capacity by 7k?
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If the North Stand is demolished at the end of next season, for example, I would think a lower tier of 5-7 thousand seats could be in place for the beginning of the following season. Further seats/tiers could be added as the season continues.
And renamed, of course....
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VP will be rocking in August, silly to close one end which will inevitably affect things.
Hopefully comfortable mid table and stuff will happen next summer so we have nice 50k stadium ready for the champions league in 21/22....
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Not many people in construction on this site, are there?
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You don't need to be to know that having recently sold thousands of season tickets for the North that we're not suddenly going to go, hold on, I have a cunning plan.
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Not many people in construction on this site, are there?
I happen to construct some of the most devastating ad campaigns this side of Farmers Weekly.
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I renewed my middle Trinity season ticket in the early bird period on the understanding that I could relocate back to the Upper Trinity if we were promoted. The tickets section of the website doesn't seem to have been updated since before the play off final.
They don't seem to be in any rush, unless anybody else has seen anything different?
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You don't need to be to know that having recently sold thousands of season tickets for the North that we're not suddenly going to go, hold on, I have a cunning plan.
But do we have any actual numbers on how the early bird sales went, especially given the finance debacle? Other than those, we've sold none since. There was enough moaning on here about that sale being too early, bearing in mind that at the time I'd say the concensus was that we probably wouldn't make the play-offs. I'll bet there's fewer than there were STHs in A3/4/5/6 when we got told to bugger off elsewhere.
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Not many people in construction on this site, are there?
:D
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My 4 reasons for the delay, in no particular order:
Decision on permanently reinstating the UT;
Issues around a resale partner;
Moving the away fans;
Knocking down the North Stand immediately.
The resale function is being handled by the club now. It's already been tested, and the option is already live on the ST page of fan accounts.
You'll get your money back (£season ticket price/19) and the club will resell at full price – that profit covers the cost.
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Season tickets are now on Sale
only for Ladies football so far though
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£50 for a ladies season ticket.....i wish the mens was that price.
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Season tickets are now on Sale
only for Ladies football so far though
So that's what they mean by early birds?
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I see Norwich have 22,000 season ticket holders. That's quite impressive for a city of about 250,000 with nothing much around them. How many do the 'real' Birmingham team get at their Million Shattered Dreams stadium?
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I see Norwich have 22,000 season ticket holders. That's quite impressive for a city of about 250,000 with nothing much around them. How many do the 'real' Birmingham team get at their Million Shattered Dreams stadium?
Well you get a free kids season ticket with every full paying adult one so whatever it’s inflated. Last season they had only sold 5000 before the season started.
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Less than 2 months to go before the season starts and no sight or sound of season tickets being back on sale yet, I mean whats the issue? You would think they would want to give people as much time as possible to buy.
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So we've just won the biggest game in yonks (certainly most profitable), broken our transfer record, everyone is buzzing...but no one can buy a season ticket or a new shirt. I think this is what Purslow meant when he said we are a year ahead of schedule...still behind our peers with the marketing it seems.
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I am absolutely willing to understand the need for the club to focus first on football issues and execute their plans to ensure Dean has all the tools to compete properly next year. But since when did any business only focus on one thing, the supporters are the lifeblood of this club, they’ve just reconnected with them in a way I haven’t seen in many a year and yet I can’t buy a couple of season tickets. I’ve got £1k burning a hole in my pocket and it’s going to go on a nicer holiday break for me and my partner in September if they don’t hurry up. If there was a plan to go up for the football side of the club what about the fans and what we need? Slightly frustrated to be honest.
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Yes there would have been alot of impulse buys the day after we went up, and there will be impulse buys for every new signing that strolls through the door, not counting the ones who have saved the money now and ready to purchase.
I just cannot understand whats taking so long what is there to decide? Surely the pricing etc. would have been decided upon months ago depending on division and would not take this long to come up with a decision and get them back online sale.
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I would think one the issues they will be considering is how much moaning they can put up with should they raise prices to PL level. My lower Holte ticket was £500 in March, if it goes upto £700, which is still reasonable for the league we’re in now, people will go mad. I wonder what will be considered acceptable? £550, £600?
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I would think one the issues they will be considering is how much moaning they can put up with should they raise prices to PL level. My lower Holte ticket was £500 in March, if it goes upto £700, which is still reasonable for the league we’re in now, people will go mad. I wonder what will be considered acceptable? £550, £600?
Delaying it this long isn't going to help though is it? It's absolutely laughable that they're not on sale yet. Like you, I'm waiting to buy, but am not going to wait around forever.
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This has just appeared on PRAVDA
Season Ticket Relocation Day will now take place on Saturday 29th June for supporters wishing to switch seats for the 2019/20 campaign.
Relocation Day is only for supporters who have already purchased a Season Ticket for the coming Premier League campaign – and want to move to newly-available seats.
Summer Season Ticket prices and on-sale dates will be confirmed soon.
Due to the short timeframe between new summer prices being released and the initial Relocation Day date – and wanting to give our Season Ticket Holders the opportunity to make an informed decision on renewing - we have moved it back two weeks from Saturday 15th June.
Our Ticket Office will be open from 9am to 4pm and fans will be able to view seats inside Villa Park from 9am until 3pm.
The deadline for reserved seats is midnight on Friday 28th June.
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So new tickets won't be on sale until July? The same month the new kit finally goes on sale? 🤣
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I can't see anything there about honouring seats previously held in Upper Trinity?
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Useless.
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So i'm assuming by that any new season tickets wont go on sale until July 1st at the earliest if current holders have got until June 29th to switch seats.
40 days before the season starts! Sorry but thats ridiculous.
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So I've just spoke to Anthony at the ticket office and he has confirmed that season tickets will be out shortly and can be renewed upto the 28th June. He suggests that we check on line daily, hope that helps
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From the club - relocation day is June 29th. Nothing about renewal which is odd and not very good. Shouldn’t renewal come before relocation?
https://twitter.com/avfcsupport/status/1139506817086738432?s=12
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Not content with making it impossible for people who want to give the club money to get a replica shirt to do so, we seem to be taking the same approach with season tickets.
Bizarre, I thought we'd left this sort of idiocy behind.
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From the club - relocation day is June 29th. Nothing about renewal which is odd and not very good. Shouldn’t renewal come before relocation?
https://twitter.com/avfcsupport/status/1139506817086738432?s=12
TV, See my post above
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Ah yes. It was interesting on the tweet though that people were asking this and nobody at the club could offer that answer.
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Ah yes. It was interesting on the tweet though that people were asking this and nobody at the club could offer that answer.
Ticket office seemed quite confident that STs would be available within he next few days
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I swear down, bro, if I have to try to watch our glorious, all-conquering football from down in the bottom corner of the Holte, I might cry.
Welease Upper Twinity.
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Due to the short timeframe between new summer prices being released and the initial Relocation Day date – and wanting to give our Season Ticket Holders the opportunity to make an informed decision on renewing - we have moved it back two weeks from Saturday 15th June.....
.....The deadline for reserved seats is midnight on Friday 28th June.
This is the bit that refers to people who want to renew that didn’t do so in the early bird window - it implies season tickets are going on sale any day now and will only be on sale to existing season ticket holders until relocation day.....it could be A LOT clearer though! I can see on Twitter that the lack of clarity is causing some consternation among those that didn’t do the ear,y bird but want to renew and think their seats are up for grabs on relocation day!
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Not content with making it impossible for people who want to give the club money to get a replica shirt to do so, we seem to be taking the same approach with season tickets.
Bizarre, I thought we'd left this sort of idiocy behind.
Sheffield United sold out of season tickets at the end of April.
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Not content with making it impossible for people who want to give the club money to get a replica shirt to do so, we seem to be taking the same approach with season tickets.
Bizarre, I thought we'd left this sort of idiocy behind.
Bizarre, when it seems that the playing side of the club is finally being run professionally, the commercial activity appears an utter shambles.
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This time last year I was being bombarded with phone calls and emails asking me if I was going to renew my ST. I haven't had any communication whatsoever since the Wembley win. I've phoned the ticket office several times to renew, but all you get is they haven't decided on ST's being on sale again. They reckon you'll have until the 28th June now to renew - it was supposed to be today! Disappointed with their stance and attitude.
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Its completely baffling, for the first time since the summer of 2010 fans are genuinly excited about the season ahead and eager to jump on board.......the clubs reaction to capitalise on this wave of support seems 'meh' at best.
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Don't know what the fuss is? Renewed my season tickets back in April :)
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When you think of all the poxy marketing bollocks they have been coming out with.
So here you have the biggest Marketing opportunity ever, the momentum on the back of the victory at Wembley.
So be “Part of the Park”
unfortunately Season Tickets are not on sale.
Dim.
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I get it's annoying, but if you want a season ticket, you'll get one and once you've decided where you want to sit, you'll be able buy it in circa 5 minutes.
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I just want to renew my seat that I've had nearly 20 years! I regretfully missed the early bird offer. Nonetheless I should be able to renew. No problem in the previous shit seasons. It's the poor communication that's annoying.
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A mate of mine was planning on buying one the day after the cup final regardless of what division we were in as he's in a position of being able to afford one for the first time in a while.
The cynic in me thinks they may go up in price a fair bit and they maybe wanted to bring in a few players before announcing them. I may be wrong though and I hope I am.
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I just want to renew my seat that I've had nearly 20 years! I regretfully missed the early bird offer. Nonetheless I should be able to renew. No problem in the previous shit seasons. It's the poor communication that's annoying.
This with bells on. I realise it’ll be a quick and easy process it’s the total lack of comms and even a timetable so you know what you need to plan for. To be fair it’s most unlike the club on the ticketing front, I’ve found it’s been one of the real positives over the last 10 years despite everything else.
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There definitely must be a reason for the delay. It's very opaque.
We have sold over 20,000 with the early renewals and it would be nice to get cracking on breaking a new record.
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There definitely must be a reason for the delay. It's very opaque.
We have sold over 20,000 with the early renewals and it would be nice to get cracking on breaking a new record.
I suppose partly the need to replace Zebra and revamping the away scheme could be factors but it doesn’t explain the absence of any updates.
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Probably.
I'm hoping that the away scheme is something along the lines of;
*minimum 15 away attendance
* automatic debit of account
* choose where you sit
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There definitely must be a reason for the delay. It's very opaque.
We have sold over 20,000 with the early renewals and it would be nice to get cracking on breaking a new record.
Agree there’s definitely a reason for it
no idea what it is but it’s most peculiar
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There definitely must be a reason for the delay. It's very opaque.
We have sold over 20,000 with the early renewals and it would be nice to get cracking on breaking a new record.
I find it very hard to believe we've sold 20k purely on early renewals
Where did you hear that?
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Probably.
I'm hoping that the away scheme is something along the lines of;
*minimum 15 away attendance
* automatic debit of account
* choose where you sit
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I doubt you'll get the last one as I imagine we don't always take on all of our allocation until we know for certain we are gonna sell it.
Choice of where you sit among the initial allocation would be fair.
It would probably be too much hassle for the club to have to wait for all away scheme members to contact them before every away game so I think the best thing would just be scheme members get a text or an email saying "you have been allocated this seat, click here to access the Villa website if you wish to change it. You have until day x to do so".
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Probably.
I'm hoping that the away scheme is something along the lines of;
*minimum 15 away attendance
* automatic debit of account
* choose where you sit
As long as current members of the away scheme are given priority to renew then I'll be happy!
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There definitely must be a reason for the delay. It's very opaque.
We have sold over 20,000 with the early renewals and it would be nice to get cracking on breaking a new record.
I find it very hard to believe we've sold 20k purely on early renewals
Where did you hear that?
It was bandied about back in April. Somebody told somebody and the like from the ticket office.
We had 23000 season ticket holders last season, which is by and large what we've had for 25 years or more. I think far from unlikely, its highly probable that we've sold such a number already.
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Probably.
I'm hoping that the away scheme is something along the lines of;
*minimum 15 away attendance
* automatic debit of account
* choose where you sit
.
I doubt you'll get the last one as I imagine we don't always take on all of our allocation until we know for certain we are gonna sell it.
Choice of where you sit among the initial allocation would be fair.
It would probably be too much hassle for the club to have to wait for all away scheme members to contact them before every away game so I think the best thing would just be scheme members get a text or an email saying "you have been allocated this seat, click here to access the Villa website if you wish to change it. You have until day x to do so".
really? Who cares where they sit at away matches? You’re generally just happy to be there, in my experience anyway.
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Ads.
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Exactly.
I like being on the end of a row.
Plus at places like Selhurst Park, I avoid a pillar. I want to be upstairs and towards the back at Stamford Bridge, I want to be in the wee front tier at St James' Park so I can wave in a friendly way to the Scottish folk below. I want to be central at the Molineux. I want to be in the Paddock at Goodison too.
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It doesn't generally bother me but it was a pisstake at QPR not being able to see the goal line. Can't think of many Premier League grounds where it would be an issue. I think maybe Everton has some pillar views but I've always had a good view when I've been there. Maybe just lucky.
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QPR is shit. You can’t see the goal from the upper tier.
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It doesn't generally bother me but it was a pisstake at QPR not being able to see the goal line. Can't think of many Premier League grounds where it would be an issue. I think maybe Everton has some pillar views but I've always had a good view when I've been there. Maybe just lucky.
Was in the bottom row at Goodison a few years back (not watching Man. United before anyone asks!!!!) and view of most of the pitch was pretty similar to the lower witton at VP, just couldn't see the corner of the pitch right by the Gladys end. Not that we did much attacking that day (3-0 defeat).
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In the scheme last season you could choose a seat. Even in The Championship they are able to put up the various away sections on line for people to choose a specific seat. The PL probably will show the view as well.
It was a bone of contention amongst my lot because when we went online seconds after we could for the Albion away leg whole sections were blocked off as sold. We assumed reserved for box holders etc.
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I know I'm only repeating what others have said but what the actual f*#! is going on?!
I get that we've got gazillionaires in charge and don't need the money but still having zero information about when season tickets are going on sale, 50 days away from the start of the season, is absolutely shambolic!
As a first attempt at a pre-season for the current custodians of the club, it's not a great start.
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Indeed, what the fuck are they playing at?
I thought these were supposed to be serious people who know how to run a club - if that's the case, why do we have this current utter shambles around people being unable to buy season tickets?
What on earth can be complicating this?
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Oh and the fact that the season tickets page of the OS is still pimping the early bird renewal window, which closed two months ago, is not massively impressive either.
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As i stated in my original message, you would think they would want to make the most of the feel-good factor around the club straight after the play-off final.
As someone who is looking at being a season ticket holder for the first time, the lack of communication is shocking.
I get that prices and things can chance following the play-off final, but you would think they would have accounted for that scenario?
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The longer the wait, the more I think there must be big news. This delay can't be simply because they can't decide on pricing, it just can't.
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They're now on sale.
Hands in your pockets. Mine in K3 is now £615, whereas I paid £535in the early bird.
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Those prices are a bit steep.
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FROM PRAVDA
Aston Villa is delighted to announce that 2019/20 Season Tickets are now back on sale.
After our promotion to the Premier League last month, supporters will now get another chance to guarantee their spot at Villa Park next term as we prepare to welcome the likes of Manchester City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Manchester United, Arsenal and Tottenham, as well as Midlands rivals, Wolverhampton Wanderers.
Click here to purchase yours now.
The Club have put together a number of affordable ways to watch Premier League football at Villa Park next season.
Adult tickets start at £370 (the equivalent of £19.50 per game) and there is also a renewed focus on families as the Club aim to attract the next generation of claret and blues.
Junior prices start from £70 for Under-14s and £97 for Under-18s, while a family package which includes two adults and two juniors sees the two juniors attend for free!
Continuing the family theme, an extra block in this part of the stadium will become a Family Area to extend family areas across all levels of the Trinity Road Stand.
Following a series of sell-outs last season in the Championship, Trinity Road Upper has been re-opened to meet the increased demand for tickets and supporters who used to have season tickets in the Trinity Upper will have the opportunity to move back to their old seats.
A deadline for that move has been set at Friday 28th June with supporters required to call the ticket office on 0333 323 1874 in order to claim their previous seat.
All other existing season ticket holders who are yet to renew have until midnight on Friday 28th June to claim their seat with relocations commencing from Saturday 29th June.
The Club will be offering a six-month payment plan via V12 which includes an arrangement fee of 5.95% that will be applied to the first payment. A breakdown of how the pricing would work is given below using a Zone 4 Adult ticket as an example:
Representative example:
If one adult season card purchased at a cash price and amount of credit of £483.00 would be repaid by 1 monthly payment of £109.24 (which includes arrangement fee of 5.95% equal to £28.74), followed by 5 monthly payments of £80.50. The rate of interest is 0% per annum; the total amount payable is £511.74 and the total charge for credit is £28.74. Representative 23.05% APR
A note to supporters that Blocks P1, P8 and M5 have been moved to Price Zone 2 to bring it in line with match tickets being sold in those areas.
Keep an eye out on the Club’s communication channels for details of Hospitality season tickets which will be on sale shortly.
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£32 a game, so circa £38 more expensive than following us away.
Nobody likes paying any more money, but oh well.
I would imagine the delay has been over V12 and the arrangement for credit.
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I think those prices are - in the context of Premier League football - reasonable.
Our most expensive season ticket is £685.
Going on last year's prices in the top flight, only Watford, Burnley, Everton, Cardiff, Wolves and Huddersfield had a cheaper most expensive ST.
If we want Premier League football and signings, we're going to have to pay for it.
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Only a 6 month finance plan? Do they want people to buy tickets or not?
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Not that I’ve got one these days I would make the following observations, most are marketing positive ;
* price per game was always going to be more pro rata due to less fixtures
* pay more to watch a more premium product... perhaps not so many victories but hoping for plenty !
* new u14 cat good
* 2 kids free with 2 adults in family area... also extended to b7 and a8 so a choice of seat from all levels of trinity good
* note that p1, p8, and m5 all been moved to different price zone... it sure wether that’s an increase or decrease?
* 6 month payment plan good with low fee useful to a lot I’d imagine ?
* upper trinity re opened so previous seat holders can relocate which will free up quite a few in other areas . Relocation day may therefore be busier. Hopefully a few more options for us mere mortals that have to cherry pick a few games after relocations but guess match day tickets increase will be hitting new heights too .
* I’d be intrigued if anyone has stats to see how many of last years ST holders renewed at early bird and from those left, how many can not afford increases for more premium product ?
I’d be interested to see a table of early bird prices to see how much increases are ?
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K3 was £545 (£535 in the Early Bird) and is now £615, so around £4 more per game.
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I paid £500 for L3, which is now £575; also works about £4 a game more.
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K3 was £545 (£535 in the Early Bird) and is now £615, so around £4 more per game.
Going from 545/23 last year to 615/19 works out just under £9na game more .....wow
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I paid £500 for L3, which is now £575; also works about £4 a game more.
Following pro rate as above thats now £8.52 a game more
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I wonder if the club has a great signing lined up today to announce to soften the blow and make things feel even more worthwhile/affordable ?
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Who checks the stuff that gets published on the website?
Why are new season tickets under a big image advertising season tickets for Aston Villa Ladies?
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So I log in to have a look and there is no availability anywhere in the stadium other than K2. Is this some sort of elaborate fucking wind up. FFS.
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Looks like Holt upper is virtually sold out
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Is there no installment plan available anymore then?
What does 'area locked' mean? We gotta wait until the relocation stuff has finished in a couple weeks before we can try for there?
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The expression “I don’t really think you’ve thought this through” springs to mind when it comes to the clubs approach to this.
Bring back Nicky Keye........
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Is there no installment plan available anymore then?
What does 'area locked' mean? We gotta wait until the relocation stuff has finished in a couple weeks before we can try for there?
6 month plan only.
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It also tells you that all of the away blocks are available, and then (obviously) won't let you put them in your basket.
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Who checks the stuff that gets published on the website?
Why are new season tickets under a big image advertising season tickets for Aston Villa Ladies?
It's very confusing. Once they've got around to sorting out the team, I hope they address the communication with fans.
The language used on the official social media accounts is mostly amateurish / embarrassing
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So I log in to have a look and there is no availability anywhere in the stadium other than K2. Is this some sort of elaborate fucking wind up. FFS.
Maybe waiting for those who want to relocate - may be more options after 29th June?
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As a care worker, who now lives 100 miles away, I have been priced out of modern day football. These prices make my eyes water in more ways than one.
I'll save up and try to get to a couple of matches this season, Wolves at home being one if I can get a ticket, but my season ticket days are unfortunately over.
Enjoy the ride this season though. I firmly believe we'll do better than most believe. 👍
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So I log in to have a look and there is no availability anywhere in the stadium other than K2. Is this some sort of elaborate fucking wind up. FFS.
Maybe waiting for those who want to relocate - may be more options after 29th June?
Seems to be okay now - google chrome made the difference
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Bring back General K !
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Yep logged out and logged back in but availability outside of the Upper Trinity will probably remain limited until after relocation day. For instance I can’t believe L3 is sold out as there were usually acres of seats available all last season for non season ticket holders. Looks like they’re holding back blocks until after relocation day when you’ll have the full choice of what’s left.
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Phones are understandably chocka. I'll have to get over there to sort it.
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I paid £500 for L3, which is now £575; also works about £4 a game more.
Following pro rate as above thats now £8.52 a game more
Its £4 as we've been promoted.
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Prices are disgraceful ....there was no reduction when we were relegated
Season ticket holders now have less than two weeks to purchase
Sometimes the club really is poor
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£32 for top flight football isnt disgraceful. I paid £30 to take my boy to the Lego Movie II, £57 to go to a gig at the Echo the other week.
We're cheaper than loads. If you missed out on the Early Bird, then you're paying £4 more per game. For that you get officials who know when the ball is out of play and Jack not to get lumped every 5 minutes.
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I paid £500 for L3, which is now £575; also works about £4 a game more.
Following pro rate as above thats now £8.52 a game more
Its £4 as we've been promoted.
I assume he means £500 for 23 games v £575 for 19.
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I paid £500 for L3, which is now £575; also works about £4 a game more.
Following pro rate as above thats now £8.52 a game more
Its £4 as we've been promoted.
I assume he means £500 for 23 games v £575 for 19.
In that case there was always a de facto price increase.
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First of all my position - I renewed early bird so should really have stayed out of this debate.
it's no surprise that the Club have landed this increase. A story of supply and demand with a lot of people wanting to return back regularly. Believe me the Championship was good, better than the premiership but only it wasn't the premiership.
I think the club could have done more to help appease the current season ticket holders who for one reason or another didn't early bird. Not everyone has ready case and the finance package was only installed late on in the early bird window (although to be fair was there early on as well).
As for the new season ticket holders one word tough. I'm not crying over you like the fans who struggled to get play off final tickets. I do understand however that not everyone would follow the Villa down a coal mine, across a field of burning grass or through dogs muck.
As for the need to increase dramatically the prices probably no need given the TV revenue and other outside sponsorship.
One thing is for sure the away scheme is not going to be a freebe.
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There’s no even vague comparison with a match by match price. Maybe this is deliberate because various offers during the season often lead to season ticket holders complaining that they haven’t saved what they expected to.
Nonetheless - Now I’ve moved up north am looking at getting to probably 11 or 12 home games which works out at about £40 a game. This feels too much as I can’t imagine the game by game price being that much where I sit - but I don’t have anything to go on to help me know whether a season ticket could be anything near decent value for me. If it was within a few ££s - e.g. over £35/game - I might go for it for the convenience of having a season ticket (& keeping my seat which I love) & someone nearer home could always go to the games I can’t make which would balance the cost out even more.
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Did anyone on here renew a Zone 1 on early bird? If you did, how much was it, if you don't mind me asking? I can't seem to find a price list from then.
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Couple of questions if anyone has any answers please.
Am I correct in thinking that as a ssn tkt holder, if I can't attend a game I can sell the ticket for that game back to the club, which they can sell on, at match day ticket prices?
Does anyone know when memberships eg cub/claret etc become available to purchase?
Thanks in anticipation of any replies
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Couple of questions if anyone has any answers please.
Am I correct in thinking that as a ssn tkt holder, if I can't attend a game I can sell the ticket for that game back to the club, which they can sell on, at match day ticket prices?
Does anyone know when memberships eg cub/claret etc become available to purchase?
Thanks in anticipation of any replies
I think you can buy Claret Membership now, and still could, even in the run up to the Play off Final. They just stopped giving preferential ticket sales to members who joined after a certain cut off date.
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Blimey I’m glad I renewed before the season ended. £75 increase, a bit steep!
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It paid to have faith!
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There’s no even vague comparison with a match by match price. Maybe this is deliberate because various offers during the season often lead to season ticket holders complaining that they haven’t saved what they expected to.
Nonetheless - Now I’ve moved up north am looking at getting to probably 11 or 12 home games which works out at about £40 a game. This feels too much as I can’t imagine the game by game price being that much where I sit - but I don’t have anything to go on to help me know whether a season ticket could be anything near decent value for me. If it was within a few ££s - e.g. over £35/game - I might go for it for the convenience of having a season ticket (& keeping my seat which I love) & someone nearer home could always go to the games I can’t make which would balance the cost out even more.
Should be easier next year, as the seat resale function will be back.
I'd been to 16 homes for the last two seasons, and worked out that a season ticket would be cheaper if I managed to re-sell 4 of the other 7 Championship games. Not sure of the maths now it's a 19 game season, but I'd imagine it will be much easier to re-sell even the likes of Brightonin the Prem compared to Luton in the Championship.
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Did anyone on here renew a Zone 1 on early bird? If you did, how much was it, if you don't mind me asking? I can't seem to find a price list from then.
Clicky for all zones (https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/02/15/season-tickets-2019-20-launch)
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Couple of questions if anyone has any answers please.
Am I correct in thinking that as a ssn tkt holder, if I can't attend a game I can sell the ticket for that game back to the club, which they can sell on, at match day ticket prices?
Does anyone know when memberships eg cub/claret etc become available to purchase?
Thanks in anticipation of any replies
Resale is happening this season, run by the club. They told Lions Club chairmen back at the start of March that it had been tested and would be deployed. That was what tipped me over the edge of committing to a season ticket.
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Exigo-cheers!
Risso-I tried buying memberships online after ur post but it wouldn't allow me to proceed to purchase. Thanks anyway.
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I actually had a call from the club today informing me that ST's are back on sale - I knew anyway from the website. I renewed there and then. The guy who called me said they sold 1,000 ST's inside 3 hours at the peak today. He said the record number sold was 28,000 in the 07/08 season under MON. I think we averaged over 40,000 crowds that season. There's a chance the ST record may go...
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The family ones look good value in the cheaper areas but as far as I can see they’re all sold out. I don’t mean the Family areas, my son’s 15 and he thinks he’s far too grown up for that.
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Did anyone on here renew a Zone 1 on early bird? If you did, how much was it, if you don't mind me asking? I can't seem to find a price list from then.
Clicky for all zones (https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/02/15/season-tickets-2019-20-launch)
Cheers, mate! Very helpful. I seem to recall paying something in the order of £640, maybe more, for the last full season in the UT, so £595 now doesn't seem too bad for what will hopefully be something that's actually entertaining this time.
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All in all very reasonable prices compared to most of the Clubs in the Premier League.
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Anyone had problems with the website?
When I click "Pay" all I get is a rotating circle and a "Please Wait" message, which stays there no matter how long I wait (up to 39 minutes in some cases). I have tried a range of devices and browsers but all give the same problem.
Any ideas to get round the problem? Phoning the Ticket Office seems impossible at the moment, so I am getting a bit desperate.
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Surely the club buy back only works it the club manage to sell your seat?
Or have they guaranteed they'll give you the money even if it's not resold?
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I actually had a call from the club today informing me that ST's are back on sale - I knew anyway from the website. I renewed there and then. The guy who called me said they sold 1,000 ST's inside 3 hours at the peak today. He said the record number sold was 28,000 in the 07/08 season under MON. I think we averaged over 40,000 crowds that season. There's a chance the ST record may go...
Sounds very promising
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Surely the club buy back only works it the club manage to sell your seat?
Or have they guaranteed they'll give you the money even if it's not resold?
Yep the way I read it you only get refunded if they sell the ticket on.
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Some suggestions that tickets have sold really well and we could have 30k+ for the first time ever.
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How could they possibly know if they've literally been on sale to new people for a day?
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Just having “please wait” and a spinning circle
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How could they possibly know if they've literally been on sale to new people for a day?
I saw someone posted something along those lines on twitter.
He had looked at the available seats figures on the stadium planner, but not taken into account that will currently show as unavailable all seats which were last year ST holders.
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First of all my position - I renewed early bird so should really have stayed out of this debate.
it's no surprise that the Club have landed this increase. A story of supply and demand with a lot of people wanting to return back regularly. Believe me the Championship was good, better than the premiership but only it wasn't the premiership.
I think the club could have done more to help appease the current season ticket holders who for one reason or another didn't early bird. Not everyone has ready case and the finance package was only installed late on in the early bird window (although to be fair was there early on as well).
As for the new season ticket holders one word tough. I'm not crying over you like the fans who struggled to get play off final tickets. I do understand however that not everyone would follow the Villa down a coal mine, across a field of burning grass or through dogs muck.
As for the need to increase dramatically the prices probably no need given the TV revenue and other outside sponsorship.
One thing is for sure the away scheme is not going to be a freebe.
Agree with all of this.
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How could they possibly know if they've literally been on sale to new people for a day?
People using the online calculator and adding two plus two and getting 35,000.
They are selling very well though.
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I must be missing something obvious but wouldn’t it make sense to have the relocation day prior to season tickets going on general release to new buyers?
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Help!!!
Trying to renew mine over the phone. I get music for about 2 minutes and then I’m cut off.
Anybody know if I can renew in person at the ticket office?
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I must be missing something obvious but wouldn’t it make sense to have the relocation day prior to season tickets going on general release to new buyers?
Yes I must admit I find that totally baffling and confusing also.
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Help!!!
Trying to renew mine over the phone. I get music for about 2 minutes and then I’m cut off.
Anybody know if I can renew in person at the ticket office?
Why don't you do it online?
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Help!!!
Trying to renew mine over the phone. I get music for about 2 minutes and then I’m cut off.
Anybody know if I can renew in person at the ticket office?
I wouldn't bother, we will lose all 19 home games.
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Help!!!
Trying to renew mine over the phone. I get music for about 2 minutes and then I’m cut off.
Anybody know if I can renew in person at the ticket office?
Why don't you do it online?
Trying that too but the renewal function doesn’t seem to be working.
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Help!!!
Trying to renew mine over the phone. I get music for about 2 minutes and then I’m cut off.
Anybody know if I can renew in person at the ticket office?
Yes as always. I did.
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We can't sell 35k season tickets can we? Aren't we limited to selling 29k as you should have 10k home tickets available for sale plus 3k away tickets?
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Why would we limit the amount of ST we can sell. Is it a league rule?
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Why would we limit the amount of ST we can sell. Is it a league rule?
I'm sure I read it unless I've imagined it. Man Utd for instance have 53k season ticket holders and a massive waiting list. They could easily sell the ground out to 73k season ticket holders but have to cap the number I'm sure.
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Couple of questions if anyone has any answers please.
Am I correct in thinking that as a ssn tkt holder, if I can't attend a game I can sell the ticket for that game back to the club, which they can sell on, at match day ticket prices?
Does anyone know when memberships eg cub/claret etc become available to purchase?
Thanks in anticipation of any replies
I think you can buy Claret Membership now, and still could, even in the run up to the Play off Final. They just stopped giving preferential ticket sales to members who joined after a certain cut off date.
When you go on the membership page everything relates to last season, looks like you can purchase but might be a bit of a risk.
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Could any one please confirm that the Holte End only has 500 season tickets left please (source from someone on Twitter). From what I was told, this would mean virtually no tickets available on a game to game basis. Is this true or complete bolx?
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Why would we limit the amount of ST we can sell. Is it a league rule?
I'm sure I read it unless I've imagined it. Man Utd for instance have 53k season ticket holders and a massive waiting list. They could easily sell the ground out to 73k season ticket holders but have to cap the number I'm sure.
They can sell as many as they want.
They probably set a limit themselves as, if they know they can get 76k every week, having 20k match ticket buyers means fewer people taking the financial saving of a ST.
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The season ticket cap, looking at other clubs, appears to be 70% to 75%.
If there are only 500 season tickets left in the Holte, then on a 70% cap, this would leave 4050 available per game.
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Couple of questions if anyone has any answers please.
Am I correct in thinking that as a ssn tkt holder, if I can't attend a game I can sell the ticket for that game back to the club, which they can sell on, at match day ticket prices?
Does anyone know when memberships eg cub/claret etc become available to purchase?
Thanks in anticipation of any replies
I think you can buy Claret Membership now, and still could, even in the run up to the Play off Final. They just stopped giving preferential ticket sales to members who joined after a certain cut off date.
When you go on the membership page everything relates to last season, looks like you can purchase but might be a bit of a risk.
I don't know what browser you're using but there's nowhere to click buy memberships under chrome or firefox, nor was there in the run up to the play-offs?
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Even taking away the potential extra cash (it's certainly not a sure thing, some seasons it's definitely been cheaper to be a pay per game fan), it'd be a really bad long-term move to fill the stadium with ST holders.
If casual fans can never get tickets, they're not going to develop much of a bond with the club, and they'll go elsewhere. We won't build the next generation of ST holders if they can never go to games.
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Could any one please confirm that the Holte End only has 500 season tickets left please (source from someone on Twitter). From what I was told, this would mean virtually no tickets available on a game to game basis. Is this true or complete bolx?
Only showing 500 left as % kept back in a block by block basis for match day sale plus there was still be loads of last seasons ST holders still on hold until window closed . These then put on sale after relocation day. Yes it’s right that % are kept for match day. Don’t think weve ever reached max ST level though but that would be amazing support .... and that’s coming from someone who can only cherry pick a few games a year which is going to make life very difficult this coming season !!
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That's why Man United get such low crowds, by having more season ticket holders than anybody else.
Or...
You reduce elasticity of supply per game, placing additional value on the season ticket to guarantee attendance. You therefore drive up demand for match by match tickets, which sell quicker as a consequence. The end result is you increase supply, not by reducing season tickets, but by building a bigger ground.
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If I were to buy a season ticket now. Could I change it on relocation day for another area that became available should I wish to do so?
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Capped at 30k
https://bit.ly/2XX0nOG
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/06/18/season-tickets-capped-after-records
Season Tickets for Aston Villa's 2019/20 Premier League campaign are set to break all records as they close in on the incredible 30,000 mark.
It is the first time in the modern era that so many Villa supporters have bought a season card guaranteeing them access to all league games in the campaign.
Since being available again on Monday, sales have soared in anticipation of our return to the top flight with more than 3,000 snapped up within the first 24-hour period.
Added to those who had already renewed – including more than 20,000 ‘Early Bird’ Season Ticket holders – the previous record of 27,709 from 2008/09 season is set to be surpassed, resulting in the decision to limit the total available to 30,000.
Chief Commercial Officer Nicola Ibbetson said: “The demand for Season Tickets has been remarkable and we thank everybody for their incredible support. We started with a record-breaking ‘Early Bird’ period of sale and the momentum has continued. This has come after an exceptional surge in matchday attendances at Villa Park last season.
“We have decided to cap the total number of Season Tickets for 2019/20 season at 30,000. It will give supporters who are unable to buy a Season Ticket for whatever reason, be it economic or logistical, an opportunity to buy matchday tickets for our league games at Villa Park.
“It will enable close to 8,000 matchday tickets to be sold to Villa fans for each home game of what promises to be a really exciting season.”
The deadline for the small number of existing Season Ticket holders who have not renewed for the new campaign to do so is midnight on Friday 28th June.
Relocation day on Saturday 29th June will be for seat relocation only. No new sales will take place.
The club has created a waiting list for new and returning supporters who did not have a Season Ticket last season.
Supporters can now register their interest by entering their details on the waiting list, which will then be categorised by order of registration on a first-come, first-served basis and subject to availability.
Those on the list will then be notified as new Season Tickets become available.
You can register by calling 0333 323 1874 or clicking here.
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If I were to buy a season ticket now. Could I change it on relocation day for another area that became available should I wish to do so?
Yes mate...........
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See, told you we'd sold 20k in ze Early Bird Paulie. *nods sagely*
Also caps the capacity at 41ish thousand.
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Are cup games included this season with the price rise?
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I was going to leave it for a few more days but tried again earlier and decided to go Upper Trinity. Thank god for that.
30,000 though, unprecedented. It’s funny to think back when I first started going down in 90/91 we averaged just over 20k. 🤷🏼♂️
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Since Villa said there will be a waiting list tonight, 1500 people have joined it already. We're back baby.
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Since Villa said there will be a waiting list tonight, 1500 people have joined it already. We're back baby.
For years it didn't matter so much if you had a season ticket. It appears that is over now. Does mean prices will keep rising though. Better news, I'll get to look at something better in a few years than the North Stand, with it's stupid upper tier that is bigger than the lower tier and narrower. Aaaaahh!
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I made the decision to leave work early today and go to ticket office. I believe I got either the last ticket in the holte end lower or the last ticket in L2. Didn’t quite catch which bit the guy said it was the last one. £485 I fell extremely lucky.
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Since Villa said there will be a waiting list tonight, 1500 people have joined it already. We're back baby.
For years it didn't matter so much if you had a season ticket. It appears that is over now. Does mean prices will keep rising though. Better news, I'll get to look at something better in a few years than the North Stand, with it's stupid upper tier that is bigger than the lower tier and narrower. Aaaaahh!
I imagine if we stay up next year, the owners will get the rebuilding plans started and possibly fill the stadium corners in. Didn't someone say the maximum capacity could be 50,000 once?
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The fan allocations for last years FA Cup final were 28,000 for each club.
We are now into the territory of a season ticket being no guarantee of a Cup Final Ticket, & without one you are almost certainly not going.
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Since Villa said there will be a waiting list tonight, 1500 people have joined it already. We're back baby.
For years it didn't matter so much if you had a season ticket. It appears that is over now. Does mean prices will keep rising though. Better news, I'll get to look at something better in a few years than the North Stand, with it's stupid upper tier that is bigger than the lower tier and narrower. Aaaaahh!
for what its worth i went on the stadium tour today with my kids and the Lady said they were doing extensive refurbishment internally to the North stand, and had plans to update the entrance frontage also
she said it didn't look like there were any short term plans to knock it down and start again any time soon because of the money being spent on it at the moment
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This'll impact on the membership schemes, I assume. My brother tried to get his kid a ST late on, after being a Cub last year, but he's had to go on the waiting list.
Damn you, Dean Smith, with your entertaining football!
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Since Villa said there will be a waiting list tonight, 1500 people have joined it already. We're back baby.
For years it didn't matter so much if you had a season ticket. It appears that is over now. Does mean prices will keep rising though. Better news, I'll get to look at something better in a few years than the North Stand, with it's stupid upper tier that is bigger than the lower tier and narrower. Aaaaahh!
This is how ground expansion starts. People start to realise they need a season ticket, rather than knowing there are 18k+ tickets available each matchday. With only 8k tickets available for our fans next season we should sell out every home game.
Mad to think we only got 27k-28k for some weeknight games in the Prem in the dark days and now we're selling more season tickets than that.
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i've been saying for years and fucking years all we needed was a manager with some balls to play football in a structured entertaining way and we would reap the benefits
all this turgid football by stealth to get us over the line nonsense, short term pain long term gain guff under Bruce was an absolute load of bollocks
think i'm the happiest i've been since Brian for a short time and Big Ron a million years ago
maybe even happier because it seems we have the whole top end package this time
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Managed to get mine yesterday as a first time season ticket holder.
Already feeling the pressure to keep it for years to come knowing now there’s going to be a big waiting list!
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I used to feel a bit embarrassed when I lived in the north west and all the Man U/Liverpool fans couldn't get tickets then there would always be empty seats at Villa Park when we were on TV. This is fantastic, even if it limits my chances of getting a ticket. If we can just stay up this year, the future really is bright.
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See, told you we'd sold 20k in ze Early Bird Paulie. *nods sagely*
Also caps the capacity at 41ish thousand.
I think capacity will hit 42.5ish K if we sell all corporate availability. (38 home 3 away 1.5 corporate).
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We haven’t sold 30k yet!
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Since Villa said there will be a waiting list tonight, 1500 people have joined it already. We're back baby.
Probably all the Blues fans jumping ship.
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What's going on with R1 in the North Stand? Seems to be closed off, have I missed something? Sure that's only a couple of hundred seats though and won't affect the capacity too much.
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Don’t forget though wolves are bigger than yow.
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So if we havent sold 30k yet whats the waiting list for, shouldnt the waiting list begin once all available season tickets are sold?
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So if we havent sold 30k yet whats the waiting list for, shouldnt the waiting list begin once all available season tickets are sold?
People have still got until the end of next week to renew. The first people on the waiting list will qualify for any spares as soon as that deadline passes.
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It will be interesting to see how much demand there is next season once the reality of PL football has kicked back in. Anything lower than a top half finish and I suspect it will fall back a little and those on the waiting list will get a ticket if they still want one.
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It will be interesting to see how much demand there is next season once the reality of PL football has kicked back in. Anything lower than a top half finish and I suspect it will fall back a little and those on the waiting list will get a ticket if they still want one.
OR we could be absolutely flying next season playing free flowing attacking football and they'll have to announce plans to extend the stadium.
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I wasn’t going to renew, but now it seems to be the worst possible moment to give up a season ticket, so I might.
My thoughts having moved away were that I’d see how many games I went to from up here and whether it became a chore. If I ended up happily going to enough games to justify a season ticket I would get one again next season.
The other factor was that during all of our Wembley trips of recent years you haven’t needed a season ticket to get there.
Everything has changed!
I now think that I’m more likely to keep the ST for now & see how support from up here works, & only give my ST up if I feel like it’s not working out.
The good thing is that these sales have created enough demand for me to shift my season ticket seat on the games I can’t/ don’t want to go.
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Go on, renew. And get that troublemaker Jane to renew n'all. 😊
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It will be interesting to see how much demand there is next season once the reality of PL football has kicked back in. Anything lower than a top half finish and I suspect it will fall back a little and those on the waiting list will get a ticket if they still want one.
OR we could be absolutely flying next season playing free flowing attacking football and they'll have to announce plans to extend the stadium.
Yes that hopefully will happen or once we get used to mid table mediocrity normal conditioning means a fall back.
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I was going to leave it for a few more days but tried again earlier and decided to go Upper Trinity. Thank god for that.
30,000 though, unprecedented. Its funny to think back when I first started going down in 90/91 we averaged just over 20k. 🤷🏼♂️
We only averaged 33k in 80/81 when we were League Champions
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That 33k was the 4th highest. Liverpool averaged 32k when winning the league a couple of years later. The drop in attendances that lead to the nadir of 1986 had already started by 80/81.
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80-81 was right in the middle of Thatchers mass unemployment experiment. Crowds were low everywhere
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I've just received an email regarding registering interest and putting yourself on a waiting list. Got a feeling they've probably sold 26k - 27k and the waiting list is the guaranteed way of making sure they sell 30k. They certainly say nowhere they've sold 30k or they're sold out.
Certainly I hope that's the case!
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I've just received an email regarding registering interest and putting yourself on a waiting list. Got a feeling they've probably sold 26k - 27k and the waiting list is the guaranteed way of making sure they sell 30k. They certainly say nowhere they've sold 30k or they're sold out.
Certainly I hope that's the case!
I received that mail too. It says there are 3894 seats available, whatever that means
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Does anyone know if you have a under age season ticket if you can upgrade it to an adult one for one off games ?
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Anyone know what tends to happen on relocation day?
My sons a ST holder in the Lower North, in R1, with a friend who hardly went in the end last season due to some issues he's got.His other friend (M), is in the Holte.
M and my son are both off to Notts Uni and they want to renew to sit together in Lower North as money's tight.Obviously, we realize that M is going to have to renew his Holte ticket firstly, but to compound it, his friend I suspect will now renew knowing that he'd struggle to get another ST at a later point...but my son doesn't want to sit together without M as these issues could arise next year, and he found it hard to sit on his own every game.
My son would love them all 3 of them to have a ST together in the Lower North, do we think it's feasible or likely, come relocation day?If so, any ideas as to the best way to achieve it on relocation day....
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Managed to get mine yesterday as a first time season ticket holder.
Already feeling the pressure to keep it for years to come knowing now there’s going to be a big waiting list!
I thought it was only last years ST holders that could purchase at the moment until relocation day ?
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This made me smile.
Birmingham City - I want a refund on my season ticket for sacking Gary Monk.
West Olbiyun - We can’t pay our debts, we are in the shit.
Aston Villa - We’ve had to stop people buying season tickets, sorry everyone.
Karma.
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Does anyone know if you have a under age season ticket if you can upgrade it to an adult one for one off games ?
Yes you can- I have done this several times in the last couple of seasons whilst my son has been at Uni. Only downside is that you cannot do it online but a telephone call to the ticket office will get it sorted with a e-ticket for an adult being sent to your email address. For me the uplift is normally around the £20-£25 mark.
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Are they doing the Claret Membership Schemes again this season when are they on sale does anyone now.
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Anyone know what tends to happen on relocation day?
My sons a ST holder in the Lower North, in R1, with a friend who hardly went in the end last season due to some issues he's got.His other friend (M), is in the Holte.
M and my son are both off to Notts Uni and they want to renew to sit together in Lower North as money's tight.Obviously, we realize that M is going to have to renew his Holte ticket firstly, but to compound it, his friend I suspect will now renew knowing that he'd struggle to get another ST at a later point...but my son doesn't want to sit together without M as these issues could arise next year, and he found it hard to sit on his own every game.
My son would love them all 3 of them to have a ST together in the Lower North, do we think it's feasible or likely, come relocation day?If so, any ideas as to the best way to achieve it on relocation day....
Get to the ticket office early. The earlier the better, because unless you're prepared to camp from Friday night, there will be a queue in front of you. It's not chaotic, but being 50 yards back means you won't stop panicking that every one in front of you is after your ideal seats. And if the people you want to move aren't present with you, make sure they've either sent an email to the club or given you something in writing that grants you permission to relocate their seat on their behalf.
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Does anyone know if you have a under age season ticket if you can upgrade it to an adult one for one off games ?
Yes you can- I have done this several times in the last couple of seasons whilst my son has been at Uni. Only downside is that you cannot do it online but a telephone call to the ticket office will get it sorted with a e-ticket for an adult being sent to your email address. For me the uplift is normally around the £20-£25 mark.
that's great thanks for that
i thought i'd read you could but didn't know the procedure
only problem being that my calls get cut off after anything up to 10-15 minutes so i cant actually talk to anyone there
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Does anyone have a seating plan (with rows/seats obvs) that I can look at? I'm looking for Upper Trinity, so gives me an idea of how the plan looks before I attempt the madness that is relocation day. Of course I know that STs are yet to confirm/renew, but I could do with an idea.
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We're applying to the BCC to knock down the ticket office. Intention is for new offices/hotel/museum, subject to a further application, to replace existing structures.
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Does anyone know if you have a under age season ticket if you can upgrade it to an adult one for one off games ?
Yes you can, up to 5 times this season.
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We're applying to the BCC to knock down the ticket office. Intention is for new offices/hotel/museum, subject to a further application, to replace existing structures.
Using a contractor from Green Lane. Behind enemy lines.
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Managed to get mine yesterday as a first time season ticket holder.
Already feeling the pressure to keep it for years to come knowing now there’s going to be a big waiting list!
I thought it was only last years ST holders that could purchase at the moment until relocation day ?
They were on General Sale on Monday then capped last night. I got in about half an hour after they went sale and there were obviously going like hot cakes.
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Doesn’t capping sales at 30k also virtually guarantee every ST holder a ticket for Wembley should we reach a cup final.
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Doesn’t capping sales at 30k also virtually guarantee every ST holder a ticket for Wembley should we reach a cup final.
You only get 25k tickets in the FA Cup Final.
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Why the waiting list then ? Is it to still give priority to last years ST holders until 29th without breaking 30k ?
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Why the waiting list then ? Is it to still give priority to last years ST holders until 29th without breaking 30k ?
I'd guess so. If all the outstanding ST holders renew in time, there'll be 30,000 by saturday week. For any that don't, it'll be one out, one in from the waiting list.
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Are they doing the Claret Membership Schemes again this season when are they on sale does anyone now.
I rang up the club and they said they haven’t made their minds up yet.
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Can anyone tell me how much the total cost is for a "zone 2" seat (initially £615) if the finance package is opted for?
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Can anyone tell me how much the total cost is for a "zone 2" seat (initially £615) if the finance package is opted for?
Think it was about £650. I found it cheaper to put it on a 0% credit card and pay it off that way rather than finance. Depending on your personal circumstances, obviously.
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Can anyone tell me how much the total cost is for a "zone 2" seat (initially £615) if the finance package is opted for?
Think it was about £650. I found it cheaper to put it on a 0% credit card and pay it off that way rather than finance. Depending on your personal circumstances, obviously.
Cheers mate
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Are they doing the Claret Membership Schemes again this season when are they on sale does anyone now.
I rang up the club and they said they haven’t made their minds up yet.
i know we are in unchartered territory with a season ticket cap, but every other football club where demand exceeds supply has a tiered membership system to manage sales for non-season ticket holders.
the club needs to sort itself out. and quickly.
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Are they doing the Claret Membership Schemes again this season when are they on sale does anyone now.
I rang up the club and they said they haven’t made their minds up yet.
i know we are in unchartered territory with a season ticket cap, but every other football club where demand exceeds supply has a tiered membership system to manage sales for non-season ticket holders.
the club needs to sort itself out. and quickly.
Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Reinstate the memberships, and unless they cap those too at pretty low levels, we'll have no "casual" support whatsoever, which can't be good for our long-term health. They've got 8k to play with.
All of a sudden, we need a bigger ground.
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I think paying £20 a year to have access to buy the odd ticket is pretty casual.
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I think paying £20 a year to have access to buy the odd ticket is pretty casual.
Are they doing the away season ticket thing next season?
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They better.
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Hopefully they won't rip people off again.
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I've just renewed.
I will, however, be moving seat to be closer to friends.
re relocation day, how does that work? i take it there will be some way of doing it online rather than actually going to the ticket office?
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I've just renewed.
I will, however, be moving seat to be closer to friends.
re relocation day, how does that work? i take it there will be some way of doing it online rather than actually going to the ticket office?
All they will do is unlock all the seats they have available either unsold from last season or from people who have not renewed and its 1st come 1st served either on the phone, in person or on-line
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I'm in no way convinced that you'll be able to relocate online. Bear in mind that towards the end of last season, when me and others repeatedly had the chance to move back to old seats that were reserved specifically for us, there was no online facility to do even this simple task. We had to ring the ticket office.
I honestly can't see them installing some bespoke software just for one day on Saturday whereby you'll be able to effectively sell your season ticket back and then buy a new one.
And I can only imagine the ire if you tried to move other people too, so's you could all sit together.
I'll be ringing them later to get my old UT seat back. I'll ask them then, but I really do think that you're looking at either queuing up or making a potentially fairly frustrating phone call.
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I went to an Everton relocation day with a mate 5 years ago and you walked around the stand and picked up a card off the seat you wanted.
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I went to an Everton relocation day with a mate 5 years ago and you walked around the stand and picked up a card off the seat you wanted.
What a great idea.
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wouldn’t it be difficult to go to the stadium to see the seats you wanted if someone was taking them online at the same time
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I don’t remember demand for tickets exceeding supply, ever really being an issue in my supporting lifetime. This is a new one really, so haven’t given it a great deal of thought. But I do think it’s a good idea to limit the number of season tickets, or else people who can’t afford one are going to be excluded from going.
As I remember, we’d have crowds around 33-36k And then, there’d
be the ones where we could’ve sold 80k.
Couple of seasons like this and the case for adding extra capacity becomes quite strong. It’s a big risk though as everybody knows that there’s no crystal ball and no guarantees of staying in the prem, or the football / results retaining the extra crowds.
I’d like to see the north stand redeveloped, but wouldn’t be surprised, or too upset if it isn’t, which I think is more likely, unless we do solidly break into top 6 territory.
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Are they doing the Claret Membership Schemes again this season when are they on sale does anyone now.
I rang up the club and they said they haven’t made their minds up yet.
Thanks for that Mike.
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Just spoken to Paul from the ticket office. You will not be able to relocate online.
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Are they doing the Claret Membership Schemes again this season when are they on sale does anyone now.
I rang up the club and they said they haven’t made their minds up yet.
Thanks for that Mike.
They have now. Just announced.
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I absolutely hate it.
"Chuck us £35 and you can take your pick out of the big games without bothering to turn up to any others".
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Just been looking at a programme from 1986. Attendances of circa 16000 average and £1.50 ticket (kids) £3.00 adults. How times have changed.
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With the club membership , can you purchase another couple of tickets with it if you don’t mind not assigning to other fan id’s and having them against just mine ?
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With the club membership , can you purchase another couple of tickets with it if you don’t mind not assigning to other fan id’s and having them against just mine ?
You can't jump the queue, no. You'll only be able to get extra tickets all on one reference once it goes to general sale. One qualifying reference = one ticket, member or season ticket holder or not.
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This is amazing. These conversations we are having on here were unthinkable In February, yet here we are.
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This is amazing. These conversations we are having on here were unthinkable In February, yet here we are.
I was on holiday last week. Me and the Mrs were on a train from Valencia, down the coast. We'd both spent the last ten minutes looking out the window, not saying anything.
After a while, in a splurge-of-consciousness moment, i turned to her and said, "Ten wins in a row, do you have any idea what an achievement that is?"
She looked at me like I'd just pissed in her shoes.
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I absolutely hate it.
"Chuck us £35 and you can take your pick out of the big games without bothering to turn up to any others".
I don't think it works that way at all. There are only 8k seats for general sale and they aren't limiting the number of people who can join the scheme. It won't guarantee anyone a ticket but it means you are eligible to join the queue for one. My son for example can't guarantee he can make games due to his work but im buying him a 35 quid membership so at least he he's in with a chance when he can. If i was loaded i'd just buy him a season ticket to guarantee his seat when he can make it. But i'm not so this is a compromise im happy to try out. The club aren't going to run such a scheme for free, after all they are a business.
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I absolutely hate it.
"Chuck us £35 and you can take your pick out of the big games without bothering to turn up to any others".
I don't think it works that way at all. There are only 8k seats for general sale and they aren't limiting the number of people who can join the scheme. It won't guarantee anyone a ticket but it means you are eligible to join the queue for one. My son for example can't guarantee he can make games due to his work but im buying him a 35 quid membership so at least he he's in with a chance when he can. If i was loaded i'd just buy him a season ticket to guarantee his seat when he can make it. But i'm not so this is a compromise im happy to try out. The club aren't going to run such a scheme for free, after all they are a business.
I’m the same. I can’t get to the ground enough to justify a season ticket but I want to take my children to half a dozen games. They actually get four free tickets plus a joining gift plus birthday and Christmas cards so it’s quite a good deal.
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I still think we needed a bigger ground...
The memberships are a good idea. If we exceed our capacity for now with them, so be it. Seeing the ground close to full for every game, not just the "big" ones, will be superb.
This is amazing. These conversations we are having on here were unthinkable In February, yet here we are.
You're not wrong!
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Claret membership worked perfectly for me last season. I travel up from London for games, and this meant that I could pretty much guarantee being able to sit next to mates who are season ticket holders. Ended up doing 16 games, so it's certainly not just for people who want to handpick one or two games a season.
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With the club membership , can you purchase another couple of tickets with it if you don’t mind not assigning to other fan id’s and having them against just mine ?
You can't jump the queue, no. You'll only be able to get extra tickets all on one reference once it goes to general sale. One qualifying reference = one ticket, member or season ticket holder or not.
Whilst I appreciate ur thoughts I know I ve purchased 3 before on my1 membership in 15/16 but all on my id. That’s fine by us but I need 100% clarification so know how it works now. Can’t even workout from terms and conditions.... point 18 does mention tickets in plural but not sure of context . Tried for your to get through to ticket office but keeps ringing me off as I don’t have a current membership to renew I’m clearly down their priority listings.... very frustrating when I’m trying to make an informed decision
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Lastfootstamper is right. It's been tightened up so that you can only use your own reference for one ticket in the Claret/Cub member ticket window. When it goes to general sale, then you can purchase more.
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Lastfootstamper is right. It's been tightened up so that you can only use your own reference for one ticket in the Claret/Cub member ticket window. When it goes to general sale, then you can purchase more.
Ok thanks both
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I think clause 17 (https://www.avfc.co.uk/club/legal/membership-terms-and-conditions) is straightforward
17 Applications for Match Tickets in accordance with the Membership Programme are strictly on the basis of one Match Ticket per Member, unless expressly permitted otherwise by AVFC.
18 does state that for group applications, every Match Ticket applied for must be for use by a current Member (and details of each additional Member which are part of that application must be provided at the point any such application for Match Tickets is made).
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Thanks , based on hour feedback we’ve purchased 4 this afternoon . Nil phone answering all day at ticket office having selected their required options or not a reply on twitter posting as asked on avfc Supporter site .
Thank god for a few of you from heroes and villains !!👍
Just have to hope that 25% of ST holders don’t buy 1 extra ticket each for every game or there won’t be any for claret members anyway 😂😂
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This is amazing. These conversations we are having on here were unthinkable In February, yet here we are.
I was on holiday last week. Me and the Mrs were on a train from Valencia, down the coast. We'd both spent the last ten minutes looking out the window, not saying anything.
After a while, in a splurge-of-consciousness moment, i turned to her and said, "Ten wins in a row, do you have any idea what an achievement that is?"
She looked at me like I'd just pissed in her shoes.
Love this post. This is my life.
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Thanks , based on hour feedback we’ve purchased 4 this afternoon . Nil phone answering all day at ticket office having selected their required options or not a reply on twitter posting as asked on avfc Supporter site .
Thank god for a few of you from heroes and villains !!👍
Just have to hope that 25% of ST holders don’t buy 1 extra ticket each for every game or there won’t be any for claret members anyway 😂😂
You'll be fine. Last season there was usually a small window for season ticket holders to buy extra tickets before they went to general sale, but only after they'd been available to members for about a week. Your only trouble might come if we end up with STHs and memberships combined actually exceeding capacity, in which case you'll have to get in sharpish!
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Also something I meant to say earlier, I don't believe the ticket office operation is manned on a Saturday, outside of matchdays and extraordinary circumstances.
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Also something I meant to say earlier, I don't believe the ticket office operation is manned on a Saturday, outside of matchdays and extraordinary circumstances.
Yes it was asking for various options then you’ll be answered shortly to then dead ring tone. Just after 4pm it changed to answerphone message saying office was then closed.
Made redundant last year so retired at my youthful age so I’ll be ready online don’t you worry !😜
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Just have to hope that 25% of ST holders don’t buy 1 extra ticket each for every game or there won’t be any for claret members anyway 😂😂
Claret members can buy their tickets before season ticket holders can buy more, on the basis that claret members are buying their own tickets whilst season ticket holders already have their own and are buying for others.
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Just have to hope that 25% of ST holders don’t buy 1 extra ticket each for every game or there won’t be any for claret members anyway 😂😂
Claret members can buy their tickets before season ticket holders can buy more, on the basis that claret members are buying their own tickets whilst season ticket holders already have their own and are buying for others.
No it’s def after ST holders secure extras, always has been
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Daz, that's just confusing things by mentioning season ticket holders, who are technically first to get a ticket, namely their own.
This from a ticket office bulletin (for Bolton) from last season, there's more if you want to search
Friday 28th September, 5pm ONLINE/Monday 1st October ON PHONE/IN PERSON: On sale to Claret and Cub Members
Friday 5th October, 5pm ONLINE/Monday 8th October ON PHONE/IN PERSON: On sale to Season Ticket Holders wishing to purchase extra tickets
Friday 12th October, 5pm ONLINE/Monday 15th October ON PHONE/IN PERSON: On general sale
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Yep, why on earth would season ticket holders get the chance to buy extra tickets before either members or casual supporters have a chance to ?
I'm someone who goes to maybe half the home games. This thread is worrying me to be honest about seeing much next season !
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That was last season when tickets were readily available for most home games, I would not expect this season that season ticket holders would be able to buy any extra tickets, it will go to claret members ad then probably booking history
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Come on Villa announce the rebuild of the North stand. Take the capacity up to 50,000. The time has come.
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Tis a bit rubbish that in a quarter of a century since the Holte was changed, we've not seemed too bothered about getting capacity back up to what it was just before then.
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Well it has been a lost decade (2010-2019) for us and arguably a lost 25 years given the fighting chance we had of establishing ourselves as a perennial big team in the mid-90s.
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Come on Villa announce the rebuild of the North stand. Take the capacity up to 50,000. The time has come.
Let's fill the ground and keep it full before worrying about any of that. We had a whole tier closed for nearly 3 years
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It was closed for some of those three years. It was open nearly as often as it was shut last season and we averaged over 36,000 despite loads of midweek and occasionally piss-poor away followings. There are hardly any midweek games in the Premier League and our average, excluding midweek games, and was just over 38,000.
We could go up to 50,000, I reckon. Better that than have it so that people who want to attend matches can't get tickets.
In any case, the North Stand looks a bit shabby compared to the rest of the ground and the Witton Lane Stand isn't fit for purpose in terms of facilities, and so on.
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Come on Villa announce the rebuild of the North stand. Take the capacity up to 50,000. The time has come.
Let's fill the ground and keep it full before worrying about any of that. We had a whole tier closed for nearly 3 years
Same old arguments though, isn't it? I counter with, why wait til we're assured of 50k to do it, when at which point we'll have to lose an entire stand for a year, and have to reduce capacity to a little over what's now STH levels? We don't have the luxury of being able to borrow Wembley while we're having the work done. Yeah, there's maybe the possibility of the new Alex, but unless that's being designed around some future use as a football ground, I can't see it being big enough.
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The Alexandra Stadium could provide a 40,000 seat stop gap if there was big development going on at Villa Park - but that won't be until 2022.
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Next summer will be our last "full" summer to do it until 2024.
2021/22 season will likely start early and 2022/23 season will probably finish late to accommodate the Qatar World Cup and we have the Commonwealth Games in 2022.
Our last game of the season is away. If we start building the day after our last home game we could have it ready for very near the start of the 2020/21 season, especially if we request a couple of away games to start the season, as has become common practise among clubs rebuilding their ground.
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Didn’t I read that the North is getting a bit of spit and polish this summer?
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Come on Villa announce the rebuild of the North stand. Take the capacity up to 50,000. The time has come.
Let's fill the ground and keep it full before worrying about any of that. We had a whole tier closed for nearly 3 years
Same old arguments though, isn't it? I counter with, why wait til we're assured of 50k to do it, when at which point we'll have to lose an entire stand for a year, and have to reduce capacity to a little over what's now STH levels? We don't have the luxury of being able to borrow Wembley while we're having the work done. Yeah, there's maybe the possibility of the new Alex, but unless that's being designed around some future use as a football ground, I can't see it being big enough.
There has never been a time in my 48 years when we've ever looked like needing a 50k stadium and i doubt there ever will be.
Just pure vanity.
I can't think of anything much worse football wise than having a ground that's too big for 80% of the season and banks of empty unsold seats.
No need. 45k would be more than ample and we're close to that already.
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You could say the same about loads of clubs that now have capacities that 10-40 years ago you'd have thought they'd rarely need and yet now fill or near fill them. I hope we start thinking and acting like a big club, it's long overdue.
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Agreed. 50,000 should be the minimum we are looking at.
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In the long run if we want to compete with the big boys I would have thought we’d need to be filling 55k plus. But that would only ever be likely after a sustained period of success. I think the ground is plenty big enough for the next few seasons, particularly when the novelty of promotion has worn off. But if we’re pushing top 6 in a few years and still selling out regularly then we can look at the next level.
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It’s increasing our corporate sales thats the important thing in terms of revenue.
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Leicester are now averaging double what they were 20 years ago.
We've never had 30,000 season ticket holders or as few as 8,000 match day tickets per game. But that will be the reality, with all 19 games being sell outs, away crowd dependent.
This will more than likely lead to an average attendance of 41,000 plus, our highest since 1950. So greater demand now than at any point in all but a handful of users life time.
From Norwich to Bournemouth, supply has decreased by 50%, while demand will have increased.
There's been 50,000 attendances in lots of people lifetimes, before the capacity shrank.
You build every facet of the club; we are rebuilding the academy, rebuilding scouting, analytics, coaching, management, purchasing, so re-build the North. The decrease in elasticity of supply is going to make tickets a valuable commodity.
Take us to 52,000 and see how we get on.
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Take us to 52,000 and see how we get on.
And when we're still getting gates of mid 30k's in the main and say 45k every now and again what then?
The only way the club would ever consider increasing the capacity by so much is if we continually fill what we already have week in week out for a sustained period i'm sure. And surely that's exactly why we haven't despite having those plans all drawn up years ago.
It'd be far more logical to get a new North Stand built taking us up to 45k max IMHO.
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I don't see how that's logical. If you knock down the North it's pointless rebuilding it to add a few thousand to capacity and then have to start again to go to 50K when you could just go to 50k in the first place.
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Create the product and they will come, see City, Arsenal, Spurs, and others, Sunderland even. If, as it looks like we have mega rich owners, there maybe no ceiling to what we could become.
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Knocking down a stand to increase capacity by 2,000 would be a waste of time.
I hope our owners have a bit more ambition than sirlordbaltimore.
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Create the product and they will come, see City, Arsenal, Spurs, and others, Sunderland even. If, as it looks like we have mega rich owners, there maybe no ceiling to what we could become.
Manchester City found themselves being offered a new ground that would look ridiculous now if they hadn't got these owners. Spurs and Arsenal spent years selling out their grounds before they moved. Sunderland give do many tickets away their gates are irrelevant. For every Leicester and Southampton with bigger crowds there's a Coventry or Walsall whose ground move has done them no good at all.
If we can pull in 40k, or close to it, midweek against a mid-table team then expand but until then a new North Stand adding a couple of thousand to capacity and giving more corporate income should be enough.
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Create the product and they will come, see City, Arsenal, Spurs, and others, Sunderland even. If, as it looks like we have mega rich owners, there maybe no ceiling to what we could become.
Manchester City found themselves being offered a new ground that would look ridiculous now if they hadn't got these owners. Spurs and Arsenal spent years selling out their grounds before they moved. Sunderland give do many tickets away their gates are irrelevant. For every Leicester and Southampton with bigger crowds there's a Coventry or Walsall whose ground move has done them no good at all.
If we can pull in 40k, or close to it, midweek against a mid-table team then expand but until then a new North Stand adding a couple of thousand to capacity and giving more corporate income should be enough.
What I was meaning was that if we become as successful as City, etc, with a city the size of Birmingham they will come.
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You either leave the North as it is (apart from some sprucing up) or knock it down and take capacity to 50K+, going half arsed and knocking it down to add a couple of thousand and a bit of corporate is a total waste of time and money.
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You either leave the North as it is (apart from some sprucing up) or knock it down and take capacity to 50K+, going half arsed and knocking it down to add a couple of thousand and a bit of corporate is a total waste of time and money.
Totally agree.
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Create the product and they will come, see City, Arsenal, Spurs, and others, Sunderland even. If, as it looks like we have mega rich owners, there maybe no ceiling to what we could become.
Manchester City found themselves being offered a new ground that would look ridiculous now if they hadn't got these owners. Spurs and Arsenal spent years selling out their grounds before they moved. Sunderland give do many tickets away their gates are irrelevant. For every Leicester and Southampton with bigger crowds there's a Coventry or Walsall whose ground move has done them no good at all.
If we can pull in 40k, or close to it, midweek against a mid-table team then expand but until then a new North Stand adding a couple of thousand to capacity and giving more corporate income should be enough.
So we should base our capacity on a scenario that might apply once a season?
We will average over 40,000 next season. We don't want to be turning people away, if kids can't get to games they'll just end up supporting teams that are on telly all the time.
The past is irrevelant. How many times would West Ham or Spurs have filled a 50,000 capacity stadium regularly in the last forty years?
We can, and will, fill a bigger stadium.
And there is absolutely no point in tearing down a stand at great expense to replace it with one that only increases our potential income by a tiny amount.
The North Stand is rubbish, aesthetically, anyway, and the Witton Lane Stand is not fit for purpose in terms of its facilities.
Get them rebuilt.
We won't start playing like a big club on the pitch if we don't start acting like one off (and around) it.
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You either leave the North as it is (apart from some sprucing up) or knock it down and take capacity to 50K+, going half arsed and knocking it down to add a couple of thousand and a bit of corporate is a total waste of time and money.
Totally agree.
Me too.
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One of the problems we have to fix is flat commercial income.
The fact we went years in a league which is a license to print money and failed to significantly grow it says all you need to know about this club in recent years
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Give people what they want and increase the size of the Holte. Knock it down - two tiers is wrong and build a Dortmund like end - 20,000. It would be like having the old Holte back but only seated.
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We'll be having the same discussions about any potential redevelopment in 10 years time, just like we have been for the past 10 years.
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Ten thousand empty seats on a regular basis would look ridiculous. Revamp the North Stand, allowing it to be the first phase of an all-round expansion should the demand be there, and see what transpires from there.
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Why would you compare us to utter irrelevances like Walsall or Coventry as a reason not to increase capacity?
And we're not going to be averaging mid-30s. We'll be selling out, every week.
Strike while the iron is hot. Dont add 3,000 seats, add 10,000. Grow every facet and act like the big club we self evidently are, but seldom perform as.
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An extra 10,000 is a hell of a lot of people. Where are they all coming from? Pretty sure we didn't sell out every match last time we were in the Premier League, we should probably aim to do that for a couple of seasons before building massive extensions.
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Why would you compare us to utter irrelevances like Walsall or Coventry as a reason not to increase capacity?
And we're not going to be averaging mid-30s. We'll be selling out, every week.
Strike while the iron is hot. Dont add 3,000 seats, add 10,000. Grow every facet and act like the big club we self evidently are, but seldom perform as.
They're as valid as comparing us with Arsenal. The same things that are being said now were being said last time we got a 40k average, and look what happened after that. Let's see if we can fill what we've got first, before getting above ourselves.
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An extra 10,000 is a hell of a lot of people. Where are they all coming from? Pretty sure we didn't sell out every match last time we were in the Premier League, we should probably aim to do that for a couple of seasons before building massive extensions.
So you leave the North as it is until demand is constantly there to go for the big increase. It is a total waste of time and money to knock it down and add a few thousand seats which some are suggesting and imo is a pretty bonkers way to waste millions.
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I’d rather the money was invested in the squad for the next 3 or 4 seasons, then if we are progressing expand the ground.
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Why would you compare us to utter irrelevances like Walsall or Coventry as a reason not to increase capacity?
And we're not going to be averaging mid-30s. We'll be selling out, every week.
Strike while the iron is hot. Dont add 3,000 seats, add 10,000. Grow every facet and act like the big club we self evidently are, but seldom perform as.
They're as valid as comparing us with Arsenal. The same things that are being said now were being said last time we got a 40k average, and look what happened after that. Let's see if we can fill what we've got first, before getting above ourselves.
Yes, we missed out on millions of revenue over the past 10 years, as we'd have filled the ground, even in the 2nd division on occasions.
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Why would you compare us to utter irrelevances like Walsall or Coventry as a reason not to increase capacity?
And we're not going to be averaging mid-30s. We'll be selling out, every week.
Strike while the iron is hot. Dont add 3,000 seats, add 10,000. Grow every facet and act like the big club we self evidently are, but seldom perform as.
They're as valid as comparing us with Arsenal. The same things that are being said now were being said last time we got a 40k average, and look what happened after that. Let's see if we can fill what we've got first, before getting above ourselves.
How about West Ham Dave? They now average way more than we do and I think they have a waiting list for season tickets.
Football is booming. We somehow have to find a way to increase our gates just as others have done.
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Why would you compare us to utter irrelevances like Walsall or Coventry as a reason not to increase capacity?
And we're not going to be averaging mid-30s. We'll be selling out, every week.
Strike while the iron is hot. Dont add 3,000 seats, add 10,000. Grow every facet and act like the big club we self evidently are, but seldom perform as.
They're as valid as comparing us with Arsenal. The same things that are being said now were being said last time we got a 40k average, and look what happened after that. Let's see if we can fill what we've got first, before getting above ourselves.
How about West Ham Dave? They now average way more than we do and I think they have a waiting list for season tickets.
Football is booming. We somehow have to find a way to increase our gates just as others have done.
West Ham are in London, playing in one of the world's most iconic stadiums. Ask their supporters what they think of it.
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An extra 10,000 is a hell of a lot of people. Where are they all coming from? Pretty sure we didn't sell out every match last time we were in the Premier League, we should probably aim to do that for a couple of seasons before building massive extensions.
Where did 58,000 West Ham fans come from?
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Create the product and they will come, see City, Arsenal, Spurs, and others, Sunderland even. If, as it looks like we have mega rich owners, there maybe no ceiling to what we could become.
Manchester City found themselves being offered a new ground that would look ridiculous now if they hadn't got these owners. Spurs and Arsenal spent years selling out their grounds before they moved. Sunderland give do many tickets away their gates are irrelevant. For every Leicester and Southampton with bigger crowds there's a Coventry or Walsall whose ground move has done them no good at all.
If we can pull in 40k, or close to it, midweek against a mid-table team then expand but until then a new North Stand adding a couple of thousand to capacity and giving more corporate income should be enough.
So we should base our capacity on a scenario that might apply once a season?
We will average over 40,000 next season. We don't want to be turning people away, if kids can't get to games they'll just end up supporting teams that are on telly all the time.
The past is irrevelant. How many times would West Ham or Spurs have filled a 50,000 capacity stadium regularly in the last forty years?
We can, and will, fill a bigger stadium.
And there is absolutely no point in tearing down a stand at great expense to replace it with one that only increases our potential income by a tiny amount.
The North Stand is rubbish, aesthetically, anyway, and the Witton Lane Stand is not fit for purpose in terms of its facilities.
Get them rebuilt.
We won't start playing like a big club on the pitch if we don't start acting like one off (and around) it.
I started this debate when i suggested a rebuild of the North stand to bring our capacity up to 50 thousand. Everything you said in this post completely sums up my point.
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An extra 10,000 is a hell of a lot of people. Where are they all coming from? Pretty sure we didn't sell out every match last time we were in the Premier League, we should probably aim to do that for a couple of seasons before building massive extensions.
Where did 58,000 West Ham fans come from?
What Dave just said. I'm just wondering where this idea comes from that there are enough match-going Villa fans out there to fill a 50,000 plus stadium any time soon. I don't think we've sold out every game in the thirty-odd years I've been a fan. I don't think there's ever been a season ticket waiting list. I'm all for expansion and thinking big, but only when it's based on something tangible and there's an obvious need for it. I don't see how that's controversial given our painful recent history of throwing money down the pan.
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There's a season ticket waiting list now..
We have a choice:
(a) Expand the ground, accept that it might not he full every single game.
or
(b) Don't expand it and have disappointed fans unable to get tickets on a regular basis, costing Villa money at the same time.
I prefer (a).
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It's not like we're going to knock it down tomorrow, we've the best part of a year to judge what demand is, and what it's likely to be.
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It's alright to say stick an extra eight/ten thousand seats in and they'll be filled, but apart from the obvious how? (because we're still looking at a thirty per cent rise in gates at least to prevent the project from looking daft) there's also the question of where they're going to go.
You're not going to be able to double the capacity of the North Stand because there isn't that much room there - in fact, a new stand even holding the same number as now would take up a lot more space than the present one because we'd have to allow a lot more legroom and corporate facilities. Then there's the additional parking that would be needed. It all adds up to much more than build it and (hope) they'll come.
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We moan for years that we don't think and act like a big club that's going places and instead have a corner shop mentality, and then when we (the fans) talk about the club doing that, we're thinking too big.
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We moan for years that we don't think and act like a big club that's going places and instead have a corner shop mentality, and then when we (the fans) talk about the club doing that, we're thinking too big.
Absolutely. There is, to paraphrase a horrible bastatd, some beans on toast Doug Ellis thinking going on.
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It's alright to say stick an extra eight/ten thousand seats in and they'll be filled, but apart from the obvious how? (because we're still looking at a thirty per cent rise in gates at least to prevent the project from looking daft) there's also the question of where they're going to go.
You're not going to be able to double the capacity of the North Stand because there isn't that much room there - in fact, a new stand even holding the same number as now would take up a lot more space than the present one because we'd have to allow a lot more legroom and corporate facilities. Then there's the additional parking that would be needed. It all adds up to much more than build it and (hope) they'll come.
I thought we already had planning permission to develop/replace the North Stand and its disgracefully renamed neighbour going back to when Ellis was in charge. So that doesn't seem to be a problem.
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An extra 10,000 is a hell of a lot of people. Where are they all coming from? Pretty sure we didn't sell out every match last time we were in the Premier League, we should probably aim to do that for a couple of seasons before building massive extensions.
Where did 58,000 West Ham fans come from?
What Dave just said. I'm just wondering where this idea comes from that there are enough match-going Villa fans out there to fill a 50,000 plus stadium any time soon. I don't think we've sold out every game in the thirty-odd years I've been a fan. I don't think there's ever been a season ticket waiting list. I'm all for expansion and thinking big, but only when it's based on something tangible and there's an obvious need for it. I don't see how that's controversial given our painful recent history of throwing money down the pan.
I counter your point with Barcelona. Over 100,000 seats.They don't fill the Nou Camp every game but they can and do fill it when the occasion suits. No one ever questions why the ground is half full when they play bang average teams. That huge stadium is iconic and it defines them as the worlds No 1 football club. Im not suggesting we can compete with them but i am suggesting that we can and should start to think big. I absolutely believe that we are capable of becoming one of Englands top clubs. Our history proves this. In fact our heritage demands it.
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Yes exactly, people saying that it's pointless only adding a couple of thousand to the North Stand - with proper leg room and corporate boxes, 2000 would be a realistic upgrade. To get to the golden figure of 52,000 capacity that gets bandied about, that 10k increase on current capacity would surely have to be absorbed by all four sides, how the hell could you do it just at one end which isn't even the "hardcore" area for home support.
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It's alright to say stick an extra eight/ten thousand seats in and they'll be filled, but apart from the obvious how? (because we're still looking at a thirty per cent rise in gates at least to prevent the project from looking daft) there's also the question of where they're going to go.
You're not going to be able to double the capacity of the North Stand because there isn't that much room there - in fact, a new stand even holding the same number as now would take up a lot more space than the present one because we'd have to allow a lot more legroom and corporate facilities. Then there's the additional parking that would be needed. It all adds up to much more than build it and (hope) they'll come.
I thought we already had planning permission to develop/replace the North Stand and its disgracefully renamed neighbour going back to when Ellis was in charge. So that doesn't seem to be a problem.
I believe it ran out and was subject to improving the traffic problems.
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But even so, it suggests there is no reason why we can't increase capacity in that space. And transport probably has improved, to an extent. We have more fans arriving by coach, for instance, which lessens impact to residents. Still plenty more to do there, admittedly. But if the council can grant permission for a 15,000 capacity stadium to be expanded to 40,000 then a 25% capacity boost for a stadium not far away shouldn't be catastrophic.
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It's not about not thinking too big, it's about not getting ahead of ourselves. I'd love us to think bloody massive, starting with the football. Chuck shedloads of money at that first, make progress on the field, that's the biggest single thing that'll bring the crowds in. Everything follows from there. There's nothing Doug Ellis about that whatsoever.
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But even so, it suggests there is no reason why we can't increase capacity in that space. And transport probably has improved, to an extent. We have more fans arriving by coach, for instance, which lessens impact to residents. Still plenty more to do there, admittedly. But if the council can grant permission for a 15,000 capacity stadium to be expanded to 40,000 then a 25% capacity boost for a stadium not far away shouldn't be catastrophic.
There's a lot more available land there than we've got for a start, and a few weeks of disruption for the Commonwealth Games is a lot different to once a fortnight.
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Pretty sure the North holds just over 7k, it shouldn't be too difficult to build a new stand there that could hold say 13k (same as the Holte but with boxes and corporate included in that capacity) taking us to approx 48k. And if we're still selling out then look at Witton Lane if a further increase is needed, which will probably take a long time to sort anyway with the road and houses.
I just don't see the point in spending a shitload load of money to add just a couple of K, and then find it's still not enough. Either do the North properly or leave it as it is (capacity wise).
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It's not about not thinking too big, it's about not getting ahead of ourselves. I'd love us to think bloody massive, starting with the football. Chuck shedloads of money at that first, make progress on the field, that's the biggest single thing that'll bring the crowds in. Everything follows from there. There's nothing Doug Ellis about that whatsoever.
The crowds are being brought in with record ST sales, and it will be the best part of at least a year before it happens so the club has the opportunity to asses demand etc.
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Pretty sure the North holds just over 7k, it shouldn't be too difficult to build a new stand there that could hold say 13k (same as the Holte but with boxes and corporate included in that capacity) taking us to approx 48k. And if we're still selling out then look at Witton Lane if a further increase is needed, which will probably take a long time to sort anyway with the road and houses.
I just don't see the point in spending a shitload load of money to add just a couple of K, and then find it's still not enough. Either do the North properly or leave it as it is (capacity wise).
Good luck in almost doubling capacity with the land we have available, bearing in mind that you'll need more car parking and room for improved shop facilities.
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If we have thirty thousand season ticket holders it's not unreasonable to think that we can get 40,000. We've increase it by about ten thousand in hardly any time despite doing sod all, really. Our board have experience running a succesful team and know how marketing works. I think we should probably allow an extra thousand or so away fans to attend games, too. You'd be talking a minimum of 45,000 people turning up and at least eight or nine 50,000 attendances on that basis.
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Pretty sure the North holds just over 7k, it shouldn't be too difficult to build a new stand there that could hold say 13k (same as the Holte but with boxes and corporate included in that capacity) taking us to approx 48k. And if we're still selling out then look at Witton Lane if a further increase is needed, which will probably take a long time to sort anyway with the road and houses.
I just don't see the point in spending a shitload load of money to add just a couple of K, and then find it's still not enough. Either do the North properly or leave it as it is (capacity wise).
Good luck in almost doubling capacity with the land we have available, bearing in mind that you'll need more car parking and room for improved shop facilities.
Depends if we're ambitious and want to see solutions and reasons to do things or we're happy to stay as a corner shop and see problems and reasons to not bother as it's too difficult to be a big club. As i've said, they've at least the best part of a year to asses demand, logistics and so on.
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Why would you compare us to utter irrelevances like Walsall or Coventry as a reason not to increase capacity?
And we're not going to be averaging mid-30s. We'll be selling out, every week.
Strike while the iron is hot. Dont add 3,000 seats, add 10,000. Grow every facet and act like the big club we self evidently are, but seldom perform as.
They're as valid as comparing us with Arsenal. The same things that are being said now were being said last time we got a 40k average, and look what happened after that. Let's see if we can fill what we've got first, before getting above ourselves.
How about West Ham Dave? They now average way more than we do and I think they have a waiting list for season tickets.
Football is booming. We somehow have to find a way to increase our gates just as others have done.
West Ham are in London, playing in one of the world's most iconic stadiums. Ask their supporters what they think of it.
Well it was iconic, until they converted it into a fooyball ground.
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West Ham do, or at least did, have about 10k U16 season tickets holders (£99 a ST) and also gave away tens of thousands tickets each season.
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It's not about not thinking too big, it's about not getting ahead of ourselves. I'd love us to think bloody massive, starting with the football. Chuck shedloads of money at that first, make progress on the field, that's the biggest single thing that'll bring the crowds in. Everything follows from there. There's nothing Doug Ellis about that whatsoever.
The crowds are being brought in with record ST sales, and it will be the best part of at least a year before it happens so the club has the opportunity to asses demand etc.
That's great, I'm not in the market for a season ticket so didn't know they were in record demand. Hopefully this is the start of something big then, on and off the field.
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Why would you compare us to utter irrelevances like Walsall or Coventry as a reason not to increase capacity?
And we're not going to be averaging mid-30s. We'll be selling out, every week.
Strike while the iron is hot. Dont add 3,000 seats, add 10,000. Grow every facet and act like the big club we self evidently are, but seldom perform as.
They're as valid as comparing us with Arsenal. The same things that are being said now were being said last time we got a 40k average, and look what happened after that. Let's see if we can fill what we've got first, before getting above ourselves.
How about West Ham Dave? They now average way more than we do and I think they have a waiting list for season tickets.
Football is booming. We somehow have to find a way to increase our gates just as others have done.
West Ham are in London, playing in one of the world's most iconic stadiums. Ask their supporters what they think of it.
I agree. However, that isn't the point. We aren't going to move into a soulless stadium. If West Ham managed to find another 20,000 regulars, why can't we find 10,000?
Birmingham is also developing with apartments, bars and restaurants opening up regularly. There is no reason why we can't be as adventurous.
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There is no hurry, after a year or 2 in the PL should enable them to understand the potential or lack of.
I also think that they would need to involve the Council early to start discussions around improved access transport parking etc.
I have allways thought that the North Stand ruins the look of VP and would love to see it demolished.
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It's not about not thinking too big, it's about not getting ahead of ourselves. I'd love us to think bloody massive, starting with the football. Chuck shedloads of money at that first, make progress on the field, that's the biggest single thing that'll bring the crowds in. Everything follows from there. There's nothing Doug Ellis about that whatsoever.
The crowds are being brought in with record ST sales, and it will be the best part of at least a year before it happens so the club has the opportunity to asses demand etc.
That's great, I'm not in the market for a season ticket so didn't know they were in record demand. Hopefully this is the start of something big then, on and off the field.
There is record demand and daft demand. We have sold ST's out and have thousands on a waiting list. Finish even mid table and you have a compelling argument to ramp up capacity.
Call it the Wolves factor. They are that excited now that AT LEAST, 15 people might turn up....
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It's not about not thinking too big, it's about not getting ahead of ourselves. I'd love us to think bloody massive, starting with the football. Chuck shedloads of money at that first, make progress on the field, that's the biggest single thing that'll bring the crowds in. Everything follows from there. There's nothing Doug Ellis about that whatsoever.
The crowds are being brought in with record ST sales, and it will be the best part of at least a year before it happens so the club has the opportunity to asses demand etc.
That's great, I'm not in the market for a season ticket so didn't know they were in record demand. Hopefully this is the start of something big then, on and off the field.
There is record demand and daft demand. We have sold ST's out and have thousands on a waiting list. Finish even mid table and you have a compelling argument to ramp up capacity.
Call it the Wolves factor. They are that excited now that AT LEAST, 15 people might turn up....
Now that IS daft. 15? You'll be telling me next that they're going to take the hazard tape down and reopen that condemned stand behind the goal...
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It's not about not thinking too big, it's about not getting ahead of ourselves. I'd love us to think bloody massive, starting with the football. Chuck shedloads of money at that first, make progress on the field, that's the biggest single thing that'll bring the crowds in. Everything follows from there. There's nothing Doug Ellis about that whatsoever.
The crowds are being brought in with record ST sales, and it will be the best part of at least a year before it happens so the club has the opportunity to asses demand etc.
That's great, I'm not in the market for a season ticket so didn't know they were in record demand. Hopefully this is the start of something big then, on and off the field.
There is record demand and daft demand. We have sold ST's out and have thousands on a waiting list. Finish even mid table and you have a compelling argument to ramp up capacity.
Call it the Wolves factor. They are that excited now that AT LEAST, 15 people might turn up....
Now that IS daft. 15? You'll be telling me next that they're going to take the hazard tape down and reopen that condemned stand behind the goal...
I thought that Black and Yellow hazard tape was celebratory bunting.
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It's not about not thinking too big, it's about not getting ahead of ourselves. I'd love us to think bloody massive, starting with the football. Chuck shedloads of money at that first, make progress on the field, that's the biggest single thing that'll bring the crowds in. Everything follows from there. There's nothing Doug Ellis about that whatsoever.
The crowds are being brought in with record ST sales, and it will be the best part of at least a year before it happens so the club has the opportunity to asses demand etc.
That's great, I'm not in the market for a season ticket so didn't know they were in record demand. Hopefully this is the start of something big then, on and off the field.
There is record demand and daft demand. We have sold ST's out and have thousands on a waiting list. Finish even mid table and you have a compelling argument to ramp up capacity.
Call it the Wolves factor. They are that excited now that AT LEAST, 15 people might turn up....
Now that IS daft. 15? You'll be telling me next that they're going to take the hazard tape down and reopen that condemned stand behind the goal...
I thought that Black and Yellow hazard tape was celebratory bunting.
Careful if you go to the friendly at Shrewsbury. Bunting has a very different meaning to us rural folk!
(No sheep were harmed in the writing of this comment).
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Unless i've totally misread things, we don't have 30,000 season ticket holders and a waiting list. We have set a 30k limit on them and some folks are currently on a waiting list for one of those.
Fast forward a year or two and if we're piddling about in the lower reaches of the PL or even midtable and you can bet your arse they wont all still be there. And if we are showing some form towards the top six we still wouldn't shift more than 35k season tickets IMHO
I just don't know why people think we would. Absolutely nothing has shown that in recent history (four decades or so)
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From my reading of it, after this Friday, final renewal day, we'll have 30,000 and a waiting list, unless unlike the current trend there's thousands still to renew who are thinking, "nah, sod this".
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I don't understand the clamour to extend the ground. I get that the North Stand needs redeveloping but until we have around 10k people on a waiting list or have 3 seasons with consistent sell-outs I don't seen the need for it.
Regarding relocation day, are we expecting an update soon on how it will work logistically? i.e. will we be able to do it online?
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Unless i've totally misread things, we don't have 30,000 season ticket holders and a waiting list. We have set a 30k limit on them and some folks are currently on a waiting list for one of those.
Fast forward a year or two and if we're piddling about in the lower reaches of the PL or even midtable and you can bet your arse they wont all still be there. And if we are showing some form towards the top six we still wouldn't shift more than 35k season tickets IMHO
I just don't know why people think we would. Absolutely nothing has shown that in recent history (four decades or so)
The club put the brakes on ST sales because at the current rate if existing ST holders take up the renewal we will hit the 30k mark leaving only 8k on general sale matchdays. This has created a situation where there is a waiting list over and above the capped limit of 30k. Then we have the Claret club membership so i think its safe to assume our avetage next season will hover around the 40k mark.I get your cautious view but i don't share it. There is genuine optomism about the place that i haven't known for years. Lets just go for it and see where it takes us. I'm in the camp of extending the stadium. We have wealthy owners who have stated publicly that they want to make us one of the top clubs in the world! Who knows? I'm just going to enjoy the ride.
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Why 3 seasons? Why not 5? 2? 10?
Last season there was 16,000 match day tickets available for home support per game and as has been the case in every season before, no fundamental need for a season ticket, as supply exists in good quantities.
Now there are 8,000, including players tickets, Lion Clubs, competition winners and the like. Less than 150,000 available match tickets over the season as opposed to 304,000.
That hugely increases the need for a season ticket, increases demand that for the first time perhaps ever, Villa Park will not meet.
What would any big company do with their product? Twiddle their thumbs and see how it goes apparently, while making sure there's only 2 children in the shop at any given time.
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Why 3 seasons? Why not 5? 2? 10?
Last season there was 16,000 match day tickets available for home support per game and as has been the case in every season before, no fundamental need for a season ticket, as supply exists in good quantities.
Now there are 8,000, including players tickets, Lion Clubs, competition winners and the like. Less than 150,000 available match tickets over the season as opposed to 304,000.
That hugely increases the need for a season ticket, increases demand that for the first time perhaps ever, Villa Park will not meet.
What would any big company do with their product? Twiddle their thumbs and see how it goes apparently, while making sure there's only 2 children in the shop at any given time.
You're talking about one season though.
If next year doesn't go to plan, Deano gets the boot by Christmas, and we bring in Pulis (or someone "sexier" playing similar football) how many season tickets do you think we'll sell the following season?
30,000 people in a 42,000 capacity VP looks depressing - 30,000 in a 50 or 60,000 capacity VP would be soul-destroying. If it costs £100m to build those extra seats that'll be £100m we can't spend on improving the squad.
As others have said, let's get the squad sorted first and the ground improvements can follow.
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Pretty sure the North holds just over 7k, it shouldn't be too difficult to build a new stand there that could hold say 13k (same as the Holte but with boxes and corporate included in that capacity) taking us to approx 48k. And if we're still selling out then look at Witton Lane if a further increase is needed, which will probably take a long time to sort anyway with the road and houses.
I just don't see the point in spending a shitload load of money to add just a couple of K, and then find it's still not enough. Either do the North properly or leave it as it is (capacity wise).
Good luck in almost doubling capacity with the land we have available, bearing in mind that you'll need more car parking and room for improved shop facilities.
I'd argue the current layout of the area behind the North Stand is relatively inefficient, both with the layout of the car park, and the position of the academy building, ticket office and shop.
Filling in the corners would easily add another 1,000 seats. The quality of any upgrade to the North Stand is probably more important than any increase in capacity as well. Bring the stadium up to around 45k.
Big challenge then in revamping Witton Lane to then bring the capacity up further, depending on land constraints with the road and land on the other side.
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And what's the worst that can happen? We're left with a ground we fill a few times a year and make extra money out of.
Or, we actually back ourselves and act like what we are.; comfortably the biggest club in one of the largest population centres in Europe. Infrastructure is exempt from FFP, so it wouldn't come at a cost of buying exciting players, like £22m Brazlian strikers.
Given Purslow identified Smith for his style, if he fails, we will look for somebody who plays the game in an attractive manner.
We're a big club. What I find embarrassing is not some empty seats. Its looking at the mess that is the North. A converted shallow lower tier, an upper tier that is too narrow to fill the end, with a ridiculous goal post design.
Endless comments about how utterly shit the Upper Witton in particular is as an away end. Cramped and dingy.
That's not what Villa Park is and it's not what we should be about. Strike now and seek to redevelop at the first available opportunity. The support is there. They're queuing up.
Too much Ellis style thinking.
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To add and repeat what PWS said; its utterly pointless to add 3000 seats. A redeveloped North, with the corners filled would add 8,000-10,000 onto the gate. It would include corporate boxes and dramtically increase commercial revenue, match day and season ticket sales, the aesthetics the atmosphere would be better and more intimidating too.
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Pretty sure the North holds just over 7k, it shouldn't be too difficult to build a new stand there that could hold say 13k (same as the Holte but with boxes and corporate included in that capacity) taking us to approx 48k. And if we're still selling out then look at Witton Lane if a further increase is needed, which will probably take a long time to sort anyway with the road and houses.
I just don't see the point in spending a shitload load of money to add just a couple of K, and then find it's still not enough. Either do the North properly or leave it as it is (capacity wise).
Good luck in almost doubling capacity with the land we have available, bearing in mind that you'll need more car parking and room for improved shop facilities.
I'd argue the current layout of the area behind the North Stand is relatively inefficient, both with the layout of the car park, and the position of the academy building, ticket office and shop.
Filling in the corners would easily add another 1,000 seats. The quality of any upgrade to the North Stand is probably more important than any increase in capacity as well. Bring the stadium up to around 45k.
Big challenge then in revamping Witton Lane to then bring the capacity up further, depending on land constraints with the road and land on the other side.
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Pretty sure the North holds just over 7k, it shouldn't be too difficult to build a new stand there that could hold say 13k (same as the Holte but with boxes and corporate included in that capacity) taking us to approx 48k. And if we're still selling out then look at Witton Lane if a further increase is needed, which will probably take a long time to sort anyway with the road and houses.
I just don't see the point in spending a shitload load of money to add just a couple of K, and then find it's still not enough. Either do the North properly or leave it as it is (capacity wise).
Good luck in almost doubling capacity with the land we have available, bearing in mind that you'll need more car parking and room for improved shop facilities.
I'd argue the current layout of the area behind the North Stand is relatively inefficient, both with the layout of the car park, and the position of the academy building, ticket office and shop.
Filling in the corners would easily add another 1,000 seats. The quality of any upgrade to the North Stand is probably more important than any increase in capacity as well. Bring the stadium up to around 45k.
Big challenge then in revamping Witton Lane to then bring the capacity up further, depending on land constraints with the road and land on the other side.
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Sorry, North Stand end only
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I don't want us to end up with a bowl
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In any case, appears the planning submission made to extend the North Stand and alter Trinity Road (extending from 42k to 48k) was withdrawn some time ago.
https://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk/Northgate/PlanningExplorer/Generic/StdDetails.aspx?PT=Planning%20Applications%20On-Line&TYPE=PL/PlanningPK.xml&PARAM0=359101&XSLT=/Northgate/PlanningExplorer/SiteFiles/Skins/Birmingham/xslt/PL/PLDetails.xslt&FT=Planning%20Application%20Details&PUBLIC=Y&XMLSIDE=/Northgate/PlanningExplorer/SiteFiles/Skins/Birmingham/Menus/PL.xml&DAURI=PLANNING
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And what's the worst that can happen? We're left with a ground we fill a few times a year and make extra money out of.
Or, we actually back ourselves and act like what we are.; comfortably the biggest club in one of the largest population centres in Europe. Infrastructure is exempt from FFP, so it wouldn't come at a cost of buying exciting players, like £22m Brazlian strikers.
Given Purslow identified Smith for his style, if he fails, we will look for somebody who plays the game in an attractive manner.
We're a big club. What I find embarrassing is not some empty seats. Its looking at the mess that is the North. A converted shallow lower tier, an upper tier that is too narrow to fill the end, with a ridiculous goal post design.
Endless comments about how utterly shit the Upper Witton in particular is as an away end. Cramped and dingy.
That's not what Villa Park is and it's not what we should be about. Strike now and seek to redevelop at the first available opportunity. The support is there. They're queuing up.
Too much Ellis style thinking.
Spot on mate spot on. I mentioned the Nou Camp previously and before anyone laughs im not comparing us to Barca that would be ridiculous. I'm talking about the stadium itself. Probably the most iconic stadium in the world. Theres often 40,000 empty seats but who cares? When the occasion demands it the Nou Camp comes into it's own with over 100,000 in there. And thats how Villa Park should be. When it's full it's glorious and for me should hold at least 50,000. It wont bankrupt the club as our owners are extremely wealthy. What i find embarrassing is the North stand. It's as ugly as sin and the facilities are dire. Rebuilding it is a no brainer in my opinion. Look at Wolves. They have rebuilt their North stand twice in the time since we rebuilt the Witton end. We need to stop thinking like a corner shop club and start thinking like Selfridges!! Ellis has gone now ffs.
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Leaving it for a season makes sense to ensure we stop up. I would have the planning application in now though to redevelop the North Stand.
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And what's the worst that can happen? We're left with a ground we fill a few times a year and make extra money out of.
Or, we actually back ourselves and act like what we are.; comfortably the biggest club in one of the largest population centres in Europe. Infrastructure is exempt from FFP, so it wouldn't come at a cost of buying exciting players, like £22m Brazlian strikers.
Given Purslow identified Smith for his style, if he fails, we will look for somebody who plays the game in an attractive manner.
We're a big club. What I find embarrassing is not some empty seats. Its looking at the mess that is the North. A converted shallow lower tier, an upper tier that is too narrow to fill the end, with a ridiculous goal post design.
Endless comments about how utterly shit the Upper Witton in particular is as an away end. Cramped and dingy.
That's not what Villa Park is and it's not what we should be about. Strike now and seek to redevelop at the first available opportunity. The support is there. They're queuing up.
Too much Ellis style thinking.
Spot on mate spot on. I mentioned the Nou Camp previously and before anyone laughs im not comparing us to Barca that would be ridiculous. I'm talking about the stadium itself. Probably the most iconic stadium in the world. Theres often 40,000 empty seats but who cares? When the occasion demands it the Nou Camp comes into it's own with over 100,000 in there. And thats how Villa Park should be. When it's full it's glorious and for me should hold at least 50,000. It wont bankrupt the club as our owners are extremely wealthy. What i find embarrassing is the North stand. It's as ugly as sin and the facilities are dire. Rebuilding it is a no brainer in my opinion. Look at Wolves. They have rebuilt their North stand twice in the time since we rebuilt the Witton end. We need to stop thinking like a corner shop club and start thinking like Selfridges!! Ellis has gone now ffs.
All this talk about not affecting FFP and the owners wealth is all well and good but you don't become a millionaire by pissing your money away at the first opportunity.
These guys are proper businessmen and they'll only invest their money if they think it's going to make them a return. Done properly, the North Stand redevelopment could cost up to £200m on the basis Spurs spent £850m to build their new stadium. Whilst they're both loaded, I'm certain they don't see that as the kind of money to spend without a cast iron business case behind it to show how it makes them more money.
Turn the squad in to one which is regularly in with a shout of Champions League football and your business case is there. Do it now and a half empty Villa Park is only one of the problems it causes.
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Leaving it for a season makes sense to ensure we stop up. I would have the planning application in now though to redevelop the North Stand.
I think that sounds sensible.
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And what's the worst that can happen? We're left with a ground we fill a few times a year and make extra money out of.
Or, we actually back ourselves and act like what we are.; comfortably the biggest club in one of the largest population centres in Europe. Infrastructure is exempt from FFP, so it wouldn't come at a cost of buying exciting players, like £22m Brazlian strikers.
Given Purslow identified Smith for his style, if he fails, we will look for somebody who plays the game in an attractive manner.
We're a big club. What I find embarrassing is not some empty seats. Its looking at the mess that is the North. A converted shallow lower tier, an upper tier that is too narrow to fill the end, with a ridiculous goal post design.
Endless comments about how utterly shit the Upper Witton in particular is as an away end. Cramped and dingy.
That's not what Villa Park is and it's not what we should be about. Strike now and seek to redevelop at the first available opportunity. The support is there. They're queuing up.
Too much Ellis style thinking.
Spot on mate spot on. I mentioned the Nou Camp previously and before anyone laughs im not comparing us to Barca that would be ridiculous. I'm talking about the stadium itself. Probably the most iconic stadium in the world. Theres often 40,000 empty seats but who cares? When the occasion demands it the Nou Camp comes into it's own with over 100,000 in there. And thats how Villa Park should be. When it's full it's glorious and for me should hold at least 50,000. It wont bankrupt the club as our owners are extremely wealthy. What i find embarrassing is the North stand. It's as ugly as sin and the facilities are dire. Rebuilding it is a no brainer in my opinion. Look at Wolves. They have rebuilt their North stand twice in the time since we rebuilt the Witton end. We need to stop thinking like a corner shop club and start thinking like Selfridges!! Ellis has gone now ffs.
All this talk about not affecting FFP and the owners wealth is all well and good but you don't become a millionaire by pissing your money away at the first opportunity.
These guys are proper businessmen and they'll only invest their money if they think it's going to make them a return. Done properly, the North Stand redevelopment could cost up to £200m on the basis Spurs spent £850m to build their new stadium. Whilst they're both loaded, I'm certain they don't see that as the kind of money to spend without a cast iron business case behind it to show how it makes them more money.
Turn the squad in to one which is regularly in with a shout of Champions League football and your business case is there. Do it now and a half empty Villa Park is only one of the problems it causes.
Redevelping the North stand would not cost anything like 200 million. 50 million sounds more like it but as you say rich people don't waste their money. Didn't Wes Edens oversee knocking down and rebuild an entire stadium in the US?
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If Lerner and Xia had plans to do it, with far less attending interest than we have currently, why wouldn't they consider it?
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Why 3 seasons? Why not 5? 2? 10?
Last season there was 16,000 match day tickets available for home support per game and as has been the case in every season before, no fundamental need for a season ticket, as supply exists in good quantities.
Now there are 8,000, including players tickets, Lion Clubs, competition winners and the like. Less than 150,000 available match tickets over the season as opposed to 304,000.
That hugely increases the need for a season ticket, increases demand that for the first time perhaps ever, Villa Park will not meet.
What would any big company do with their product? Twiddle their thumbs and see how it goes apparently, while making sure there's only 2 children in the shop at any given time.
Agree.
My thinking is along the lines of, the owners know that we could, possibly, sell out on a regular basis this season, so may have already started the initial process. If we have a half decent season I reckon they might go for it.
Don't forget we're a season ahead of schedule (Just going by the 'Promotion not necessary'comments) so the 21/22 season would, probably, have been the earliest start
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some questions if you don’t mind
if you have bought a junior ST how and when do you go through the process of proof of age ?
When do you get the ST’s has anyone got there’s through the post yet ?
Sorry for my ignorance I have t been a ST holder since the days of MON
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some questions if you dont mind
if you have bought a junior ST how and when do you go through the process of proof of age ?
When do you get the STs has anyone got theres through the post yet ?
Sorry for my ignorance I have t been a ST holder since the days of MON
They will send you an e-mail asking you to provide verification of the dob and you can e-mail it into them, new season tickets wont be sent out until the end of July the TO told me
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I said this a couple of years into the Lerner era.
It's not a case of will we fill a 50k ground?
It's more like we have to (build and) fill a 50k ground, along with vastly improving the commercial revenues if we ever going to compete at the absolute top level again.
Doing nothing is simply not an option unless we want to muddle along much like Everton are doing at the moment.
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I said this a couple of years into the Lerner era.
It's not a case of will we fill a 50k ground?
It's more like we have to (build and) fill a 50k ground, along with vastly improving the commercial revenues if we ever going to compete at the absolute top level again.
Doing nothing is simply not an option unless we want to muddle along much like Everton are doing at the moment.
Agreed. I like your thinking.
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some questions if you dont mind
if you have bought a junior ST how and when do you go through the process of proof of age ?
When do you get the STs has anyone got theres through the post yet ?
Sorry for my ignorance I have t been a ST holder since the days of MON
They will send you an e-mail asking you to provide verification of the dob and you can e-mail it into them, new season tickets wont be sent out until the end of July the TO told me
That’s great thanks for that
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Barcelona averaged 22,000 less than their capacity, yet they're spending €250m to add 13,500 extra seats that they'll only fill on occasion.
Their lowest crowd saw 56,000 empty seats.
Purpose isn't to say we're anything like Barca, but to back up the earlier claims and rubbish the idea of being embarrassed by empty seats.
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I thought they were only adding about 5k to the capacity, most of the cost is putting a roof on. At least I think that's what was in the article I read a few weeks back.
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Why 3 seasons? Why not 5? 2? 10?
Last season there was 16,000 match day tickets available for home support per game and as has been the case in every season before, no fundamental need for a season ticket, as supply exists in good quantities.
Now there are 8,000, including players tickets, Lion Clubs, competition winners and the like. Less than 150,000 available match tickets over the season as opposed to 304,000.
That hugely increases the need for a season ticket, increases demand that for the first time perhaps ever, Villa Park will not meet.
What would any big company do with their product? Twiddle their thumbs and see how it goes apparently, while making sure there's only 2 children in the shop at any given time.
Surely, surely, this is exactly what Edens and Sawiris hoped would happen when they took over, that demand would stress supply almost immediately? I can't think they're not licking their lips at this situation.
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I do enjoy all this optimism and I thank God we're in a position to talk like so.
However, is anyone else struggling to read this narrative of "let's go for it and spend X on this new stand" and then in transfer thread read "we should never spend X on a league Y player" ?
Hopefully things will progress in the right way on both fronts.
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I thought it was just me who hated the North Stand.
I would like to think that the planning is going on now so at least we are Prepared.
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I do enjoy all this optimism and I thank God we're in a position to talk like so.
However, is anyone else struggling to read this narrative of "let's go for it and spend X on this new stand" and then in transfer thread read "we should never spend X on a league Y player" ?
Hopefully things will progress in the right way on both fronts.
I believe that we should have a modern ground befitting of our historical standing, and spend the going rate for players of quality. Isn't it a Villa invention, such profligacy in the name of football?
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I do enjoy all this optimism and I thank God we're in a position to talk like so.
However, is anyone else struggling to read this narrative of "let's go for it and spend X on this new stand" and then in transfer thread read "we should never spend X on a league Y player" ?
Hopefully things will progress in the right way on both fronts.
I believe that we should have a modern ground befitting of our historical standing, and spend the going rate for players of quality. Isn't it a Villa invention, such profligacy in the name of football?
Yes, I personally agree.
I was just remarking on the sometimes disconnect that appears on here. Go to the transfer thread, many on there are stuck quoting transfer fees that no longer exist...that was more my point.
Some seem happy for owners to spend trillions on the right sleeve colour, new badge, and hopefully better place to play, but seem offended when today's going rate gets mentioned for player X.
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I thought it was just me who hated the North Stand.
I would like to think that the planning is going on now so at least we are Prepared.
Correct answer on both fronts! North Stand rebuild and Prepared back on our badge please
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I wouldn't mind sticking something like the old Trinity Road lion gable on any potential new stand. Something to make it stand out rather than just another lego stand like the Witton Lane.
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I thought they were only adding about 5k to the capacity, most of the cost is putting a roof on. At least I think that's what was in the article I read a few weeks back.
New plans submitted I believe. The original 5k also involved selling the other stadium next door and has been aborted about 3 times.
The whole ground is getting a re-furb, they're putting another tier on and a roof. Theres a snazzy video floating about on YouTube with the design and build cycle.
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How is the atmosphere at the Camp Nou for run of the mill games, does anyone know? Given their dominance of the Spanish league, it doesn't appear to impinge on their results too much. Might be a different thing for us though. The noise and atmosphere generated by British football crowds is commonly cited as unique by foreign players playing here. The best thing O'Neill did at Villa was putting home support behind the goal at the North Stand end. As has been said, Villa Park three quarters full can be a sad place, I'd hate to see that effect multiplied. If we did expand, filling in some corners to contain the atmosphere and maybe leaving higher tiers closed for unpopular fixtures might help, I guess.
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The smart thing to have done would have been to arrange some kind of deal with the future rebuilt Alexander Stadium so we move in there for a year starting 2022 while Villa Park gets 2 new stands built and everything in and around the stadium is sorted properly rather than a rush job or just bits and pieces at a time.
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Does anyone have any experience of the relocation day? I only want to move one seat to the left, one of the three of us couldn’t renew and his ticket was in the middle. How busy does it get, is there any benefit in getting there half an hour early?
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Let’s reinstate the old Witton End; dirt bank, terracing, Bovril kiosk and all.
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The smart thing to have done would have been to arrange some kind of deal with the future rebuilt Alexander Stadium so we move in there for a year starting 2022 while Villa Park gets 2 new stands built and everything in and around the stadium is sorted properly rather than a rush job or just bits and pieces at a time.
I dislike the Witton stand as much as anyone and the concourses are an absolute joke. But I'm not sure how we can rebuild it any bigger when we are restricted by the road and houses behind it?
For me the long term vision should to be a horse shoe Trinity, North, Witton facing the mighty Holte (yes a larger single tier would be nice, but it's not a priority given the rest of the ground). I know some don't like corners filled in but if we want capacity maximised I don't see how we can avoid it. As for air flow for the pitch, whilst it would restrict it the majority of modern stadia around the world have the corners filled in and seem to manage.
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The smart thing to have done would have been to arrange some kind of deal with the future rebuilt Alexander Stadium so we move in there for a year starting 2022 while Villa Park gets 2 new stands built and everything in and around the stadium is sorted properly rather than a rush job or just bits and pieces at a time.
I dislike the Witton stand as much as anyone and the concourses are an absolute joke. But I'm not sure how we can rebuild it any bigger when we are restricted by the road and houses behind it?
For me the long term vision should to be a horse shoe Trinity, North, Witton facing the mighty Holte (yes a larger single tier would be nice, but it's not a priority given the rest of the ground). I know some don't like corners filled in but if we want capacity maximised I don't see how we can avoid it. As for air flow for the pitch, whilst it would restrict it the majority of modern stadia around the world have the corners filled in and seem to manage.
I think a properly designed Witton Lane stand could probably have an additional 1500-2000 seats without too much difficulty. Thanks to the cheapskate way Ellis went about building it in the first place, the front row of the stand could be move forward by 2-3 metres, and then designed together with an overhanging second tier you could probably get quite a few more rows in the current footprint. I'm sure it could be designed with a better roof using modern materials as well to help with the right to light issues, so potentially the seating area could go a bit higher.
Any significant increase in overall capacity would though mean having more of a horseshoe design. If we did all of this you could probably get to a comfortable capacity in the mid 50k range, which I think would be about right in the long-term. As to when we do it, that will always be a risk. I would say, however, that despite what figures they report, clubs like Arsenal and Man City are not filling their grounds every week so I don't think we should beat ourselves up about having empty seats at some games - a properly designed stadium could help with the atmosphere anyway.
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How is the atmosphere at the Camp Nou for run of the mill games, does anyone know?
Absolutely crap.
I was there a few years ago for a game against one of the perrenial strugglers in La Liga - Rayo Vallecano or someone like that - spoke to a "member" on the metro over there before the game and asked him what he thought the result would be. "Four or five nil" came the response, completely matter-of-factly.
Barca won 3-0 in the end. Messi scored 2. And the crowd sat there in near silence (except for the 30 seconds after each goal) just waiting for and expecting the inevitable thrashing to be dished out.
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Does anyone have any experience of the relocation day? I only want to move one seat to the left, one of the three of us couldn’t renew and his ticket was in the middle. How busy does it get, is there any benefit in getting there half an hour early?
I’ve only relocated over the phone which was pretty easy and probably the easiest way for you too as you already know what you want.
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Does anyone have any experience of the relocation day? I only want to move one seat to the left, one of the three of us couldn’t renew and his ticket was in the middle. How busy does it get, is there any benefit in getting there half an hour early?
I posted earlier with regard to my son's similar dilemma.
We got in touch with the ticket office, and they were happy to move his friend from the Holte to the North under the provision that we got written, signed permission from the original seat holder that he wasn't renewing.
Maybe worth trying a similar approach
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Does anyone have any experience of the relocation day? I only want to move one seat to the left, one of the three of us couldn’t renew and his ticket was in the middle. How busy does it get, is there any benefit in getting there half an hour early?
I posted earlier with regard to my son's similar dilemma.
We got in touch with the ticket office, and they were happy to move his friend from the Holte to the North under the provision that we got written, signed permission from the original seat holder that he wasn't renewing.
Maybe worth trying a similar approach
Thanks, I’ll give them a call tomorrow.
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The smart thing to have done would have been to arrange some kind of deal with the future rebuilt Alexander Stadium so we move in there for a year starting 2022 while Villa Park gets 2 new stands built and everything in and around the stadium is sorted properly rather than a rush job or just bits and pieces at a time.
Totally agree with you. A long term strategy for development is essential. For now a total rebuild of the North stand is vital. It's one of the worst "ends" in the premier league and no longer befitting our status as a top flight club. A shiny new stand holding 11/12,000 should be a straightforward task adding 4/5000 to the capacity without the need to fill in the corners. This would give Villa Park a much needed facelift and bring the capacity to around 47,000. It's a total no brainer for me. In the long term the stadium infrastructure and facilities can be addressed by proper careful planning.
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I would like to see us expand and accept the North Stand is in the firing line, but I don't get the hate for it, I think it's a brutalist masterpiece.
Plus hardly anyone was building stands in that area, it's kind of unique.
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I would like to see us expand and accept the North Stand is in the firing line, but I don't get the hate for it, I think it's a brutalist masterpiece.
Plus hardly anyone was building stands in that area, it's kind of unique.
The goalpost design was groundbreaking at the time but that was in the 70's. Things have moved on a tad since. The facilities are appalling and leg room is horrendous. The view however from the upper section is pretty damn good. But looking at it from the outside with the grubby rough finish to the concrete and those dark red window frames it just looks horrible. A brutalist masterpiece you say, surely thats a contradiction in terms? Only kidding each to their own and all that but in my view it had its day 25 years ago.
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It's fairly brutal alright.
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The design of the North stand lasted about 10 years tops before it looked dated. In some ways it is iconic as I’m struggling to think of many others like it but it should be pulled down and buried in our history. I’ve sat in it I think three times in my supporting life and it makes the Witton Lane stand seem luxurious it’s that bad.
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I would like to see us expand and accept the North Stand is in the firing line, but I don't get the hate for it, I think it's a brutalist masterpiece.
Plus hardly anyone was building stands in that area, it's kind of unique.
I'm with you. It was the blueprint for so many other clubs' stands and led the way in may aspects of stadium design - The "AV" lettering in the seats was the first at a football ground, double decker executive boxes were a first, the "goal post" design. Within a few years of it being built, similar design aspects from the North stand seemed to spring up all over the country - Forest, Sheffield United, Spurs.....
It's small, cramped and out dated but when it's gone, it's gone forever.
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Good, its shit.
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I would like us to do something with the back of the Trinity. All that metal sheeting is
so ugly . Surely we could replace this with images of players and managers of the
past . but in almost like a silver foil format, as they do with the coins??
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Good, its shit.
Good point well made
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I would like to see us expand and accept the North Stand is in the firing line, but I don't get the hate for it, I think it's a brutalist masterpiece.
Plus hardly anyone was building stands in that area, it's kind of unique.
It’s a Picasso in a world full of Constable’s
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I appreciate beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but sadly it's not just something we just look at; people pay to sit in it, and it's an absolute dump.
The facade is ugly but that's trivial really, it's the shocking state of the concourses and toilets that bother me.
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There's nothing good about it at all. It looks terrible from the outside of the ground, and the facilities inside are awful.
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I remember saying "it was nice" when it was built but my memory's not that good so I could have been mistaken
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To be fair it looked the bees when first built. The major issues though have been :
1. Extremely poor access with the corridor at the back of the lower Witton Road
2. The introduction of seats - the stand was built similar to the Stoke End at Victoria Park or the Scoreboard at OT
Turned out not be such a success, along the same lines as the new clock end at Highbury or the rebuilt Platt Lane at Maine Road. Still a better stand though than the Park End at Goodison or the Anfield Road at the dippers.
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I remember saying "it was nice" when it was built but my memory's not that good so I could have been mistaken
Lulz, sounds like something from a meme.
Can BE come up with a new hybrid thread title to be used seeing as those wanting season-ticket holder info will be frustrated by the more interesting stadium redevelopment talk?
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There's nothing good about it at all. It looks terrible from the outside of the ground, and the facilities inside are awful.
Yes it’s also a complete waste of the space available.
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Are we getting a museum/hotel or something along those lines?
Apologies if posted elsewhere.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/revealed-more-details-aston-villas-16503309
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Been on hold for 20 odd minutes trying to move my lad's seat closer to us. Guessing there wont be too many season ticketseft after today.
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Waited in hour in the queue and got to move to the seat i wanted. Job done
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And they've just cut me off.
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And again after another 10 minutes on hold.
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It’s frustrating. Im guessing you couldn’t get down there today?
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And again after another 10 minutes on hold.
Same here, anyone any idea what the queue is like at the ground?
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I'm on an endless cycle of 10 minutes hold and being cut off when it starts ringing. This is a tad frustrating.
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I'm on an endless cycle of 10 minutes hold and being cut off when it starts ringing. This is a tad frustrating.
Twice now I have got to the menu options only for it to go dead once I have navigated through.
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Yeah same. Tella you to put your Fan ID in and the just goes silent for a time and then cuts you off. Pretty poor stuff this.
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This is a fucking shambles.
Has anyone got through?
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Yeah fiiiiiiinally sorted moving my boy's seat.
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I’m not trying to relocate
but I have had that being cut if thing it’s infuriating
sometimes you can be holding for 20 mins then just dead
the one time I managed to get through the lady in the ticket office said yeah we have been having problems think its the new phone system
it ain’t good enough
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Finally! Gave up this morning but just tried again and got straight through.
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Has anyone who is on the waiting list had the email yet saying they can buy? Checked profile on the ticketing site and it says season ticket waiting list 27793 so hopefully that means I’m in with a chance.
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Can you guys not email Nicky Keye or the General about this stuff?
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The club really needs to sort this out. It was poor that you couldn't renew your ST several weeks after the play-off final. It's the poor communication that really annoys people, there's no excuse for that and no way to treat paying customers.
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On the negative side of poor comms, given the waiting list and 30,000 sold hype of previous week you’d have thought they would be tweeting celebrating new records set by now
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The waiting list has to buy the season tickets first.
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The club really needs to sort this out. It was poor that you couldn't renew your ST several weeks after the play-off final. It's the poor communication that really annoys people, there's no excuse for that and no way to treat paying customers.
It's all Doug's fault.
It will all be much better when he's gone.
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This would not have happened under Steve Bruce. All season ticket holders would be “there or there about” for next season.
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Relocated mine from Doug Ellis to Trinity Rd I must say that the staff in the ticket office have been great, the temp close down in ticket office was obviously to get the prices changed from early bird to prem. How nice it is to see the upsurge in support & fans returning now we are up,
the potential for sell outs is there let’s hope we can stay up & the club will have to seriously consider expanding the capacity
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The club really needs to sort this out. It was poor that you couldn't renew your ST several weeks after the play-off final. It's the poor communication that really annoys people, there's no excuse for that and no way to treat paying customers.
It's all Doug's fault.
It will all be much better when he's gone.
You're obviously not a ST holder
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This would not have happened under Steve Bruce. All season ticket holders would be “there or there about” for next season.
"That's the championship" *wistful look*
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So, what is the situation now?
Relocation day is done, so all holders from last season who renewed (early bird or not) are done, I take it they will start selling them now until they get to 30k?
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I guess they start contacting people on the waiting list?
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Probably but would be nice if we all knew if the magic 30k had been hit. Just another poor or delayed comms reaction....
Unless we’re concentrating on a player announcement every day for a week 😳
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I popped into the ticket office today, the lady was helpful but a bit vague. All she could say was she thought the those on the waiting list would hear fairly soon and that if you got on the list early enough you should get one. If you’d signed up over the last few days you probably wouldn’t
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Just a quick warning about memberships. Last year, I bought my son a Cub membership and I was able to buy both of us (and sometimes his sister) a ticket on his membership but it is now strictly one member one ticket. The club should make it that you can only buy a Cub membership if it's linked to a Claret membership. I've now paid £35 for a Clarets membership... and I don't even get a birthday card like my children do.
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I signed up to the waiting list the day it was announced and my profile on the ticketing site has me listed as 27793, so hopefully I will hear soon. I added my wife and son yesterday and there’ numbers are a lot higher around the 34000 mark.. So if the numbers on the site relate to where you are on the list then I reckon I’ve got a chance of getting one.
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The waiting list outstrips supply by some margin.
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If you go to the OS, click through to tickets then season tickets to the page where you put yourself into the waiting list, it actually says how many seats are available (assume these are the seats people on the list are in effect queueing up to buy)
Currently says 1,167. This figure is updated as it was 1,175 when I spotted it last night.
Suggests 28,833 sold thus far.
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I don’t suppose anyone could post the ST prices from the early bird window (before the recent price increase) could they please?
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Early Bird prices (https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/02/15/season-tickets-2019-20-launch)
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Now open for purchase to the first 1k who registered their interest, this window closes in 5 days.
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Now open for purchase to the first 1k who registered their interest, this window closes in 5 days.
I think that's a sensible way of dealing with it.
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Early Bird prices (https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/02/15/season-tickets-2019-20-launch)
Thanks
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If you go to the OS, click through to tickets then season tickets to the page where you put yourself into the waiting list, it actually says how many seats are available (assume these are the seats people on the list are in effect queueing up to buy)
Currently says 1,167. This figure is updated as it was 1,175 when I spotted it last night.
Suggests 28,833 sold thus far.
You're more or less spot on Paulie. They've announced they're opening it to the first 1000 fans on the waiting list.
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What's the story with non-season tickets? Assuming 30,000 ST's are sold, how are the remaining 9,000-odd home seats batched?
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There's only 8,000 and that includes the players tickets and competition winners.
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Members will get 1st dibs......….
There will be minimal available on a match day IMO
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Sounds like we need a bigger ground...
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Quite.
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More than anything, we need a strong squad and a good team.
Flip side of much bigger crowds = much bigger expectations!
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I think the demand for tickets will cool down once the realities of the PL kick back in.
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And will rise further when we're 10 points clear at the top at Christmas.
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I think the demand for tickets will cool down once the realities of the PL kick back in.
That was pretty much said about the novelty of the Championship wearing off aswell.
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And will rise further when we're 10 points clear at the top at Christmas.
Too right. Have that O'Leary.
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Sounds like we need a bigger ground...
Quite.
I draw parallels with the NFL, and now with MLB. If you want to grow, despite telly, paying punters have to be able to watch you play in the flesh.
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Got mine and the lads today we were queue 27340 ish in the waiting list so I’m guessing there was about 3000 tickets left when they stopped selling and opened the waiting list.
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Are some stands totally gone, how does it work out, a proportion of seats held back in every stand?
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Are some stands totally gone, how does it work out, a proportion of seats held back in every stand?
No, it'll simply be a set number of people allowed to buy any available seat in any block they wish. I can't imagine any seats anywhere being available/unavailable.
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Are some stands totally gone, how does it work out, a proportion of seats held back in every stand?
No stands are sold out yet but plenty of sections within them are.
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I should imagine that there will be quite a few games where we fail to sell out, I agree with Chrisw1, if we lose a few on the bounce then crowds and interest will drop.
Last season until the appointment of Smith crowds were starting to drop.
It will be interesting to see if there is still a waiting list for season tickets - next summer?
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Crowds didn't drop under Smith during the poor run in the 2md division.
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Crowds didn't drop under Smith during the poor run in the 2md division.
There was a bit of grumbling around me here and there in L3 and one bloke had a total screaming meltdown near us about 4-4-2 after the 2-2 with Hull but most people whilst wearily resigning themselves to another season in the 2nd tier kept positive I felt despite results.
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I think the demand for tickets will cool down once the realities of the PL kick back in.
And when we lose the first ten Deano will get the sack. Once the crowds dwindle it will be easier to get an overpriced pie at half time.The new owners will get fed up and sell the ground to a scrap metal dealers.
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I think the demand for tickets will cool down once the realities of the PL kick back in.
And when we lose the first ten Deano will get the sack. Once the crowds dwindle it will be easier to get an overpriced pie at half time.The new owners will get fed up and sell the ground to a scrap metal dealers.
I sense your sarcasm here. It’s just a personal opinion, may be right may be wrong but I can’t recall us selling out for any sustained period in the Ellis or Lerner years before relegation and would be quite surprised if we do once normality kicks back in.
Obviously if we have huge success quickly that will change things.
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If you go to the OS, click through to tickets then season tickets to the page where you put yourself into the waiting list, it actually says how many seats are available (assume these are the seats people on the list are in effect queueing up to buy)
Currently says 1,167. This figure is updated as it was 1,175 when I spotted it last night.
Suggests 28,833 sold thus far.
Currently saying 943 available. So 224 of the first 1,000 on the waiting list have followed up with a purchase.
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I think the demand for tickets will cool down once the realities of the PL kick back in.
And when we lose the first ten Deano will get the sack. Once the crowds dwindle it will be easier to get an overpriced pie at half time.The new owners will get fed up and sell the ground to a scrap metal dealers.
I sense your sarcasm here. It’s just a personal opinion, may be right may be wrong but I can’t recall us selling out for any sustained period in the Ellis or Lerner years before relegation and would be quite surprised if we do once normality kicks back in.
Obviously if we have huge success quickly that will change things.
Fine. But my opinion is i don't understand why anyone would want to put a dampner on the current wave of optimism.
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Well people were discussing the long term availability of match day tickets and the merits of extending the stadium. The comment was made in that context, not just to piss on your optimism. I can assure you no one will be happier than me if were challenging for top 6 in the next two seasons and selling out every game. I just think it more likely that once we've settled back in there will be generally tickets available for those who want them.
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I honestly hope not, chrisw1. If it does start to happen, for me it'll seem that once more, other clubs are leaving us trailing off the pitch.
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Well people were discussing the long term availability of match day tickets and the merits of extending the stadium. The comment was made in that context, not just to piss on your optimism. I can assure you no one will be happier than me if were challenging for top 6 in the next two seasons and selling out every game. I just think it more likely that once we've settled back in there will be generally tickets available for those who want them.
Don't you think theres something different about the current set up? Aren't you excited by events happening in B6? We now have extremely wealthy owners. Fantastic backroom team with Purslow & Pitarch. A first team coach (not manager) and his assistants who want to play an attractive swashbuckling style of football. Theres something in the air this time around and "settling back in" won't cut it.
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If you go to the OS, click through to tickets then season tickets to the page where you put yourself into the waiting list, it actually says how many seats are available (assume these are the seats people on the list are in effect queueing up to buy)
Currently says 1,167. This figure is updated as it was 1,175 when I spotted it last night.
Suggests 28,833 sold thus far.
Currently saying 943 available. So 224 of the first 1,000 on the waiting list have followed up with a purchase.
That number should be a lot higher but the website doesn’t work and it’s almost impossible to get through to the ticket office.
I reckon there will be a big queue at the ticket office tomorrow.
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Can someone explain how you buy and sell unused season tickets
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Can someone explain how you buy and sell unused season tickets
I don’t think it’s been announced yet.
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Can someone explain how you buy and sell unused season tickets
For the last couple of seasons, people in my area have just passed season cards around if they can't make games* and not asked for money. Only really works if you know people pretty well.
If there's an official re-sale system in place for this season, it'll be interesting to see if that continues. We're in a prime spot behind the dugout, so tickets should be popular online
(* apart from one bloke who only turns up for around half the matches. He never seems to pass his ticket on to anyone)
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Can someone explain how you buy and sell unused season tickets
For the last couple of seasons, people in my area have just passed season cards around if they can't make games* and not asked for money. Only really works if you know people pretty well.
If there's an official re-sale system in place for this season, it'll be interesting to see if that continues. We're in a prime spot behind the dugout, so tickets should be popular online
(* apart from one bloke who only turns up for around half the matches. He never seems to pass his ticket on to anyone)
I am expecting to be in the UK more often but know that there are many times that I won’t. So I thought if I buy a ticket I can get some money back for the games I miss.
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Be interesting to see if there's a limit on the number of games you can resell.
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Any updates as to how far off 30,000 we are yet after the second 1000 on waiting list were given access ?
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Any updates as to how far off 30,000 we are yet after the second 1000 on waiting list were given access ?
700
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Can someone explain how you buy and sell unused season tickets
For the last couple of seasons, people in my area have just passed season cards around if they can't make games* and not asked for money. Only really works if you know people pretty well.
If there's an official re-sale system in place for this season, it'll be interesting to see if that continues. We're in a prime spot behind the dugout, so tickets should be popular online
(* apart from one bloke who only turns up for around half the matches. He never seems to pass his ticket on to anyone)
You could always get around the resale thing anyway.
When i couldn't make a game, I'd pass my ticket onto someone at work, more often that not by ringing the Ticket Office and asking for it be disabled for that game and a print at home ticket emailed to me instead.
Theoretically, I could (although it would have infinged terms and conditions) have flogged it.
None of which addresses your point, so I don't really know why i am blathering about it
I seem to remember the last time we had an official re-sale partner, the money you'd get for your seat was so piss poor, it was barely worth the hassle getting it listed.
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Starting to sell fast now under 600 left.
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So circa 29.5k sold?
More session ticket holders than the Noses, Small Heath and even Wim Massive Wanderers have had home support in their grounds in 40 odd years.
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Starting to sell fast now under 600 left.
Which is pretty excellent - nearly 29,500 sold and will probably hit 30,000 in next few days. Still some very good seats left too, even in the Holte.
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Starting to sell fast now under 600 left.
I don't think that figure on that page is correct, actually, having looked at it a bit more. Shortly after i posted about it, i noticed it fluctuated both down and up, so I wouldn't pay too much attention to it.
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Starting to sell fast now under 600 left.
Which is pretty excellent - nearly 29,500 sold and will probably hit 30,000 in next few days. Still some very good seats left too, even in the Holte.
How can you see what seats are left?
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Starting to sell fast now under 600 left.
Which is pretty excellent - nearly 29,500 sold and will probably hit 30,000 in next few days. Still some very good seats left too, even in the Holte.
How can you see what seats are left?
Click on register your interest for season ticket waiting list on this page and at the top it says how many available (currently 532) - although not sure if accurate given Paulie's comment above.
https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/subscriptions
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Whatever the figure it's great to see..what a time to be alive!!
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Given that there's a waiting list of 'x' thousands and only 700 odd available, why wouldn't all those available be snapped up pretty much immediately?
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Starting to sell fast now under 600 left.
I don't think that figure on that page is correct, actually, having looked at it a bit more. Shortly after i posted about it, i noticed it fluctuated both down and up, so I wouldn't pay too much attention to it.
I think it's fluctuating with people putting them in their baskets but not completing for whatever reason. That's my guess anyway.
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As a non-ST holder, are any of the stands looking completely sold out with STs at this point?
I have a claret membership but I'm wondering if I'll be able to get into the Holte this season.
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As a non-ST holder, are any of the stands looking completely sold out with STs at this point?
I have a claret membership but I'm wondering if I'll be able to get into the Holte this season.
There's still quite a few left on the Hote
k3 - 57
K4 - 32
K5 - 42
K2 & K6 - both over 80
scattering of seats in the lower too.
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1401 email
“We've opened up our Season Ticket waiting list to the first 3000 fans who were registered - if you're reading this, then you're one of them!”
1420 got for me and dad (via some mid baby photo shoot disagreement about cost, and grief for being on my phone, apparently time sensitive doesn’t cut it!). First time since the 80s we’ve had STs. Happy man :)
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Back up to 633 now. I suspect most people on the waiting list who actually want a ticket will get one.
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I was in the waiting list for the extra 2000 that were released today and managed to get two together in the Lower Holte.
Do they keep tickets back in each stand for matchday sales, because at this rate any non-season ticket holder will really struggle to get any ticket at all in the Holte week to week next year.
The thought for me of not being able to get a ticket in the Holte was a driving force in me getting a season ticket. I stood with my dad in the Holte when first coming to watch the Villa and had a season ticket for 15+ years in the stand but circumstance and becoming a dad myself had meant I have just been going to 10 odd games a season for the last four [but always the Holte End]
Considering they have different matchday prices, for all stands, it would be a real shame if people on an individual match basis only essentially have the choice of two side stands and not have the opportunity to sit in the Holte End [if this is where they wanted to sit].
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As a non-ST holder, are any of the stands looking completely sold out with STs at this point?
I have a claret membership but I'm wondering if I'll be able to get into the Holte this season.
There's still quite a few left on the Hote
k3 - 57
K4 - 32
K5 - 42
K2 & K6 - both over 80
scattering of seats in the lower too.
Are they likely to allow the Holte to completely sell out to season ticket holders or hold back a few thousand seats for those who can't commit to a season ticket? I'll be getting claret membership but would be nice to know that I have at least some chance of getting a seat in the Holte.
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There's no way there will be a few thousand general sale seats in the Holte. Right now the ground map is showing 220 left in the lower and 320 in the upper. Loads left in the upper Trinity.
The waiting list page is showing 635 more season tickets available for purchase in total. It was showing c1,180 when the first waiting list allocation was opened up and another 2,000 on the waiting list were allowed to buy from today (so the first 3,000 on the waiting list have had an opportunity to buy).
I think the capping and creating the waiting list was excellent marketing by the club, I reckon it will have fuelled a lot of extra wavering renewals / new purchases. I guess we'll just about get to the 30k cap (or thereabouts).
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Holte was pretty much sold out for every game after xmas last year.
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I think the capping and creating the waiting list was excellent marketing by the club, I reckon it will have fuelled a lot of extra wavering renewals / new purchases. I guess we'll just about get to the 30k cap (or thereabouts).
Yep. I think taking it for granted that you can get a ticket has gone out of the window, the fear of demand exceeding supply augmenting the brave new world of DS’s AV and a few players we genuinely love, together with a few life changes has certainly pushed me over the line.
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Can someone explain how you buy and sell unused season tickets
For the last couple of seasons, people in my area have just passed season cards around if they can't make games* and not asked for money. Only really works if you know people pretty well.
If there's an official re-sale system in place for this season, it'll be interesting to see if that continues. We're in a prime spot behind the dugout, so tickets should be popular online
(* apart from one bloke who only turns up for around half the matches. He never seems to pass his ticket on to anyone)
You could always get around the resale thing anyway.
When i couldn't make a game, I'd pass my ticket onto someone at work, more often that not by ringing the Ticket Office and asking for it be disabled for that game and a print at home ticket emailed to me instead.
Theoretically, I could (although it would have infinged terms and conditions) have flogged it.
None of which addresses your point, so I don't really know why i am blathering about it
I seem to remember the last time we had an official re-sale partner, the money you'd get for your seat was so piss poor, it was barely worth the hassle getting it listed.
According to the FAQ 1/23rd of the ST value if they sell:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/Tickets/season-tickets/season-tickets-faqs
Will I be able to sell my seat via a seat resale programme for games I cannot attend?
Supporters have the benefit of being able to sell their seat using the clubs seat resale programme for matches they are unable to attend.
Supporters can list tickets in advance and may receive 1/23rd of the cost of their season ticket back as a BACS payment subject to seat being resold.
More information will be communicated before the new season.
Which is a lot more helpful than the answer to the genuine question I had, eg before buying some stuff (glossing over the existential issue of what it is to *be* the ticket itself)
Are there any additional benefits to being a season ticket?
There are many additional benefits of being a season ticket holder for 2019/20.
Right, thanks for that.
Anyone able to fill in the detail? (and don’t just type yes ;)
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I apologise for “butting in” to this thread, but do we know when the season tickets are being sent out to us?
Alan
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I apologise for “butting in” to this thread, but do we know when the season tickets are being sent out to us?
Alan
If you had one last year, I think you just re-use the same card
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I apologise for “butting in” to this thread, but do we know when the season tickets are being sent out to us?
Alan
If you had one last year, I think you just re-use the same card
Unless you've moved seat
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I apologise for “butting in” to this thread, but do we know when the season tickets are being sent out to us?
Alan
"In July", was what I was told.
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Thank you all who replied. I renewed in February, and you don’t get any reassurance that everything is fine - and you do wonder. Computers and people are both fallible. It would appear that as I’m continuing in my old seat, my existing season ticket should work.
Alan
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I was one of those wavering who renewed because of the ‘waiting list’.
I was just going to see how many games I actually got to this year (now that I live 130 miles away again) and get a season ticket again next year if it ended up being most of them.
I have now had to go the other way - get my season ticket this year and give it up next year if I am not really using it or it’s becoming a chore.
I was also previously working on the basis that we’ve always been able to get Wembley tickets for people on a 5 game booking history tops. With 30000 ST holders those days are gone!
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Last year I was an away member and a home season ticket holder. I missed one away game and 3 home games. I would be certain there are new season ticket holders this year who have got tickets just to see the ‘Big Games’. How dare they use money to jump the queue for home tickets. Let’s hope the club strip them of their tickets if they miss a few games and then tarnish the rest of the ST holders with the same brush😉
Or maybe they'll offer the same scheme for re selling to away members that season ticket holders have?
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Yes I can see the club doing that, maybe even sending stewards to eject them from their seats.
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Last year I was an away member and a home season ticket holder. I missed one away game and 3 home games. I would be certain there are new season ticket holders this year who have got tickets just to see the ‘Big Games’. How dare they use money to jump the queue for home tickets. Let’s hope the club strip them of their tickets if they miss a few games and then tarnish the rest of the ST holders with the same brush😉
Or maybe they'll offer the same scheme for re selling to away members that season ticket holders have?
I see what you're getting at there. There will never be a consensus on the away ticket scheme but for me having a 'closed shop' cannot possibly be the answer, however great it is for those locked in. It's a different scenario if you're bagsying one of 42,000 seats as opposed to one of 2,000 seats.
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On buying our claret memberships was told the packs would be delivered in 4 weeks but still nothing arrived, anyone else ?
Also quite a few clubs have tickets on sale for first home and away games and we haven’t for either..... any ideas what is going on ?
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Now saying only 92 seats left for the waiting list. So we've just about done the 30k Well played Villa.
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On buying our claret memberships was told the packs would be delivered in 4 weeks but still nothing arrived, anyone else ?
Also quite a few clubs have tickets on sale for first home and away games and we haven’t for either..... any ideas what is going on ?
Haven't got my Claret membership either, though only bought 2 and a half weeks ago.
I think the club are still figuring out fair ways to cope with the excess ticketing demand. I don't mind giving them a bit more time to get it right, but hopefully we can get cracking in the next few weeks.
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No away season ticket this year. But those with most games last season get to buy first.
I think this has to be the most reasonable solution. Will still be difficult for younger fans to build an away history though.
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“The club can now confirm plans for our away ticket sales for the upcoming 2019/20 season.
“After consulting extensively with supporters – and also following a benchmarking process with other clubs – we’ve made some changes.
“Under new procedures, in order to be fair, transparent and reward loyalty, away ticket criteria will be based on attendance at previous away games from the 2018/19 season as we also withdraw our away season ticket scheme.
“The new sales criteria will start at season ticket holders who attended 18+ away games last season all the way through to general sale, with 15+, 12+, 9+, Season Ticket Holders and Claret/Cub members in between.
“The first game of the season – away at Tottenham Hotspur – will go on sale next Thursday from 5pm online, subject to allocation and pricing being confirmed in the coming days by the host club.
“We appreciate that while this new policy rewards loyalty, it means that it also potentially makes it difficult for a lot of eager fans to attend big Premier League matches on the road.
“Therefore, 25 pairs of away tickets for each top-flight game will be made available on Pride Rewards for supporters via a Prize Draw, starting with the clash against Mauricio Pochettino’s Spurs. Winners of the Prize Draw will then have the opportunity to purchase a pair of tickets.
“We understand that some fans will be disappointed there is no away season ticket scheme for this season but we believe this to be the fairest way to allocate away tickets to supporters who wish to follow us on the road.”
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No away season ticket this year. But those with most games last season get to buy first.
I think this has to be the most reasonable solution. Will still be difficult for younger fans to build an away history though.
Not as difficult as it was before when people who were on a ‘scheme’ took all the tickets whether they were going or not and just passed/sold them on if they weren’t.
No away scheme is definitely the best solution. Those that go to all the games have clear priority. Those who go to most of them are next, and then those half a dozen games that those who go to most games don’t go to, are freed up for the more casual away fans.
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Does this make Bournemouth a lottery now?
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Love the asumption that people in the away schem used to buy tickets and sell them on and non away scheme members never did that in order to retain a high away ticket status.
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Love the asumption that people in the away schem used to buy tickets and sell them on and non away scheme members never did that in order to retain a high away ticket status.
Loads of people on the away scheme went to all of the games, many more went to nearly all of them.
Not having an away scheme doesn’t actually PREVENT people maintaining a history by passing tickets on, but there’s a pretty good chance it reduces the likelihood against what happens when tickets just land in your mat. If you are in a scheme that prevents you returning more than 4 sets of tickets that are routinely sent out to you, & the demand is there, then you are far more likely to pass them on to someone you know, or sell them to someone you don’t, than return them. Simple human nature.
......& it’s not an assumption - for at least 2 seasons before I queue jumped with the barmy away scheme last year, the only way I ever got to an away game was getting my tickets passed on to me by people in the away scheme who weren’t going!
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Well said amfy and absolutely the correct decision by the club.
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I am deliberately a member of about 20 Lions clubs just in case for away tickets!
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Love the asumption that people in the away schem used to buy tickets and sell them on and non away scheme members never did that in order to retain a high away ticket status.
It does happen but not on the same percentages of resales from people who were in the scheme
Aq
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I'm just happy that I got my turn on the waiting list today and will be there all next season.
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Got my first ever season ticket today plus one for my eldest boy. In the whole of the Lower Doug we had the choice of two places where there was more than one seat available.
Delighted to have them and almost MDC Jnr's favourite spot for good measure.
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Wow, wen the 4 claret memberships in our family arrive, we won’t be sitting in lower DE then , where we used to on occasions ! Sounds like we’ll have choice in upper trinity alone getting 4 next to each other other .....anyone else who can see availability with info would be appreciated so we can start to have discussions about where to try and purchase please ?
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I can't access the availability plan any more, but yep upper Trinity will be pretty much the only place for four together. You'd probably get 2 x 2's in the Holte wings.
edit - actually this link should work
https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/subscriptions/2019-20%20season%20ticket?hallmap
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I can't access the availability plan any more, but yep upper Trinity will be pretty much the only place for four together. You'd probably get 2 x 2's in the Holte wings.
edit - actually this link should work
https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/subscriptions/2019-20%20season%20ticket?hallmap
Thanks for the link Chris.
Assuming that every seat was eligible for ST purchase, it's going to be a bit of a mad scramble for match day tickets!
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They have now hit the 30k cap. Well played by the marketing team.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/07/16/season-ticket-cap-reached
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I can't access the availability plan any more, but yep upper Trinity will be pretty much the only place for four together. You'd probably get 2 x 2's in the Holte wings.
edit - actually this link should work
https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/subscriptions/2019-20%20season%20ticket?hallmap
Brilliant Chris exactly what i needed thanks
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So if season ticket limit has been reached and if my quick maths is correct, then there’s approx 281 seats up for grabs in the Holte to non season ticket holders?
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So if season ticket limit has been reached and if my quick maths is correct, then there’s approx 281 seats up for grabs in the Holte to non season ticket holders?
Yes, that’s my understanding . I wish they would hurry up and show matchday prices and when games were going on sale. Last years are still on the website. Gonna be only level 1 or 2 price tickets for me as need 4 together....me thinks pricey !
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Bought my Claret Membership last night...it says on the ticket office that it takes 28 days so does that mean I’ll be unable to buy tickets for Bournemouth and Everton or will the membership be recognised online?
Edit: just checked again and that’s for the membership pack, so presume tickets will be available once they release details.
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Bought my Claret Membership last night...it says on the ticket office that it takes 28 days so does that mean I’ll be unable to buy tickets for Bournemouth and Everton or will the membership be recognised online?
Edit: just checked again and that’s for the membership pack, so presume tickets will be available once they release details.
Should go straight onto your fan ID, so will be there when you log in online. Certainly was last season.
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So the criteria for away sales being discussed in a ticket thread but I was right at start of this thread saying that buying a membership is still only pre general sale. If away criteria is anything to go by Before claret members, ST holders will have an opportunity to purchase additional matchday tickets (Only about 8000) , so not sure many will go claret members let alone general sale . If they are going to base home games criteria before claret members it’s game over !
Having said all that I really hope I’m wrong
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Sorry Daz but there's absolutely no way season ticket holders will be able to purchase additional tickets before anyone else gets chance to !
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Sorry Daz but there's absolutely no way season ticket holders will be able to purchase additional tickets before anyone else gets chance to !
I really hope you are right Richard . I suppose away criteria slightly different as ST holders without booking history get a perk of purchasing their own prior to claret members/general sale . We’ll have to wait and see , if the Bournemouth ones ever get put on sale
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For home games it will be Claret members then general sale.
For away games it will be away booking history (in a few tiers), then season ticket holders (with no or limited away history) then claret members and then general sale. I doubt many away games will get down to people without away history, hence the various 'closed shop' comments.
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Sorry Daz but there's absolutely no way season ticket holders will be able to purchase additional tickets before anyone else gets chance to !
I really hope you are right Richard . I suppose away criteria slightly different as ST holders without booking history get a perk of purchasing their own prior to claret members/general sale . We’ll have to wait and see , if the Bournemouth ones ever get put on sale
For home games it’s claret members first as season ticket holders already have their seat.
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They have now hit the 30k cap. Well played by the marketing team.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/07/16/season-ticket-cap-reached
Doubt it was too difficult. They are hardly marketing SHA
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Matchday tickets and priorities announced. Only 3 categories of game. For best parts of ground, zone A £50 a ticket no concessions. £36 for cat B and £33 for C.
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Home Tickets page does show the Bournemouth game but still has the following as well ::)
(https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/custom/documents/images/The%20Last%20Four%20Match%20Package.jpg)
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Matchday tickets and priorities announced. Only 3 categories of game. For best parts of ground, zone A £50 a ticket no concessions. £36 for cat B and £33 for C.
FIFTY QUID???!!!
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Matchday tickets and priorities announced. Only 3 categories of game. For best parts of ground, zone A £50 a ticket no concessions. £36 for cat B and £33 for C.
FIFTY QUID???!!!
Absolutely DAVE, they know they’ve only got 8000 to sell each game. And the part of the ground with biggest availability , upper trinity is all zone 1 and 2 prices !
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Blimey. £50 is a shocker.
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Seating plan link still goes to last season's info, so I'm not sure what parts of the stadium are what zone for the upcoming season
https://www.avfc.co.uk/club/villa-park/visiting-the-stadium/seating-plan
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I presume that will be for the Upper Trinity but £50 is way too much.
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As mentioned above, the seating plan link for home games still have last season's info. However, I assume that the per-game zones will be the same as the ST zones
(https://d3ix52z2istd7h.cloudfront.net/~/media/Stadium-Pricing-Plan.ashx?la=en&vs=1&d=20190617T111735Z&hash=EE063E41B3011BF1EBE46DF15E59C56F4DFFE213)
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Look like they don’t want to sell those last 8000 tickets then.
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Quick question. I normally do about 10-12 games on average a season. With the season tickets selling out do people think its is it best for me to get a claret membership to get a chance of tickets and is it only one ticket per membership as previously I've bought for two mates who come up from London for the occasional game.
In hindsight this isn't a quick question bit quite longwinded. An advise gratefully received 👍
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The Premier League, welcome back everyone.....
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The Premier League, welcome back everyone.....
Prices for home games go up but prices for away games go down
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Unacceptable pricing, especially in light of the amount of TV money the club's been so excited to receive.
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Quick question. I normally do about 10-12 games on average a season. With the season tickets selling out do people think its is it best for me to get a claret membership to get a chance of tickets and is it only one ticket per membership as previously I've bought for two mates who come up from London for the occasional game.
In hindsight this isn't a quick question bit quite longwinded. An advise gratefully received 👍
Simple answer, yes particularly if you want a ticket for any of the big 6 (small bit of sick in mouth) or Wolvesalona.
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I presume that will be for the Upper Trinity but £50 is way too much.
Well when you see cat A games at £50 for adult is one thing but no concessions for oap's, under 18's and 14's, its really disappointing from a family club point off view
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I presume that will be for the Upper Trinity but £50 is way too much.
Well when you see cat A games at £50 for adult is one thing but no concessions for oap's, under 18's and 14's, its really disappointing from a family club point off view
I've just said as much on Twitter. I know there are other areas of the ground to sit but £50 for OAP, Under 14's etc is wrong.
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Quick question. I normally do about 10-12 games on average a season. With the season tickets selling out do people think its is it best for me to get a claret membership to get a chance of tickets and is it only one ticket per membership as previously I've bought for two mates who come up from London for the occasional game.
In hindsight this isn't a quick question bit quite longwinded. An advise gratefully received 👍
Simple answer, yes particularly if you want a ticket for any of the big 6 (small bit of sick in mouth) or Wolvesalona.
and the other answer is you do need a membership for each individual. Years ago i would buy my daughters and dads on my number as not worried about building ups loyalty but you can't do that any longer
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I would say claret membership is pretty much essential now but with those ticket bandings they may well have priced out a lot of fans or certainly restricted how many games ppl can afford to go to. As an example, if you can only get to 4 games per season then you’re looking at approx £60 per person per game plus any travel and refreshments...that’s an expensive day out whichever way you look at it, so pick your games wisely.
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It's 50 quid for Cat A.
Drop off to 36 quid for Cat B games which isn't "too bad".
For any Cat C game (I'm guessing Watford in midweek in January) 33 quid is top price anywhere in the stadium which in these times is pretty good value.
In all the info on Bournemouth I'm presuming that's a Cat B game as will be Everton and West Ham. Guessing Burnley will be Cat C.
Cat A will be just against top 6 I guess, Wolves and maybe Newcastle given the noise that will surround that fixture so club been from their POV pretty clever in making sure area where there won't be as many season tickets (upper trinity) is created as overflow area for all those who buy on match to match and want to watch those games.
40 quid would've been fairer but it's the way it's done now I'm afraid even with clubs not needing the gate reciepts as much. If the demand is there as it certainly is this summer, clubs will charge top price.
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£50 for category A in the upper Trinity is obscene.
The £36 one seems about par for the course.
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Yep all depends on which games are Cat A. If most games are Cat B then prices are only a few quid on top of last season. Bournemouth is confirmed as Cat B prices in ticket office.
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They'll be 7 Cat A games I'm guessing. Would look silly for club to announce Newcastle as one and then Steve Bruce gets sacked first week of October, then it will just go back to being a clash between two bottom half teams. If he stays that could be one.
Ultimately the club will say they're spending the TV money on creating an exciting team and the inflated wage bill that comes with 100m + spending. You don't just get a cheque for 200m day after play off final so owners will be chipping in aswell.
The one rule at premier league is if there's big demand, fleece the consumer so that's the rules we're now playing with.
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Yep all depends on which games are Cat A. If most games are Cat B then prices are only a few quid on top of last season. Bournemouth is confirmed as Cat B prices in ticket office.
That's probably just because it's the first game of the season. Bournemouth would probably be Cat C in mid-season
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£50 for category A in the upper Trinity is obscene.
It's always surprised me that someone sitting at the back of UTR A4 pays more than me nine rows back in LTR C4
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I won't be paying 50 notes, the Cat A games are the ones I'm not too bothered about attending, fuckin' half and halfers, gloryhunters and Brummie Reds wherever you look.
This is precisely why I was torn about promotion, £20 to sit in a ground full of Villa fans or £50 to sit in a ground half full of "football" fans.
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I won't be paying 50 notes, the Cat A games are the ones I'm not too bothered about attending, fuckin' half and halfers, gloryhunters and Brummie Reds wherever you look.
This is precisely why I was torn about promotion, £20 to sit in a ground full of Villa fans or £50 to sit in a ground half full of "football" fans.
Yes, I remember ten years ago when I got the first season tickets for my son and I we bought half season tickets in the November that were a lot cheaper if you chose not to include three or four category A games which didn't bother me at all. Like Nev says, twattish glory hunters and also the likelihood of defeat.
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Also, for those of us without a season ticket, don't forget the 50p online booking fee. 😂
All those 50p's come in handy for the club, when they're struggling in the Premier League. 😂😂
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Quick question. I normally do about 10-12 games on average a season. With the season tickets selling out do people think its is it best for me to get a claret membership to get a chance of tickets and is it only one ticket per membership as previously I've bought for two mates who come up from London for the occasional game.
In hindsight this isn't a quick question bit quite longwinded. An advise gratefully received 👍
Simple answer, yes particularly if you want a ticket for any of the big 6 (small bit of sick in mouth) or Wolvesalona.
and the other answer is you do need a membership for each individual. Years ago i would buy my daughters and dads on my number as not worried about building ups loyalty but you can't do that any longer
Cheers for that. Looks like I won't be doing many games then this season then with limited tickets available. Pointless my mates buying a membership to be able to only buy the few games they can get to.
I used to buy the odd ticket if I was going on my own via Seatwave but since they were scrapped the club never announced a replacement secondary ticket partner. I always thought it was a good idea for the season ticket holder to be able to sell their ticket if they couldn't attend and tickets were normally reasonably priced sometimes cheaper that purchasing direct from the club.
And £50 without concessions for a cat A games is piss poor from the club.
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I've just bought a claret membership. Mainly so I can get a ticket for the home match with Wolves. That's the one I'm most looking forward to this season. Should be a great atmosphere.
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Also, for those of us without a season ticket, don't forget the 50p online booking fee. 😂
All those 50p's come in handy for the club, when they're struggling in the Premier League. 😂😂
And the £1 postage
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Has anyone experienced a situation where they have somehow ended up with 2 fan I.D.'s & subsequently 2 associated e-mail addresses like I have ? I bought a Claret membership on 9/7 & received the e-mail confirmation but it advises of a follow-up mail which hasn't arrived. When I try to log on with this address there is no record of it but I can on with my other address but of course the Claret membership / fan I.D. won't match ! I have mailed them back but don't expect a quick reply, unreal....
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Does anyone have any information on the re-sale of match tickets through the club for matches that ssn ticket holders can't attend? I was under the illusion that this was something the club was doing this season, yet when I phoned the ticket office today, they said this was not happening. Can anyone clarify please?
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Also, for those of us without a season ticket, don't forget the 50p online booking fee. 😂
All those 50p's come in handy for the club, when they're struggling in the Premier League. 😂😂
Print at home works fine
And the £1 postage
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Does anyone have any information on the re-sale of match tickets through the club for matches that ssn ticket holders can't attend? I was under the illusion that this was something the club was doing this season, yet when I phoned the ticket office today, they said this was not happening. Can anyone clarify please?
There's still a Ticket Exchange link on Pravda that goes to Ticketmaster.
I don't think that Villa have used TicketMaster in the past, so it might be new
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Also, for those of us without a season ticket, don't forget the 50p online booking fee. 😂
All those 50p's come in handy for the club, when they're struggling in the Premier League. 😂😂
Print at home works fine
And the £1 postage
I happily got into the ground last year using my phone display – with the QR code from the PDF nice and big on screen.
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Also, for those of us without a season ticket, don't forget the 50p online booking fee. 😂
All those 50p's come in handy for the club, when they're struggling in the Premier League. 😂😂
Print at home works fine
And the £1 postage
I happily got into the ground last year using my phone display – with the QR code from the PDF nice and big on screen.
No getting away with paying that 50p though. I'd love to know What that covers. 😂
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Tickets going on sale to members for Bournemouth today at 5.
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Just got my ticket for Bournemouth game in the Holte. Completely forgot about the £10 voucher you get with claret membership and this was automatically applied so ticket was only £23...bargain! Looking forward to getting the season off to a good start (hopefully).
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I usually get to 3 or 4 games a season with the lad. With memberships to now buy to even try and get tickets and £50 tickets for some games it's probably going to cost the same as a season ticket when we entertained the likes of Rotherham, Millwall and Reading.
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Has anyone experienced a situation where they have somehow ended up with 2 fan I.D.'s & subsequently 2 associated e-mail addresses like I have ? I bought a Claret membership on 9/7 & received the e-mail confirmation but it advises of a follow-up mail which hasn't arrived. When I try to log on with this address there is no record of it but I can on with my other address but of course the Claret membership / fan I.D. won't match ! I have mailed them back but don't expect a quick reply, unreal....
Just give them a call and have both email addresses/ref # ready, they’ve been very helpful in sorting things out for me, I’d be pretty confident they’ll just merge stuff, have half a memory had to do something similar once...
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Cat A are Liverpool, Man City, Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal, Wolves, Man Utd. 7 games where some fans will be paying £50 to watch a newly promoted team is scandalous in my opinion. As I just put in the ticketing forum, we're not Chelsea whose fans are loaded and we're not Man City who win every week. The jump from £36 to £50 from Cat A to Cat B is ridiculous. In comparison Norwich have capped all their home tickets at £30
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Big thanks and kudos to Lennythekad who has got me two tickets for the game against Bournemouth.
I can't wait to come back home. :)
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There wasn’t any categories last year. The match day tickets were the same for every game....those prices are now the category C prices. Roughly cat B are 10% on top of that and cat A are just huge !
On purchasing Bournemouth tickets tonight I bought 4, assigning the other 3 to family members . System would only take my £10 off and it wouldn’t come off the others. 2 of which are my parents in their 80’s (no e mail or net).
Any idea how I get their £10 off applied in the future ?
I calculated about 4000 tickets went in first half hour tonight
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I calculated about 4000 tickets went in first half hour tonight
Really?
How did you work that out? (Not said confrontationally, genuinely interested).
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Cat A are Liverpool, Man City, Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal, Wolves, Man Utd. 7 games where some fans will be paying £50 to watch a newly promoted team is scandalous in my opinion. As I just put in the ticketing forum, we're not Chelsea whose fans are loaded and we're not Man City who win every week. The jump from £36 to £50 from Cat A to Cat B is ridiculous. In comparison Norwich have capped all their home tickets at £30
Yeah but Norwich have also not spent any money in the transfer market.
We can't get all excited about the expensive players and not expect to spend more money to watch the games.
50 instead of 36 for a PL match against the most watchable teams does not seem insanely spendy to me.
If you are going to suggest tickets should be priced for 'a newly promoted team' then you should also expect to be seeing the transfer market activity of your average newly promoted team.
(Obviously Leeds could put theirs up at £70 and still sell 60,000).
Also - not being funny, but don't you spend most of your time telling us how shit our support is ('OMG! We've only sold 25,000 for Rotherham away! We should shift at least 500,000 for that!)?
If so, you've suddenly found some extenuating circumstances, by the looks of it.
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Has claret membership replaced booking history then?
Thought they'd be period where people who went to 3-5 games last season would get period to buy tickets but seems it's just going straight to general sale in the categories listed.
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Has claret membership replaced booking history then?
Thought they'd be period where people who went to 3-5 games last season would get period to buy tickets but seems it's just going straight to general sale in the categories listed.
I also would have preferred this, but I guess the clubs hands are tied by guaranteeing paid memberships and season tickets a ticket. Money talks.
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Phone lines are rammed.
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would anyone on here have any idea if the Spurs game will get down to season ticket holders with less than 9 aways in other words just ST holders
I don’t suppose it will get anywhere near but just asking the question in case someone knows the numbers
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18+ appears to be a 1000. I imagine that each category is larger than that.
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I calculated about 4000 tickets went in first half hour tonight
Really?
How did you work that out? (Not said confrontationally, genuinely interested).
Quick add up of places left in each section at 5 then again at 5;30
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Are tickets on General Sale or on Sale to 'Claret Members' still seems plenty of Availability in upper Trinity and Doug which has surprised me slightly as I expected those to be snapped up
Considering signing up for membership but will only be able to attend 3-4 matches as being relocated next month
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Are tickets on General Sale or on Sale to 'Claret Members' still seems plenty of Availability in upper Trinity and Doug which has surprised me slightly as I expected those to be snapped up
Considering signing up for membership but will only be able to attend 3-4 matches as being relocated next month
Tickets only on sale to members currently then from Friday to season ticket holders wanting extra tickets. General sale the Friday after that although I doubt there will be many of the 8000 or so left by then.
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Certainly forced my hand to buy membership as I usually go to about half the home games.
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Times are a changing. If you want to definitely get tickets for specific games you want to attend then the only way to more or less guarantee that is to buy claret membership. It costs £35 but you do get £10 off a ticket so the real cost of membership is £25.
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"The problem with success is you become what you detest"
Welcome back to the cash cow that is the premier league
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From a quick look at the source code, if you want to see what's available for Bournemouth but aren't yet eligible, and are getting the greyed out Coming Soon button, you can go to this url and access it.
https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/events/aston%20villa%20v%20bournemouth/2019-8-17_15.00/villa%20park?hallmap
I would assume there will be checks on the server side to stop you buying if you're not eligible yet, but TBH I wouldn't bank on it.
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For those interested, I called to sign up for claret membership today and those will be capped at 10K.Currently on 8 and expected to hit the target so a combined 40K ST Holders / Members . A few hundred Half Memberships will be kept back for Christmas Release
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From a quick look at the source code, if you want to see what's available for Bournemouth but aren't yet eligible, and are getting the greyed out Coming Soon button, you can go to this url and access it.
https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/events/aston%20villa%20v%20bournemouth/2019-8-17_15.00/villa%20park?hallmap
I would assume there will be checks on the server side to stop you buying if you're not eligible yet, but TBH I wouldn't bank on it.
I'm surprised at the number of seats marked as 'restricted view'. Why was the stand built with such seats. However, the seats are only discounted by a quid, so I suspect the view isn't that restricted
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From a quick look at the source code, if you want to see what's available for Bournemouth but aren't yet eligible, and are getting the greyed out Coming Soon button, you can go to this url and access it.
https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/events/aston%20villa%20v%20bournemouth/2019-8-17_15.00/villa%20park?hallmap
I would assume there will be checks on the server side to stop you buying if you're not eligible yet, but TBH I wouldn't bank on it.
I'm surprised at the number of seats marked as 'restricted view'. Why was the stand built with such seats. However, the seats are only discounted by a quid, so I suspect the view isn't that restricted
It’s generally a rail either at the front or at the gangway that forces you to adjust position if the ball is played in front of the handrails. It’s not the worst and the minimal reduction reflects this.
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If there’s a handrail in your eye line when you sit down it’s deemed as restricted. I wonder if the away following get restricted view tickets? I’d imagine the top corner and areas of the lower section of the Doug Ellis would find it difficult seeing a corner at the Holte End being taken.
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From a quick look at the source code, if you want to see what's available for Bournemouth but aren't yet eligible, and are getting the greyed out Coming Soon button, you can go to this url and access it.
https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/events/aston%20villa%20v%20bournemouth/2019-8-17_15.00/villa%20park?hallmap
I would assume there will be checks on the server side to stop you buying if you're not eligible yet, but TBH I wouldn't bank on it.
I'm surprised at the number of seats marked as 'restricted view'. Why was the stand built with such seats. However, the seats are only discounted by a quid, so I suspect the view isn't that restricted
It’s generally a rail either at the front or at the gangway that forces you to adjust position if the ball is played in front of the handrails. It’s not the worst and the minimal reduction reflects this.
Yep, I sat in one of those seats once a few years back and it was as you've described.
the rail didn't really restrict the view much at all.
Although it was against Man United, so it would have been better if it had obstructed the view entirely.
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Just over 3,000 seats available for Bournemouth, but not on general sale for another week. Will be interesting to see how demand holds up as the season progresses.
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Just over 3,000 seats available for Bournemouth, but not on general sale for another week. Will be interesting to see how demand holds up as the season progresses.
Are you remembering to not count the away end tickets which, for some reason, show up there?
I just did a quick tally and got just over 2k left.
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Maybe Bournemouth will only take one tier so that would be an extra lot of tickets available for Villa fans?
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anyone know how you enter that lottery draw with the 25 pairs of away tickets thing ?
cant see anything on the website
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Just over 3,000 seats available for Bournemouth, but not on general sale for another week. Will be interesting to see how demand holds up as the season progresses.
Are you remembering to not count the away end tickets which, for some reason, show up there?
I just did a quick tally and got just over 2k left.
Yes, you're right. Even better, except for people hoping for general sale of course.
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It would be nice if the club pulled it's collective finger out of its arse and sorted out the ticket resale process. I'm on holiday for the Bournemouth game and would quite like to flog my season ticket on but months after being told an announcement was imminent there's still no way of selling my ticket to someone else.
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Bournemouth allocated 2017 tickets, but 3000 available in total if needed. They’ve not sold initial allocation yet though and are currently on sale to 9 away games last year
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It would be nice if the club pulled it's collective finger out of its arse and sorted out the ticket resale process. I'm on holiday for the Bournemouth game and would quite like to flog my season ticket on but months after being told an announcement was imminent there's still no way of selling my ticket to someone else.
Well there kind of is.
You can ask the club to download them to a paper ticket saying that you want to ‘pass them on’ to a friend or family member as you can’t go.
Then someone on here will probably pay you for them as even if they can get a ticket from the club it won’t be as good as yours!
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Bournemouth allocated 2017 tickets, but 3000 available in total if needed. They’ve not sold initial allocation yet though and are currently on sale to 9 away games last year
With this in mind, it would be nice if we could make the away section more flexible, ie allowing the upper segregation line to be moveable. I’m guessing that they allocate downstairs first which would probably be the 2017 figure. If after that, a club sell another 500, it would leave 500 available which in the past have just remained empty, regardless of demand.
I appreciate we won’t get too many teams not taking up their full allocation but if the chance arises,I’d like to see us ensure fans have the opportunity to sit in seats that would otherwise remain empty.
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It would be nice if the club pulled it's collective finger out of its arse and sorted out the ticket resale process. I'm on holiday for the Bournemouth game and would quite like to flog my season ticket on but months after being told an announcement was imminent there's still no way of selling my ticket to someone else.
Well there kind of is.
You can ask the club to download them to a paper ticket saying that you want to ‘pass them on’ to a friend or family member as you can’t go.
Then someone on here will probably pay you for them as even if they can get a ticket from the club it won’t be as good as yours!
Can you do this via the website or do you need to phone ticket office?
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anyone know how you enter that lottery draw with the 25 pairs of away tickets thing ?
cant see anything on the website
I read at the time it was announced that it was via the pride rewards scheme. Ie, you submit points in order to enter the draw.
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It would be nice if the club pulled it's collective finger out of its arse and sorted out the ticket resale process. I'm on holiday for the Bournemouth game and would quite like to flog my season ticket on but months after being told an announcement was imminent there's still no way of selling my ticket to someone else.
Well there kind of is.
You can ask the club to download them to a paper ticket saying that you want to ‘pass them on’ to a friend or family member as you can’t go.
Then someone on here will probably pay you for them as even if they can get a ticket from the club it won’t be as good as yours!
Can you do this via the website or do you need to phone ticket office?
Phone the ticket office, that's what I've always done, only option.
To be fair, it's really, really straightforward and takes about 30 seconds. They just deactivate your card and email you a PDF print-at-home ticket. I'd suggest not mentioning selling it, though.
I did it a few times last season as I was unable to make a few games and generally gave them to one of the Villa fans in the office.
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Has anyone received their new season tickets yet?
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It would be nice if the club pulled it's collective finger out of its arse and sorted out the ticket resale process. I'm on holiday for the Bournemouth game and would quite like to flog my season ticket on but months after being told an announcement was imminent there's still no way of selling my ticket to someone else.
Well there kind of is.
You can ask the club to download them to a paper ticket saying that you want to ‘pass them on’ to a friend or family member as you can’t go.
Then someone on here will probably pay you for them as even if they can get a ticket from the club it won’t be as good as yours!
Maybe we need a pinned link for spare ST's ;-)
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Has anyone received their new season tickets yet?
I haven’t received it or heard anything, I’ve had a look on the website and it doesn’t seem to say when they are being sent out either
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If you had one last year, they are just reactivating your card so you won't get a new one.
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I’ve moved seats.
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I'm wondering if I should get a claret membership now, even if I don't get to more than one game this season. I'm going to the Everton game but I don't know if I will be over for another.
I'm.thinkng about subsequent seasons. If they are capped at 10K, will the claret members be given first refusal on claret membership renewals?
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Has anyone received their new season tickets yet?
I haven’t received it or heard anything, I’ve had a look on the website and it doesn’t seem to say when they are being sent out either
Pretty sure I read somewhere it was posting at the end of July for anyone who is new or needs a new card.
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I'm wondering if I should get a claret membership now, even if I don't get to more than one game this season. I'm going to the Everton game but I don't know if I will be over for another.
I'm.thinkng about subsequent seasons. If they are capped at 10K, will the claret members be given first refusal on claret membership renewals?
You would have thoughts so.
Personally I think the fuss will die down and there will be more availability next year unless we have an incredible season, but you never know.
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Yes. Either we'll be looking at permanent waiting lists or we'll be back to yo-yo attendances.
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Many pl teams now appear to have waiting lists for season tickets. Even Micky Mouse clubs like Wolves have one.
I would argue that the danger of not extending the ground now, in order to capitalise on the upsurge is that we risk losing a chunk of a new generation of fans.
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Absolutely. For the first time I can remember, if a parent wants to take their child to a game for the first time, they aren't able to do so. That can't be good. I hope we announce the expansion before the end of this season.
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Absolutely. For the first time I can remember, if a parent wants to take their child to a game for the first time, they aren't able to do so. That can't be good. I hope we announce the expansion before the end of this season.
Why don't we see if we are still selling out at the end of the season before commiting £100m's on a vanity project?
It's all academic as Purslow has stated it won't happen for a good few years anyway.
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We were selling out at the end of last season and have massively increased our number of season ticket holders. It's not a vanity project, it's sensible forward planning.
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If we're languishing in the bottom half come May you can bet your backside we'll be back to 20k season ticket holders next season and no sell outs other than a couple against the top sides again. Wait and see is the correct and sensible answer IMHO.
But this expansion conversation has already been done to death of course.
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We were averaging good crowds when we looked to have no chance of promotion from the tier below. It's fine for those of us that have season tickets already. It's rubbish that the next generation are cut off from attending. No club of our stature has such a small ground or, if they do, they're looking to expand or move.
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Chelsea? Smaller capacity than VP isn't it? And Roman doesn't look in a hurry to pump the billions in to move.
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It would take a season to get plans drawn up, approved and then a plan in place for a build during the Close season. Realistically, we are looking at 2 seasons ahead in any case.
Sunderland moved and their gates rocketed, as did West Ham. Chelsea are an exception for whatever reason - all the other big London teams have moved.
Almost every team who have either moved or extended are now enjoying bigger gates.
I appreciate that we’ve never averaged more than our capacity but last season could have potentially seen a 45,000 average. This season certainly would have if we have 7,000 on the waiting list.
Dads who might want to take their son/daughter regularly may not be able to do so, likewise returning fans. There will also be people who might go to a one off game and get bitten by the bug.
I appreciate that team strengthening comes first at this point and wouldn’t want it any other way. However, I firmly believe that extending will add to the momentum. I think we’re being short sighted to write off our potential based on previous averages.
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I know the NS is a horribly outdated, but would a compromise be infilling the corners in that area to give an almost instant increase in capacity with minimal risk/cost?
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I know the NS is a horribly outdated, but would a compromise be infilling the corners in that area to give an almost instant increase in capacity with minimal risk/cost?
I can't think why, but you'll find people who are against that. Probably.
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I know the NS is a horribly outdated, but would a compromise be infilling the corners in that area to give an almost instant increase in capacity with minimal risk/cost?
I can't think why, but you'll find people who are against that. Probably.
Fuck that.
Villa Park is a traditional four stands English football ground.
I am happy for the entire thing to be knocked down and rebuilt if need be, but it must, if not remain four seperate stands, have a design which pays homage to that (see Sampdoria's ground when they rebuilt it for the 1990 WC, that sort of thing).
Filling in the bits around the north stand would almost certainly be structurally extremely challenging (and therefore expensive) and look shite.
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Chelsea? Smaller capacity than VP isn't it? And Roman doesn't look in a hurry to pump the billions in to move.
You're right, I wasn't aware that they were no longer going ahead with plans to expand the stadium. However, said plans are only "on hold". I'd be surprised if they were playing at a stadium with a sub-50,000 capacity in five years.
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Chelsea? Smaller capacity than VP isn't it? And Roman doesn't look in a hurry to pump the billions in to move.
You're right, I wasn't aware that they were no longer going ahead with plans to expand the stadium. However, said plans are only "on hold". I'd be surprised if they were playing at a stadium with a sub-50,000 capacity in five years.
And it's not exactly a case of him not wanting to, it's all bound up in the government holding back his visa.
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Apparently issue for Stamford Bridge is train/tube line round the back of one of the stands so can't develop past 50k.
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Apparently issue for Stamford Bridge is train/tube line round the back of one of the stands so can't develop past 50k.
They got permission to redevelop it to 60k, so that can't be right.
The problem is Roman's pulled the money because of his visa hold-back.
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I wonder, with the money nswe are chucking around, if there are big plans for the ground. What would people think of a 60k seat, state of the art stadium built close to the city centre?
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I wonder, with the money nswe are chucking around, if there are big plans for the ground. What would people think of a 60k seat, state of the art stadium built close to the city centre?
No.
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I wonder, with the money nswe are chucking around, if there are big plans for the ground. What would people think of a 60k seat, state of the art stadium built close to the city centre?
As long as it’s Worcester city centre that you’re talking about
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Serious question though.
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I wonder, with the money nswe are chucking around, if there are big plans for the ground. What would people think of a 60k seat, state of the art stadium built close to the city centre?
Aston Villa play at Villa Park.
You might as well merge with that lot and call it Birmingham Villa.
The end.
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I was 100% against ever moving, but... i bet it’s been discussed. Better facilities, better public transport links, no issues with building while needing somewhere to play. Just seeing spurs’ new stadium has made me think about this that’s all.
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Apparently issue for Stamford Bridge is train/tube line round the back of one of the stands so can't develop past 50k.
They got permission to redevelop it to 60k, so that can't be right.
The problem is Roman's pulled the money because of his visa hold-back.
Just checked back. They were actually going to do a Spurs and knock down current Stamford Bridge, turn pitch around and build new stadium on same site. Would've taken 3 years and they were asking about playing at Twickenham or Wembley.
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I was 100% against ever moving, but... i bet it’s been discussed. Better facilities, better public transport links, no issues with building while needing somewhere to play. Just seeing spurs’ new stadium has made me think about this that’s all.
Better transport links would mean NEC surely?
I know VP isn't perfect regarding that but it still has two train stations within half a mile radius and a decent bus route from city centre. If the council had shown some foresight 10 years ago you could've had tram route run down A34 or Lichfield road to add to things.
Certainly better than what Spurs have.
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What about the old market site in Digbeth? Near to HS2 terminal, for our tourist fans, easy access to the shires, New Villa Park?
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Digbeth is Nose country. I like it.
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What about the old market site in Digbeth? Near to HS2 terminal, for our tourist fans, easy access to the shires, New Villa Park?
They were actually talking about putting a city centre park there the other week which would be nice move. I did walk past the area recently and that site is massive, could easily get a football stadium in there.
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What about the old market site in Digbeth? Near to HS2 terminal, for our tourist fans, easy access to the shires, New Villa Park?
They were actually talking about putting a city centre park there the other week which would be nice move. I did walk past the area recently and that site is massive, could easily get a football stadium in there.
I went past yesterday, it really is huge, I hope they do something decent with it and not just commercial, making part of the site into a City Centre park is a must surely?
Not a place for us though, I feel that if we ever move from Aston it will be the first step on the road to becoming "just another club". The Hall, the park, the history of the serpentine and lower grounds, the approach towards the Holte Pub, the road names, even the towering and not particularly aesthetically pleasing Expressway are all part of our identity.
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Land anywhere near the city centre would be too expensive and I don’t see how you could accommodate the additional car parking. I also think it would extremely unlikely that the council would grant planning permission.
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I can’t ever see a complete relocation going down well with the fans. I would also be concerned that we would not be able to fund transfer windows adequately, as appeared to be the case with Arsenal for a few years after their move/total rebuild.
For me and most other fans, staying put is a must. We have the infrastructure and accessibility as shown in the past when we’ve hit gates of between late 40s to 60 odd thousand.
I would be happy to somehow add 5000-10,000 by tweaking the existing ground, filling in the corners etc. We have great land at the back of the NS and we’re possibly missing a trick by not taking advantage of it fully. Perhaps an additional 5,000-10,000 would act as a stop gap for a while to allow time to evaluate whether a complete redevelopment of the NS and ground behind is viable.
Imagine (or dream) if we could make a real impact on the top 6 again. 50,000 gates are far from being unrealistic. I have no idea of the revenue in comparison to initial outlay but with a rebuild NS, there is scope for more hospitality areas. Not everyone likes hospitality but we all have to accept that it’s part of modern football.
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What about the old market site in Digbeth? Near to HS2 terminal, for our tourist fans, easy access to the shires, New Villa Park?
They were actually talking about putting a city centre park there the other week which would be nice move. I did walk past the area recently and that site is massive, could easily get a football stadium in there.
I went past yesterday, it really is huge, I hope they do something decent with it and not just commercial, making part of the site into a City Centre park is a must surely?
Not a place for us though, I feel that if we ever move from Aston it will be the first step on the road to becoming "just another club". The Hall, the park, the history of the serpentine and lower grounds, the approach towards the Holte Pub, the road names, even the towering and not particularly aesthetically pleasing Expressway are all part of our identity.
Spot on, Nev.
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I think the new Spurs stadium has re-opened the debate for many people.
Having been there a couple of time last season I think there a few lessons to be learned.
Location, location, location - it succeeds because it's the new White Hart Lane. Unlike the Arse.
It's got a 'home end' (where I'll be sadly on the opening day) and whips up a good atmosphere unlike other stadia. Unlike West Ham.
They've built in a lot of great facilities and linked them to the past. They've made it feel like a massive overhaul of the old ground not a new stadium. To the Spuds it feels like they're 'home'.
With a bit of imagination and if needed all this could be achieved by restructuring on the current site.
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I know the NS is a horribly outdated, but would a compromise be infilling the corners in that area to give an almost instant increase in capacity with minimal risk/cost?
I can't think why, but you'll find people who are against that. Probably.
Fuck that.
Villa Park is a traditional four stands English football ground.
I am happy for the entire thing to be knocked down and rebuilt if need be, but it must, if not remain four seperate stands, have a design which pays homage to that (see Sampdoria's ground when they rebuilt it for the 1990 WC, that sort of thing).
Filling in the bits around the north stand would almost certainly be structurally extremely challenging (and therefore expensive) and look shite.
I don't think we have the land foorprint to have 4 huge stands with a big enough capacity without filling in the corners. I would have thought a horse shoewith a stand alone Holte as a focal point would work really well.
But the owners will wait to see how things eveolve over the next 12-18 months at least and I think that is absolutely the right thing to do.
On another point, I think the 7,000 waiting list is a bit of a myth. They had to release approx the first 4,000 on the waiting list to sell the last 1,000 season tickets. I don't think for a minute there's 7k people willing, ready and able to buy a season ticket right now.
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Digbeth is Nose country.
Maybe when they're at home, for about an hour after the game. Not the other 340 or so days a year.
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For me and most other fans, staying put is a must. We have the infrastructure and accessibility as shown in the past when we’ve hit gates of between late 40s to 60 odd thousand.
I would be happy to somehow add 5000-10,000 by tweaking the existing ground, filling in the corners etc. We have great land at the back of the NS and we’re possibly missing a trick by not taking advantage of it fully. Perhaps an additional 5,000-10,000 would act as a stop gap for a while to allow time to evaluate whether a complete redevelopment of the NS and ground behind is viable.
Imagine (or dream) if we could make a real impact on the top 6 again. 50,000 gates are far from being unrealistic. I have no idea of the revenue in comparison to initial outlay but with a rebuild NS, there is scope for more hospitality areas. Not everyone likes hospitality but we all have to accept that it’s part of modern football.
All well and good.
The biggest challenge VP has now is accommodating car-parking. As someone who comes in every home game form the North, I'm finding I have to arrive 2.5-3 hours ahead of kick-off to get a decent parking space.
I'd also add that I think growing the merchandising around the ground gives matchday more of a carnival 'feel' and this develops the whole experience.
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Up to 1.5 hours will guarantee you a parking space where we park. Normally there are spaces at 2 pm, 10 minutes from the ground.
Obviously, as with any event, the later you leave it, the further away you will need to park. There are literally hundreds of sites offering parking. I would put our parking options up there with most grounds.
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You can however be sat in traffic for 2 hours after a game before you even reach the motorway.
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Plenty of Villa frequent Digbeth, and I've seen more opposition fans in Digbeth pubs after nose home games than the noses themselves. (When the scum last played newcastle comes immediately to mind). Remember the City is Ours.
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that's just a terrace chant. It's a no to anywhere other than where we are.
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You can however be sat in traffic for 2 hours after a game before you even reach the motorway.
What????
The worst I’ve ever experinced was 15 minutes when we played Leeds 2 seasons ago and they held the traffic up to escort their coaches out.
Where the hell do you park and where the hell are you at 7 o’clock on a Saturday game or midnight for a midweek game?
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Maybe he is actually sitting in traffic, as he doesn't have a car?
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Maybe he is actually sitting in traffic, as he doesn't have a car?
Good point.
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You can however be sat in traffic for 2 hours after a game before you even reach the motorway.
What????
The worst I’ve ever experinced was 15 minutes when we played Leeds 2 seasons ago and they held the traffic up to escort their coaches out.
Where the hell do you park and where the hell are you at 7 o’clock on a Saturday game or midnight for a midweek game?
I've parked at King Edwards for years now, and if it's a big crowd it takes me upwards of an hour just to get from King Edwards to Park Circus. I don't like to 'leave early to miss the traffic'!
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You can however be sat in traffic for 2 hours after a game before you even reach the motorway.
What? ???
The worst I’ve ever experinced was 15 minutes when we played Leeds 2 seasons ago and they held the traffic up to escort their coaches out.
Where the hell do you park and where the hell are you at 7 o’clock on a Saturday game or midnight for a midweek game?
I parked at the ground for the Leeds home game as I was in the 82 Lounge. Gave it an hour after kick off hour before we left, and it still took an hour to get to the motorway, All of the roads immediately around VP were absolutely gridlocked. The trouble is, a lot of the surrounding side streets are too small to comfortably get two cars passing down them, so they get blocked and that has a knock on effect everywhere.
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You can however be sat in traffic for 2 hours after a game before you even reach the motorway.
What????
The worst I’ve ever experinced was 15 minutes when we played Leeds 2 seasons ago and they held the traffic up to escort their coaches out.
Where the hell do you park and where the hell are you at 7 o’clock on a Saturday game or midnight for a midweek game?
I've parked at King Edwards for years now, and if it's a big crowd it takes me upwards of an hour just to get from King Edwards to Park Circus. I don't like to 'leave early to miss the traffic'!
I’d recommend you change your parking spot then. I park not far from KE and every time I get to the A38 island after a game, I always ask myself why in God’s name would anyone want to put themselves in that bottleneck every other week.
I never leave early (sometimes I would if I wasn’t waiting for my lift) I rarely encounter any problems getting away. Sometimes we have to drop my nephew back at his university digs in selly oak and usually, the worst traffic we hit is getting through the underpasses and the first bit of Bristol Road.
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You can however be sat in traffic for 2 hours after a game before you even reach the motorway.
What? ???
The worst I’ve ever experinced was 15 minutes when we played Leeds 2 seasons ago and they held the traffic up to escort their coaches out.
Where the hell do you park and where the hell are you at 7 o’clock on a Saturday game or midnight for a midweek game?
I parked at the ground for the Leeds home game as I was in the 82 Lounge. Gave it an hour after kick off hour before we left, and it still took an hour to get to the motorway, All of the roads immediately around VP were absolutely gridlocked. The trouble is, a lot of the surrounding side streets are too small to comfortably get two cars passing down them, so they get blocked and that has a knock on effect everywhere.
I was on about the night game, the season before. There must have been some roadworks on Lichfield Road or at spaghetti. Their coaches were brought towards town and onto the A38 at The KE roundabout.
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I always park at Star City. It’s a 25-30 minute walk but always get a spot and escape the traffic easily enough. Options for pre or post match refreshments and entertainment too.
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In light of recent events, I have changed my mind about us expanding a couple of stands to bring capacity up to 50,000.
Expand all four and let's be bigger than the Nou Camp, please.
#announcemassivefuckoffground
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In light of recent events, I have changed my mind about us expanding a couple of stands to bring capacity up to 50,000.
Expand all four and let's be bigger than the Nou Camp, please.
#announcemassivefuckoffground
If that's what you want #announcecdwolvesfan
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I wouldn't be able to get a ticket at the Neux Camp, I wasn't one of the 200,000 who watched them in the Fourth Division.
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For me and most other fans, staying put is a must. We have the infrastructure and accessibility as shown in the past when we’ve hit gates of between late 40s to 60 odd thousand.
I would be happy to somehow add 5000-10,000 by tweaking the existing ground, filling in the corners etc. We have great land at the back of the NS and we’re possibly missing a trick by not taking advantage of it fully. Perhaps an additional 5,000-10,000 would act as a stop gap for a while to allow time to evaluate whether a complete redevelopment of the NS and ground behind is viable.
Imagine (or dream) if we could make a real impact on the top 6 again. 50,000 gates are far from being unrealistic. I have no idea of the revenue in comparison to initial outlay but with a rebuild NS, there is scope for more hospitality areas. Not everyone likes hospitality but we all have to accept that it’s part of modern football.
All well and good.
The biggest challenge VP has now is accommodating car-parking. As someone who comes in every home game form the North, I'm finding I have to arrive 2.5-3 hours ahead of kick-off to get a decent parking space.
I'd also add that I think growing the merchandising around the ground gives matchday more of a carnival 'feel' and this develops the whole experience.
Always surprised me the club have never run a shuttle service from Star City. I get a lift from there on midweek games and always plenty of fans walking back that way so clearly plenty parking with the huge amount of spaces on offer.
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For me and most other fans, staying put is a must. We have the infrastructure and accessibility as shown in the past when we’ve hit gates of between late 40s to 60 odd thousand.
I would be happy to somehow add 5000-10,000 by tweaking the existing ground, filling in the corners etc. We have great land at the back of the NS and we’re possibly missing a trick by not taking advantage of it fully. Perhaps an additional 5,000-10,000 would act as a stop gap for a while to allow time to evaluate whether a complete redevelopment of the NS and ground behind is viable.
Imagine (or dream) if we could make a real impact on the top 6 again. 50,000 gates are far from being unrealistic. I have no idea of the revenue in comparison to initial outlay but with a rebuild NS, there is scope for more hospitality areas. Not everyone likes hospitality but we all have to accept that it’s part of modern football.
All well and good.
The biggest challenge VP has now is accommodating car-parking. As someone who comes in every home game form the North, I'm finding I have to arrive 2.5-3 hours ahead of kick-off to get a decent parking space.
I'd also add that I think growing the merchandising around the ground gives matchday more of a carnival 'feel' and this develops the whole experience.
Always surprised me the club have never run a shuttle service from Star City. I get a lift from there on midweek games and always plenty of fans walking back that way so clearly plenty parking with the huge amount of spaces on offer.
Probably because Star City don't want to encourage people using their car park.
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They usually have “free matchday parking” signs at the entrance.
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You can however be sat in traffic for 2 hours after a game before you even reach the motorway.
What? ???
The worst I’ve ever experinced was 15 minutes when we played Leeds 2 seasons ago and they held the traffic up to escort their coaches out.
Where the hell do you park and where the hell are you at 7 o’clock on a Saturday game or midnight for a midweek game?
I parked at the ground for the Leeds home game as I was in the 82 Lounge. Gave it an hour after kick off hour before we left, and it still took an hour to get to the motorway, All of the roads immediately around VP were absolutely gridlocked. The trouble is, a lot of the surrounding side streets are too small to comfortably get two cars passing down them, so they get blocked and that has a knock on effect everywhere.
The last season, we had a routine of boozing / lunching in town, then getting an uber to the game (a fiver) and then a cab back from Trinity Road after. Basically, as you say, there's nowhere near enough room to get two cars down most of those roads and certainly not to turn around in them, so there's no way I'd try it in my own car, but am happy to pay someone who is prepared to do it with theirs £8 to take me back to town.
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We're going to have to get used to the London idea of getting public transport for at least part of the journey.
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We're going to have to get used to the London idea of getting public transport for at least part of the journey.
If they get public transport sorted then maybe. Isn’t that new Sprint Bus thing going down the Lichfield Road?
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We're going to have to get used to the London idea of getting public transport for at least part of the journey.
And maybe walking a bit.....controversial...
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To me part of the pre match routine is walking 10-15 minutes to the ground, approaching and seeing the Trinity coming into view or Holte pub if I'm coming from the station. Great on an evening of course with the floodlights shining in the distance.
Not the same if you just park in the back streets round by Witton station.
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I wouldn't be able to get a ticket at the Neux Camp, I wasn't one of the 200,000 who watched them in the Fourth Division.
They didn't even sell out last night against the mighty Crusaders in their first European tie in 40 years! I found it amusing watching the pre-match Sky coverage outside the ground with lots of Noddy Holder lookalikes entering the Stadium.
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My Season Ticket arrived this morning. Gone are the days of a fancy welcome pack. Card stuck to a sheet of A4
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I wouldn't be able to get a ticket at the Neux Camp, I wasn't one of the 200,000 who watched them in the Fourth Division.
Applause. 👏🏻👏🏻👍
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We're going to have to get used to the London idea of getting public transport for at least part of the journey.
Been doing it for years on the cross city line. The majority of the stations have decent car parks so you don’t need to live in close proximity. I’m fortunate in that I can walk to one but if I didn’t I would either drive or get a cab to Selly Oak, as it has the most space, and travel on from there. After the game there is a big rush for the first train but if you’re not in a hurry go for a pint or two and the subsequent trains are all fine.
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Went online at 17.15 to get Everton tickets. Managed to get two tickets together upper Holte K7. Pretty much single tickets in Holte. Bit more choice in other stands but obviously more expensive.
Going to have to move sharpish in future if more than two of us want to go.
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Claret Membership sorted this week plus tickets ordered for Bournemouth and Everton - looking forward to being back at Villa Park again but not relishing the journey there and back down the M57,M62 and M6
Maybe I should consider returning to Brum in my retirement :)
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It's a lot easier now the M6 from J19-16 is 4 lanes.
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It's a lot easier now the M6 from J19-16 is 4 lanes.
Cheers for that - I don't get to travel that way much these days - jnr is off down that way tomorrow so will feed back
Out of interest what time would you be hitting the road for the Everton game at home or would you be on half a day?
Jnr could be working anywhere in the North West on that Friday and will be hoping for a handy finish/early dart
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I'd probably leave on Thursday, just to be sure. The M6 on a Friday is murder.
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I'd probably leave on Thursday, just to be sure. The M6 on a Friday is murder.
:) Looks like a half day for jnr then
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It's a lot easier now the M6 from J19-16 is 4 lanes.
Shame that everything south of there is such a nightmare.
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It's a lot easier now the M6 from J19-16 is 4 lanes.
Shame that everything south of there is such a nightmare.
It’s not that bad, set the cruise control to 54 and relax from 15-13, then floor it again. I can do Wilmslow to VP in about 1hr 15 most trips.
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It's a lot easier now the M6 from J19-16 is 4 lanes.
Cheers for that - I don't get to travel that way much these days - jnr is off down that way tomorrow so will feed back
Out of interest what time would you be hitting the road for the Everton game at home or would you be on half a day?
Jnr could be working anywhere in the North West on that Friday and will be hoping for a handy finish/early dart
If it was a Friday, I'd take a half day at work.
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It's a lot easier now the M6 from J19-16 is 4 lanes.
Shame that everything south of there is such a nightmare.
It’s not that bad, set the cruise control to 54 and relax from 15-13, then floor it again. I can do Wilmslow to VP in about 1hr 15 most trips.
Yeah, for some reason the roadworks from Stoke down dont seem anywhere near as bad as what the Cheshire ones were.
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Went online at 17.15 to get Everton tickets. Managed to get two tickets together upper Holte K7. Pretty much single tickets in Holte. Bit more choice in other stands but obviously more expensive.
Going to have to move sharpish in future if more than two of us want to go.
Completely forgot about the claret membership release for Everton tickets until the early hours this morning. There were only a few left in the upper Holte and was lucky enough to get 2 relatively close to each other in K3.
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It's a lot easier now the M6 from J19-16 is 4 lanes.
Shame that everything south of there is such a nightmare.
It’s not that bad, set the cruise control to 54 and relax from 15-13, then floor it again. I can do Wilmslow to VP in about 1hr 15 most trips.
Yeah, for some reason the roadworks from Stoke down dont seem anywhere near as bad as what the Cheshire ones were.
I think it feels worse when I come home because I've got all the ones around Cov as well, where there quite often seems to be gridlock when I'm doing it.
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It's a lot easier now the M6 from J19-16 is 4 lanes.
But from 16 - 13 they are still converting it and it’s all 50mph!
Tbf - it doesn’t seem to make loads of difference because it seems to work as traffic management and stop ghost jams. It feels worst when it’s not busy and you have to concentrate really hard not to go over 50.
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Does anyone know anything about selling back season ticket seats to games they cannot make?
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Does anyone know anything about selling back season ticket seats to games they cannot make?
Keep up!
It would be nice if the club pulled it's collective finger out of its arse and sorted out the ticket resale process. I'm on holiday for the Bournemouth game and would quite like to flog my season ticket on but months after being told an announcement was imminent there's still no way of selling my ticket to someone else.
Well there kind of is.
You can ask the club to download them to a paper ticket saying that you want to ‘pass them on’ to a friend or family member as you can’t go.
Then someone on here will probably pay you for them as even if they can get a ticket from the club it won’t be as good as yours!
Can you do this via the website or do you need to phone ticket office?
Phone the ticket office, that's what I've always done, only option.
To be fair, it's really, really straightforward and takes about 30 seconds. They just deactivate your card and email you a PDF print-at-home ticket. I'd suggest not mentioning selling it, though.
I did it a few times last season as I was unable to make a few games and generally gave them to one of the Villa fans in the office.
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I thought they said there was going to be a ticket reselling scheme so the club would do it on your behalf?
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They did and I have been assured by someone with some clout in the ticket office that reselling ssn ticket seats for individual games will be in place for the Bournemouth game. We'll soon see if they are true to their word.
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According to the FAQ 1/23rd of the ST value if they sell:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/Tickets/season-tickets/season-tickets-faqs
Will I be able to sell my seat via a seat resale programme for games I cannot attend?
Supporters have the benefit of being able to sell their seat using the clubs seat resale programme for matches they are unable to attend.
Supporters can list tickets in advance and may receive 1/23rd of the cost of their season ticket back as a BACS payment subject to seat being resold.
More information will be communicated before the new season.
hopefully gets sorted very soon.
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1/23rd sounds suspiciously like last season as there were 23 home games
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1/23rd sounds suspiciously like last season as there were 23 home games
Would make sense, though I presumed it was just them taking their cut?
Another question:
Can anyone let me know what "Enrol your season ticket into the Free Ticket for Season Ticket holders 1920 now!" is ?
Is it "First home cup game free of charge" (https://www.avfc.co.uk/Tickets/season-tickets/benefits), and if so presumably it's only the first home round we are in of the League cup, or failing that a home FA Cup, rather than *your* first home cup game if there are multiples?
Last time I had a ST I stood on a milk crate...
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Am I being too cynical if I was to say that you'll get back 1/19 of your season ticket but the tickets will then be sold at matchday prices?
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Am I being too cynical if I was to say that you'll get back 1/19 of your season ticket but the tickets will then be sold at matchday prices?
That sounds fair enough to me, to be honest.
Any other way and you're making a profit on it.
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Am I being too cynical if I was to say that you'll get back 1/19 of your season ticket but the tickets will then be sold at matchday prices?
That sounds fair enough to me, to be honest.
Any other way and you're making a profit on it.
They could always sell the tickets for what they paid. Anything else and they'll be touting.
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Am I being too cynical if I was to say that you'll get back 1/19 of your season ticket but the tickets will then be sold at matchday prices?
That sounds fair enough to me, to be honest.
Any other way and you're making a profit on it.
They could always sell the tickets for what they paid. Anything else and they'll be touting.
I wouldn't say you were being cynical. But I'd definitely say you were being naive to think they'd do anything but!
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Am I being too cynical if I was to say that you'll get back 1/19 of your season ticket but the tickets will then be sold at matchday prices?
I’d say you’re spot on but they do need to take a cut for admin etc. Ultimately they’ll probably make a bit on it as well but I wouldn’t have thought it would be massively profitable for them.
Also it does mean the club takes the profit that may have gone to an enterprising fan or tout.
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Am I being too cynical if I was to say that you'll get back 1/19 of your season ticket but the tickets will then be sold at matchday prices?
I’d say you’re spot on but they do need to take a cut for admin etc. Ultimately they’ll probably make a bit on it as well but I wouldn’t have thought it would be massively profitable for them.
Also it does mean the club takes the profit that may have gone to an enterprising fan or tout.
I really don't think this is an issue.
If the club hadn't sold that season ticket they'd be selling the ticket for the same price as all the others. If a season ticket holder doesn't attend is it any surprise they'd sell the ticket for the same price as all the others?
Put another way, how daft would the club look to have two price categories for seats next to each other, just because one was originally bought by a season ticket holder and the other wasn't?
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Why should the club take on the admin of selling an already sold season ticket and then undercut their own prices of available seats in the process? That would be madness. I can’t believe people are making an issue of this.
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Mine come this morning so they are obviously in the process of sending them out.
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Mine come this morning so they are obviously in the process of sending them out.
Did you get any goodies or just the card ?
I think that the only Season Ticket freebies that were any use to me was the year that we had vouchers for free pies/drinks
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Mine come this morning so they are obviously in the process of sending them out.
Did you get any goodies or just the card ?
I think that the only Season Ticket freebies that were any use to me was the year that we had vouchers for free pies/drinks
Literally just the card and a covering letter.
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Mine come this morning so they are obviously in the process of sending them out.
Did you get any goodies or just the card ?
I think that the only Season Ticket freebies that were any use to me was the year that we had vouchers for free pies/drinks
I received just the new card and a letter, no other goodies included.
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Fuck it. Was hoping for free pies.
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Mine arrived today as well. I quite like the fact it's just a letter and the card.
Feels nicely old-school. It's like scoring a brilliant goal and just shaking hands on the way back to the restart.
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So am on the look out for
1) cost of upgrading my Dad’s 65+ ST to adult if he’s not up to making any games
2) any restriction as to how often it’s allowed
3) re-sale process
Will message @AVFCsupport on twitter and share any updates, but curious if anybody had any news, FAQs haven’t been updated but that’s not necessarily indicative it seems...
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My season ticket arrived yesterday. I like that it is claret and nice and small
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Mine arrived today as well. I quite like the fact it's just a letter and the card.
Feels nicely old-school. It's like scoring a brilliant goal and just shaking hands on the way back to the restart.
Fantastic 👏
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Let’s face it, all the tat that came with STs in the past was straight in the bin anyway.
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So am on the look out for
1) cost of upgrading my Dad’s 65+ ST to adult if he’s not up to making any games
2) any restriction as to how often it’s allowed
3) re-sale process
Will message @AVFCsupport on twitter and share any updates, but curious if anybody had any news, FAQs haven’t been updated but that’s not necessarily indicative it seems...
When I have asked about upgrading an under-18 to an adult, they told me it's just the cost difference between the two categories.
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So am on the look out for
1) cost of upgrading my Dad’s 65+ ST to adult if he’s not up to making any games
2) any restriction as to how often it’s allowed
3) re-sale process
Will message @AVFCsupport on twitter and share any updates, but curious if anybody had any news, FAQs haven’t been updated but that’s not necessarily indicative it seems...
When I have asked about upgrading an under-18 to an adult, they told me it's just the cost difference between the two categories.
yep they told me that too
i think you have to ring in though or visit the ticket office you cant do it on-line
think they send the upgrades out as an e ticket
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if you already have a season ticket, are you meant to receive anything at all, albeit a letter or email, because I haven't received anything since the confirmation email when I renewed.
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if you already have a season ticket, are you meant to receive anything at all, albeit a letter or email, because I haven't received anything since the confirmation email when I renewed.
I'm assuming that it's just the original confirmation email
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if you already have a season ticket, are you meant to receive anything at all, albeit a letter or email, because I haven't received anything since the confirmation email when I renewed.
Will you get a text message or email to confirm your ST is reactivated for this season?
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Most years they have replaced my season card even though there hasn't really been a need to.
On the few occasions they haven't, they have still sent me the pack without a new card and just said in the letter to use my existing card.
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Am I being too cynical if I was to say that you'll get back 1/19 of your season ticket but the tickets will then be sold at matchday prices?
That sounds fair enough to me, to be honest.
Any other way and you're making a profit on it.
you can now request Villa your sell season ticket seats for the Bournemouth via logging into your account on website. It’s a bit of a faff as i had to do it separately for all the kids ones too.
You get 80% back of 1/19th of the cost of the season ticket, if i read it correctly.
Bloody annoying season starts so early
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Most years they have replaced my season card even though there hasn't really been a need to.
On the few occasions they haven't, they have still sent me the pack without a new card and just said in the letter to use my existing card.
Have you received anything like this, this year?
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Nah, not had anything yet unless Postie brings it this afternoon.
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Am I being too cynical if I was to say that you'll get back 1/19 of your season ticket but the tickets will then be sold at matchday prices?
That sounds fair enough to me, to be honest.
Any other way and you're making a profit on it.
you can now request Villa your sell season ticket seats for the Bournemouth via logging into your account on website. It’s a bit of a faff as i had to do it separately for all the kids ones too.
You get 80% back of 1/19th of the cost of the season ticket, if i read it correctly.
Bloody annoying season starts so early
80%?! That makes Viagogo seem like value for money.
On a £500 season ticket that's over a fiver you get charged for the club selling your ticket! I get that the difference here is that the club are buying your ticket with no guarantee of being able to sell it on whereas with Viagogo they took zero risk over the resale but a 20% charge still seems pretty steep.
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The 80% probably looks at the likelihood of being able to re-sell all of the unwanted seats, as well as possibility that the person buying it may not be in the same category of purchaser. So for instance, mine in K4 is £33 for Everton, but if someone buys it for their kid then that's only £10 Villa are going to get for it, yet they'd be paying me about £25 back.
Now that's the extreme, but it has to be taken into account how often that can happen.
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Put it on here for 1/19th of ST price. I don't think you'd have much trouble selling it.
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how do they pay you? Is it real money to your bank account or is it loaded onto your season ticket to buy pies with.
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i phoned this morning to get confirmation that my season ticket had uploaded to my card as I had received nothing since renewing in February. The guy said that people keeping the same seat i don't get any further communication and referred me to the confirmatory email issued at the time, which I did keep. He was a cheery chap and ended the phone call with a nice 'Up the Villa!'
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Let’s face it, all the tat that came with STs in the past was straight in the bin anyway.
Remember that weird DVD with military style drumming soundtrack they sent out in the early Lerner years?
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Sounds like a sequel to that 90s mid-season VHS called "Squaddies" with Andy Townshend and a few others all dressed-up in camouflage gear and warpaint.
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Let’s face it, all the tat that came with STs in the past was straight in the bin anyway.
Remember that weird DVD with military style drumming soundtrack they sent out in the early Lerner years?
I've got mine in the drawer along with the stickers, badges and vouchers for pies and coffee or whatever. Worth a fortune in years to come
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how do they pay you? Is it real money to your bank account or is it loaded onto your season ticket to buy pies with.
bank transfer
I suppose there is some admin costs on their end but happy the seats will not be wasted for a sell out game and that i’m getting something back.
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Thanks Arsey, Dogtanian and UKRedsox for your various replies.
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Thanks Arsey, Dogtanian and UKRedsox for your various replies.
thanks from me too :)
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Let’s face it, all the tat that came with STs in the past was straight in the bin anyway.
Remember that weird DVD with military style drumming soundtrack they sent out in the early Lerner years?
That was the "Proud History Bright future" era I think.
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Let’s face it, all the tat that came with STs in the past was straight in the bin anyway.
I did like the little round stamped metal lion badge for season ticket holders they started doing. Apparently you got it with your first one ( or if you were existing ST holder got it the year they started sending them ) and those with ten years of season tickets get a gold-coloured one.
No idea if they still do those, though this is my tenth year so will see if I get one!
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No Lion token for me as a new (at least this decade) ST holder, so I wouldn’t hold your breath for the carriage clock. It would be a nice touch for more committed fans, even a simple letter to acknowledge?
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That's a shame. I'm wearing my silver-coloured one to Spurs on Saturday as will be in a box with Spurs fans and we are barred from wearing opposition colours.
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No Lion token for me as a new (at least this decade) ST holder, so I wouldn’t hold your breath for the carriage clock. It would be a nice touch for more committed fans, even a simple letter to acknowledge?
If you applied that logic to every part of your life your house would be full of badges. From the bank to the milkman. Stick with the same insurers for a number of years and your reward is a price hike.
If a badge is important to you a couple of quid will sort it out.
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that particular promotion wasn't a roaring success.
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If you applied that logic to every part of your life your house would be full of badges. From the bank to the milkman. Stick with the same insurers for a number of years and your reward is a price hike.
If a badge is important to you a couple of quid will sort it out.
Wow... ::)
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No Lion token for me as a new (at least this decade) ST holder, so I wouldn’t hold your breath for the carriage clock. It would be a nice touch for more committed fans, even a simple letter to acknowledge?
If you applied that logic to every part of your life your house would be full of badges. From the bank to the milkman. Stick with the same insurers for a number of years and your reward is a price hike.
If a badge is important to you a couple of quid will sort it out.
It’s not, it was a response to a question, though recognising loyalty in a fanbase is rarely a poor move. I do still have an early 80s letter (and complimentary club diary) from the Villa I got when I was ?7 years old, apologising for an unplanned closure of the club shop after my Dad complained I’d obviously been a bit gutted by a wasted trip. I guess that kind of thoughtfulness and attention to detail is the sort of class I associate/hope for from Villa, but no real issue here...
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Speaking to someone at the ticket office it was purely down to demand and the time it would take for 'packs' to be produced. Card & A4 paper written and printed at VP.
Free flags / scarves etc will be given out over the season as a 'Thank You'
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Hate flags. >:(
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Hate flags. >:(
Did they give us flags on the night of the Ajax game or was it just overpriced programmes and general hyping of a competition that Villa then bailed on ?
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CSKA was flags iirc.
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We could get clappers like Leicester :-[ . Huddersfield and Fulham copied that idea and look what happened to them
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Grrrr! Awful.
Flags are bad enough, but you know you’re at a small-time club when there are clappers, or even worse, a drummer. :'(
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We needs drums and trumpets so as we can do this.
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We needs drums and trumpets so as we can do this.
Don’t get why they’d happily give out points deductions for losing money, yet happily let this kind of thing go on in modern football.
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Has there been any announcement on the ticket exchange for ST holders to list individual games?
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Has there been any announcement on the ticket exchange for ST holders to list individual games?
Yep.
Am I being too cynical if I was to say that you'll get back 1/19 of your season ticket but the tickets will then be sold at matchday prices?
That sounds fair enough to me, to be honest.
Any other way and you're making a profit on it.
you can now request Villa your sell season ticket seats for the Bournemouth via logging into your account on website. It’s a bit of a faff as i had to do it separately for all the kids ones too.
You get 80% back of 1/19th of the cost of the season ticket, if i read it correctly.
Bloody annoying season starts so early
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just had an email from the club confirming that my ST had been updated - first I've heard since renewing in February.
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just had an email from the club confirming that my ST had been updated - first I've heard since renewing in February.
thank you for showing your support by purchasing a 2019/20 Season Ticket.
You'll be joining 30,000 Villans who have all commited to the Club - a record breaking number of Season Ticket Holders.
Although you don't need a new card for this season, we wanted to let you know that your card has been uploaded with all the games for the 2019/20 Premier League Campaign.
Please note that these cards are to be used across multiple seasons, so please keep hold of them at the end of the campaign.
Thank you again for your marvellous support.
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We could get clappers like Leicester :-[ . Huddersfield and Fulham copied that idea and look what happened to them
Bobble heads, what we need is Bobbleheads.
Mr Shin should back me up on this
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For anyone who has bought Claret Membership but not received their card and pack yet, I’ve just received this email from the club:
<insert name>, your Membership Card isn't far away
If you haven't received your Membership Card yet then hold tight! We can assure you that your card will be on it's way very shortly and apologise for the delay.
You're part of a record breaking number of Members this season and we can't wait to see you all at Villa Park!
Should you not have received your Membership Card by the end of August, please contact our Ticket Office.
Membership benefits such as the £10 ticket voucher and Cub Members' free games can still be redeemed without the membership card.
Thank you for your tremendous support.
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I think we all have ;-)
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Everton has made general sale....plenty of choice in Upper Trinity and about 100 seats in Upper Witton.
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Possibly because it’s a Friday night?
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Televised as well, that's bound to be a factor in a few people's decision to hold on to their £40.
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Be interesting to see how the crowds fair if we aren't doing well half way through the season if we have a midweek game. might regret capping those Season Tickets
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454 left with two weeks to go.
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Leeds would have sold out by now.
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They definitely would, as we've sold 41,000, 3.5k more than their monument to falling apart holds.
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It’s either a league or club rule to leave so many for matchday sale so that isn’t the issue . I think the issue is the bloody cost of matchday tickets this year and as the matchday tickets are the only variable in filling the ground , those 8000 will have more of a sell out say than usual deciding to buy or not.
It’ll be interesting to see how many get sold for £50 at category A games, especially as some of those are more likely to be on tv.
I know it’s now more of a premium product and owners would want some investment return, but interesting as we’ve never been in this financial luxury / squad investment for a long time
Anyway, supply/demand, great times nevertheless ,
UTV
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Only 500 making it to general sale for a televised, weird kick off time, for a time of year where our home crowds are always down shows the level of support that the rest of the region could only ever dream of.
#levels
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And is still a fortnight away.
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454 left with two weeks to go.
Friday night, live on the telly, school holidays and a bank holiday weekend.
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188 left now
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41 now.
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24 left.
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8 left....
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I can't make the Bournemouth game, how do I resell my two seats?
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I can't make the Bournemouth game, how do I resell my two seats?
Isn't there something in the ticket shop on the website?
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Logon to the ticket hub, click on home games. Click on your name in the top right hand corner. This brings up all your details and under the alerts section is the re-sale ticket section. Click on the word "here" and then the games eligible for re-sale comes up. Everton is on there now as well as Bournemouth.
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Everton has now sold out.
Friday night, August, two weeks before the match takes place. That's pretty impressive.
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Good stuff. I can’t make any games in September so looking forward to a full house roaring at both Bournemouth and Everton.
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They best re-open the bloody kiosks and stock well up on pies.
Five matches in a row I failed to get a balti pie last season, five! >:(
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Ace. Everton will be my French mate's first game. Although he got told "What the fuck do I care?" when he superfluously texted me to point out that Tottingham's equaliser was scored by a French international.
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Ace. Everton will be my French mate's first game. Although he got told "What the fuck do I care?" when he superfluously texted me to point out that Tottingham's equaliser was scored by a French international.
Has he taken up the claret and blue though?
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Yes, of course. I wouldn't be bringing him otherwise. He's joined the French Lions, bought a Villa ball and a Villa gnome. He tried to buy a Luke top towards the end of the season but there weren't any left.
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Haha bless him.
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I can't make the Bournemouth game, how do I resell my two seats?
Are you trying to mess up my GTC prediction?
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Sure I’ve read on villa website there is a method of resale system now in place ?
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Logon to the ticket hub, click on home games. Click on your name in the top right hand corner. This brings up all your details and under the alerts section is the re-sale ticket section. Click on the word "here" and then the games eligible for re-sale comes up. Everton is on there now as well as Bournemouth.
Exactly as above – looks like this:
(https://i.ibb.co/pzcHyN9/Screenshot-2019-08-12-at-19-50-42.png) (https://ibb.co/pzcHyN9)
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I can't make the Bournemouth game, how do I resell my two seats?
Are you trying to mess up my GTC prediction?
Ha ha, nice one
Thanks for the help all, UTV
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They best re-open the bloody kiosks and stock well up on pies.
Five matches in a row I failed to get a balti pie last season, five! >:(
Five? I'd have been fuming. There's no excuse for that.
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I was, utter madness.
I have a friend who owns a bakers shop and he tells me that they only put in the oven what they know they will definitely sell. I pointed out that if they only ever put five of whatever in the oven, then how will they ever know they couldn't sell six?
I think that the whole thing is geared more to avoiding waste than it is to making sure customers get what they want, especially as it isn't like what they don't sell today they can sell tomorrow.
Maybe Bruce could have taken some home? ;D
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Here's a (possibly stupid) question, does anyone know if "paper" tickets scan at the turnstiles from a phone or do i definitely have to print it out?
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I always use a print out but some on here have confirmed that using your phone works too.
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They work on your phone. Just make sure your screen's brightness isn't turned down, that's the only issue I've had.
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There is currently ONE seat available for the Everton game if anyone on here fancies moving fast!
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Cheers all. That's one less thing for me to forget.
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I was, utter madness.
I have a friend who owns a bakers shop and he tells me that they only put in the oven what they know they will definitely sell. I pointed out that if they only ever put five of whatever in the oven, then how will they ever know they couldn't sell six?
I think that the whole thing is geared more to avoiding waste than it is to making sure customers get what they want, especially as it isn't like what they don't sell today they can sell tomorrow.
Maybe Bruce could have taken some home? ;D
I always feel catering is never maximised. In the same way I'm sure that adding more staff would more than cover their costs given how many more beers they would sell if the queues were shorter.
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I was, utter madness.
I have a friend who owns a bakers shop and he tells me that they only put in the oven what they know they will definitely sell. I pointed out that if they only ever put five of whatever in the oven, then how will they ever know they couldn't sell six?
I think that the whole thing is geared more to avoiding waste than it is to making sure customers get what they want, especially as it isn't like what they don't sell today they can sell tomorrow.
Maybe Bruce could have taken some home? ;D
I always feel catering is never maximised. In the same way I'm sure that adding more staff would more than cover their costs given how many more beers they would sell if the queues were shorter.
Alcohol would be an interesting one, because you can at least take your food to your seat if it takes you all of half-time to queue for it, but alcohol you then have to watch the match on the TV until you're finished, which probably puts some off.
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I almost never have a pint at half time because of the queue. If the wait was just a minute or so I'd probably have one most games. I'm sure there must be loads of people in the same boat.
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I almost never have a pint at half time because of the queue. If the wait was just a minute or so I'd probably have one most games. I'm sure there must be loads of people in the same boat.
Absolutely - went to Allianz at Bayern and got served twice a pint at HT. At Villa I didn't manage to get one served before 2nd half kicked off.
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They best re-open the bloody kiosks and stock well up on pies.
Five matches in a row I failed to get a balti pie last season, five! >:(
Five? I'd have been fuming. There's no excuse for that.
My pre-match ritual is a balti pie and a pint (or two). You may have been lucky to miss out on 5 pies in a row last season...some of the overcooked burnt concrete offerings I received in the Holte were beyond a joke! I won’t be mugged off with a dodgy pie so got replacements or refunds a few times...and the catering staff look suitably embarrassed that their thick as pig shit colleagues can’t heat a pie at the correct temperature.
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I was really expecting the Spurs stadium to be much better on the service point. Pints already poured and served in seconds by an army of androids or something. Instead it was the usual motley crew of minimum wage temps.
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I was really expecting the Spurs stadium to be much better on the service point. Pints already poured and served in seconds by an army of androids or something. Instead it was the usual motley crew of minimum wage temps.
Was excellent service in the boxes... 8)
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I was really expecting the Spurs stadium to be much better on the service point. Pints already poured and served in seconds by an army of androids or something. Instead it was the usual motley crew of minimum wage temps.
Was excellent service in the boxes... 8)
No it wasn't 8) 8) 8)
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Here's a (possibly stupid) question, does anyone know if "paper" tickets scan at the turnstiles from a phone or do i definitely have to print it out?
I got in using my phone for every game last season. I did have a print out just in case though.
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I work in Stockport 3 times a week and tonight they are at home playing Barrow in what constitutes the Conference league so I fancied going along rather than sit in a hotel bar etc
£18 a ticket :o
makes you appreciate VP a little more as value for money
Im not going now BTW
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When you compare the relative proportion of their income that comes from gate receipts it makes more sense. I think it's a tenner to get in at Sutton Coldfield Town for the same reason!
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I thought £10- maybe £12 would have been reasonable but £18 I think is steep. And that is for all 4 areas of the ground its not like those are the expensive seats
Compare to Salford city who are in the actual League and it is £10 per game - I was going there instead but the game is sold out
Will watch in pub instead
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I thought £10- maybe £12 would have been reasonable but £18 I think is steep. And that is for all 4 areas of the ground its not like those are the expensive seats
Compare to Salford city who are in the actual League and it is £10 per game - I was going there instead but the game is sold out
Will watch in pub instead
That would be the same Salford city bankrolled by millionaires yes?
I'm not criticising your decision, I often think similar when I consider parting with £14 for a Tamworth game. But I do appreciate how much more urgently they need to generate money from tickets.
Pretty sure most Premier league clubs could survive comfortably just on TV money and merchandise sales. Hopefully the prices are reasonable in the pub you choose later!
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I thought £10- maybe £12 would have been reasonable but £18 I think is steep. And that is for all 4 areas of the ground its not like those are the expensive seats
Compare to Salford city who are in the actual League and it is £10 per game - I was going there instead but the game is sold out
Will watch in pub instead
That would be the same Salford city bankrolled by millionaires yes?
I'm not criticising your decision, I often think similar when I consider parting with £14 for a Tamworth game. But I do appreciate how much more urgently they need to generate money from tickets.
Pretty sure most Premier league clubs could survive comfortably just on TV money and merchandise sales. Hopefully the prices are reasonable in the pub you choose later!
There was a report a year or two ago that said rather than survive, half the Premier League would still be profitable if they let everyone in for free.
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As long as the demand is there, they'll fleece fans for what they can get away with.
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I'm not sure there's massive demand for Stockport v Barrow!
Hookey probably could've had a stand to himself!
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I'm not sure there's massive demand for Stockport v Barrow!
Hookey probably could've had a stand to himself!
Stockport are starting to rise again after a decade of misery (when I first started watching football in late 90s they were a solid mid table championship club and regularly beating Man. City).
Attendance tonight, 4,183. More than plenty of league cup ties I'd imagine.
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About 10% of average PL revenue is gate receipts from normal seats, and it’s getting less. For non-league the opposite is probably true.
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Conference clubs have the dilemma of either being full-time when they can't afford it or part-time and effectively saying they have no ambition. The only way to bridge that is to charge what might seem excessive prices.
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My mate who is a Wednesday fan says the club uses this argument to justify their stratospheric prices at Hillsborough
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My mate who is a Wednesday fan says the club uses this argument to justify their stratospheric prices at Hillsborough
If I worked for Sheff Wednesday if argue it was the cost of repairs on their ramshackle ground that drive ticket prices up!
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It was like going to a match in a time machine last season. Even down to the tuck shop underneath the stand.
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I thought £10- maybe £12 would have been reasonable but £18 I think is steep. And that is for all 4 areas of the ground its not like those are the expensive seats
Compare to Salford city who are in the actual League and it is £10 per game - I was going there instead but the game is sold out
Will watch in pub instead
That would be the same Salford city bankrolled by millionaires yes?
I'm not criticising your decision, I often think similar when I consider parting with £14 for a Tamworth game. But I do appreciate how much more urgently they need to generate money from tickets.
Pretty sure most Premier league clubs could survive comfortably just on TV money and merchandise sales. Hopefully the prices are reasonable in the pub you choose later!
Aren't they actually subsidised by a Singaporean billionaire?
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I thought £10- maybe £12 would have been reasonable but £18 I think is steep. And that is for all 4 areas of the ground its not like those are the expensive seats
Compare to Salford city who are in the actual League and it is £10 per game - I was going there instead but the game is sold out
Will watch in pub instead
That would be the same Salford city bankrolled by millionaires yes?
I'm not criticising your decision, I often think similar when I consider parting with £14 for a Tamworth game. But I do appreciate how much more urgently they need to generate money from tickets.
Pretty sure most Premier league clubs could survive comfortably just on TV money and merchandise sales. Hopefully the prices are reasonable in the pub you choose later!
Aren't they actually subsidised by a Singaporean billionaire?
Peter Lim, so yes more zeroes than a class of 92 reunion.
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Anyone know where you can join the ballot for away tickets at Palace?
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Palace away tickets sold out.
I've got 4 season tickets this year, but when I logged on to try and get two tickets for Palace this evening, I was only allowed to buy one. It was the same for Spurs. That can't be right can it?
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Anyone know where you can join the ballot for away tickets at Palace?
If it's like Spurs, they'll do it now that the tickets have officially sold out I guess.
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You have to link up your season tickets as friends, then assign the tickets on purchase.
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You have to link up your season tickets as friends, then assign the tickets on purchase.
How does one do that?
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What happened to the club’s assurance that they would reintroduce resale of unused season tickets this season? For example, I can’t make West Ham and would rather resell my 2 tickets for buttons than have them go wasted
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What happened to the club’s assurance that they would reintroduce resale of unused season tickets this season? For example, I can’t make West Ham and would rather resell my 2 tickets for buttons than have them go wasted
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You can sell them. Login to your account online, click onto your name and scroll down to where it says ticket resale. At this stage you can only resell Bournemouth and Everton tickets though.
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What happened to the club’s assurance that they would reintroduce resale of unused season tickets this season? For example, I can’t make West Ham and would rather resell my 2 tickets for buttons than have them go wasted
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You can sell them. Login to your account online, click onto your name and scroll down to where it says ticket resale. At this stage you can only resell Bournemouth and Everton tickets though.
Thank you 👍
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You have to link up your season tickets as friends, then assign the tickets on purchase.
How does one do that?
Sign in to the tickets section, click on your name, scroll down to the My Friends & Family section, click on 'manage my relationships', and follow the instructions.
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You have to link up your season tickets as friends, then assign the tickets on purchase.
How does one do that?
Sign in to the tickets section, click on your name, scroll down to the My Friends & Family section, click on 'manage my relationships', and follow the instructions.
Thanks, have created the relationships. Does it automatically assign a ticket to one of the family members you've created?
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Nah if you try to buy without assigning to someone else then it flags up the error, and you just have to assign the ticket to someone else...if I recall correctly, their names are selectable from a dropdown box.
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Has anyone else not got their Claret membership pack?
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Still waiting for two.
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We get a pack?
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Has anyone else not got their Claret membership pack?
no, 9 weeks now
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Not yet, can't log in to rewards to see if I have enough / need more points to enter away ballots. Spurs was free - rest need points apparently. Not at home until back from Bournemouth game.
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Palace away tickets sold out.
I've got 4 season tickets this year, but when I logged on to try and get two tickets for Palace this evening, I was only allowed to buy one. It was the same for Spurs. That can't be right can it?
They were marked sold out before 5pm. If you even got one you did well, likely if you had all the profiles linked, you’d still have only got one.
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Nah if you try to buy without assigning to someone else then it flags up the error, and you just have to assign the ticket to someone else...if I recall correctly, their names are selectable from a dropdown box.
I noticed the other day my fan ID had changed from what it's always been. Could've been due to moving house but that was over 5 years ago. Anyway had a play around with Everton and seems I could input my old ID and up came two tickets ready to be purchased. Is this loophole or would it could up as void when purchase was made?
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Do you mean you logged in using your old ID or tried to assign tickets to your old ID?
If it's the latter, and I don't know for sure so I'm only guessing, then if your old ID exists on the system as a live account then the transaction would probably still go through, and the ticket assigned to the booking history of that account. Whether or not you want booking history associated to your old account or if you want it assigned to someone else is another question.
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Has anyone else not got their Claret membership pack?
no, 9 weeks now
No. I got an email saying not to worry it will be along shortly, so long and thanks for the 35 quid!
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Do you mean you logged in using your old ID or tried to assign tickets to your old ID?
If it's the latter, and I don't know for sure so I'm only guessing, then if your old ID exists on the system as a live account then the transaction would probably still go through, and the ticket assigned to the booking history of that account. Whether or not you want booking history associated to your old account or if you want it assigned to someone else is another question.
Yeah my old ID. For example I purchased two Norwich tickets in April using it. Will probably only use it for 2-3 games this season as my Dad only comes to that amount of games over a year now so not bothered about setting up an account for him.
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Well if you haven’t bought claret membership on your old ID and you’re not bothered about clocking up a booking history for your old man, then I wouldn’t worry too much about it as you won’t be able to buy tickets until general sale anyway.
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Can someone let me know at what point you can resell your ticket for a particular game? I can't make West Ham but it's not giving me a resale option (that I can find anyway)
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Can someone let me know at what point you can resell your ticket for a particular game? I can't make West Ham but it's not giving me a resale option (that I can find anyway)
Where you buy tickets,
https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/categories/home-tickets if you click more info there is a PDF that opens up for each game coming/on sale
For West Ham
https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/custom/documents/pdf/AVLWHU%20-%20Match%20Info.pdf
Which says
“Refund Deadline: Saturday 14 August - 4:00pm” obviously a couple of weeks back.
Not sure if that’ll be the cut off, others have found the option before and can remind where the option was?
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Thanks PT. No the resell option was pretty much right up the the game day for the Everton game.
Can I just check if anybody season ticket holders are seeing the 'sell this game' option for the West Ham game yet? Just want to check I'm looking in the right place.
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Slightly off topic but I find it incredible that the home ticket page still shows the package for the last four games of last season. I mean WTF?
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It's so as people can buy tickets and use Gary and Phil Neville's time machine to go and watch them.
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Thanks PT. No the resell option was pretty much right up the the game day for the Everton game.
Can I just check if anybody season ticket holders are seeing the 'sell this game' option for the West Ham game yet? Just want to check I'm looking in the right place.
Nope, it's not there.
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This is on another thread ……..Its down to the club when/if you can resell
Even though I have not been in touch with the ticket office today, strangely (nudge nudge wink wink) they sent me an email stating the following
"The resale of season tickets for individual matches is only available once the match has sold out, and is entirely at the club's discretion."
I'm not really sure what prompted them to contact me directly today.
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There were 340 tickets available at lunch time today, so I expect it will sell out this week.
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This is on another thread ……..Its down to the club when/if you can resell
Even though I have not been in touch with the ticket office today, strangely (nudge nudge wink wink) they sent me an email stating the following
"The resale of season tickets for individual matches is only available once the match has sold out, and is entirely at the club's discretion."
I'm not really sure what prompted them to contact me directly today.
So what they said about it being a replacement for Seatwave was a fib?
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Not being able to sell your ticket unless it's a sellout is pretty poor, if that is the case.
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It is the case according to an unprompted email to me today from the club.
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I was just working from this at the time of purchase
According to the FAQ 1/23rd of the ST value if they sell:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/Tickets/season-tickets/season-tickets-faqs
Will I be able to sell my seat via a seat resale programme for games I cannot attend?
Supporters have the benefit of being able to sell their seat using the clubs seat resale programme for matches they are unable to attend.
Supporters can list tickets in advance and may receive 1/23rd of the cost of their season ticket back as a BACS payment subject to seat being resold.
More information will be communicated before the new season.
hopefully gets sorted very soon.
That condition (of resale *only* once sold out) wasn't obviously available before sale, so is a bit questionable, especially the advice of 'in advance' as that contradicts the now announced position, eg a sell out on match day/just before KO day doesn't allow anything in advance.
https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/screenloader.aspx?type=include&page=custom/documents/html/tandc.html#resale is the relevant terms & Conditions that are now available (not sure if they were at actual point of sale) of course it's all at the clubs discretion and they can change terms and conditions.
Just for the record pedants, so 80% of 1/19 is 4/95 refund, so about 80p less than the 1/23 should I ever need to sell.
Would have been nice to be clearer in advance but I guess all fair enough, though it all feels like it's just much easier to pass on to someone we know/on here...
On a more positive i think my Dad's Over 65 ST is *relative* a bargain.
Luton where I've moved to eg offer what works out at a 71% discount to elders so my Dad would eg be paying nearly 1.5x what we pay for his ST at Villa which is only 47% of the cost of my adult one, I'd guess one of the better discounts.
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To be honest I can understand why they don't want to resell already sold season tickets when they have their own tickets available. I just think they should have been more up font about the process.
The Rewards points are a complete mess at the moment too (incorrect points allocated, not sending pin numbers etc), as is getting any response from the support team. I'd obvioulsy prefer them to get things right on the pitch first, but their back of house really does leave a lot to be desired at the moment.
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Anybody still not got their Claret membership card yet? I paid for mine on 19th July and still had nothing. Pretty piss poor I think.
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I got my nephew’s cubs membership today, but still waiting for Mr amfy’s claret one.
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Changing the basis at which they operate the re-sale option is their prerogative I guess, but does not present the ticket office in a good light especially when they start using the word “discretion” to people who paid their money upfront.
Then again supporters have discretion as to whether they buy drinks/food around the ground or a match day programme or a replica kit.
On the subject of the claret membership, my daughter is still awaiting hers bought end of June, early July. I sent an email about this on 9th August after previous contacts and their reply came through recently...
“We are very sorry for the delays in sending out membership cards. Unfortunately, we have had problems with printing the cards due to the unprecedented demand we have experienced. The matter is being resolved imminently and the membership packages are being compiled and dispatched in the coming days”
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So. In that case, the club have had an "unprecedented" amount of money off of people.
How bloody difficult is it to register and print out a few thousand cards?
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I haven't retrieved my card from my wallet once in the last two years of membership. It will be useful if you want the virgin trains discount though. I can't imagine there would be enough points in buying stuff on the card to make it particularly worthwhile but I may be wrong on that.
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My lad's Cubs card came through this week...with his first name spelt in all lower case letters.
Great start Villa!
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Resale is now open for West Ham
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Resale is now open for West Ham
Where can I find this?
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Resale is now open for West Ham
Where can I find this?
Just go into the ticket office site and click on your name and you're into the site.
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Resale is now open for West Ham
Where can I find this?
Just go into the ticket office site and click on your name and you're into the site.
Cheers
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Four consecutive home end sell outs. Very good going.
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Attendances have been very impressive thus far.
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I think Burnley will be the ninth successive Villa Park sell out (not discounting games where the away team haven't sold all their tickets).
I don't know if that has happened in my lifetime. Maybe even in anyone's lifetime.
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Sell outs will be the norm for the season if we stay out of bottom 3.
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They'll be the norm if we are in the bottom three. Only way they will stop is if we are fit adrift with virtually no chance of survival.
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Has anyone had the refund e-mail yet?
I wondered what the options were - it is a straight refund or credit? Is there any incentive for taking the credit?
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Has anyone had the refund e-mail yet?
I wondered what the options were - it is a straight refund or credit? Is there any incentive for taking the credit?
No and I spoke to a couple of mates yesterday who hadn’t had anything yet either.
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Still nothing.
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Still nothing.
Nowt here either.
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No, zilch
Can't even login, says that password is wrong.....tried to reset password......sent.......still waiting for password reset, that was Sunday........
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I logged in ok, bought some face coverings, couldn’t see anything about season tickets.
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Anyone know the reason why the club have still not refunded our money?
Other clubs have refunded their season ticket holders
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They’ve released a statement to say that we will get pro rata back. Not clear if that takes in to account that (I think) 4 of the matches were Category A?
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I’ve seen there’s been an update, but can’t get on the official site.
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Looks like you’ve got until June 14 to ask for a refund. After that, it’s a voucher.
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Where have you heard this, CT?
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Up to 90 days to receive the refund is a long time.
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Where have you heard this, CT?
It's on the statement that the club have put out, I've just read it myself. There is link for you to claim your refund.
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Has the Villa site crashed?
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I have just had a email as well stating amount of my refund.
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What happened to sending out an email to tell supporters like they said they were going to, then?
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3 months to get your money back.
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This is very strange.
I’ve received an email straight away. But my refund amount is just for my ST, not my lads, despite it being paid with the same card. He has his own Fan ID but obviously it comes under my umbrella if you like
Anyway, I just looked at the FAQ’s and saw this.....maybe I’m reading it wrong, but it’s seemingly saying you can only have a refund if you’re not renewing.
Q. I am not planning on renewing my season ticket, can I have a monetary refund?
A. Yes - by completing the online monetary refund request form at https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/FHNCXCM before June 14, 2020, a refund will be made back to the card that was originally used to pay for the season ticket within 90 days.
Q. If I am not renewing, how long do I have to claim a monetary refund?
A. Supporters will have until June 14, 2020 to return the request for a monetary refund. If a supporter does not contact the Club by this date, then they will receive a gift voucher.
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Aston Villa announced last week that all impacted supporters will be reimbursed following confirmation the club’s six remaining home matches of the 2019/20 Premier League season are to be played behind closed doors.
Season ticket holders will receive an e-voucher to the equivalent pro-rata’d value of six matches calculated on the price you paid for your season ticket.
This will be sent to the purchaser of the season ticket to the email address on record. This will be sent within 90 days following June 14.
This e-voucher can be used on any future ticketing purchase, including a future season ticket, home league match tickets, stadium tour or other events.
If you would otherwise like to receive a monetary refund, please click the link below to complete the form. This will be processed within 90 days following June 14 and will be refunded to the credit/debit card used to purchase. If this is not possible, a member of our team will get in touch with you to find the best refund method.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/06/04/ticketing-reimbursement-details
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90 days to reimburse is crap.
I'm a STH and have elected to get the money returned to the credit card.
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Q. What do I do if I have not any details regarding my season ticket reimbursement?
A. If you have not received details of your pro-rata rebate by June 10, 2020, please contact the Ticket Office
And re. financed tickets
"we will contact those that paid using Zebra finance if they opt for a monetary refund, provided they paid fully"
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When will next year’s season tickets be on sale? Presumably not until after these games behind closed doors have sorted out our destiny.
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90 days to reimburse is crap.
I'm a STH and have elected to get the money returned to the credit card.
It says up to 90 days. It doesn't mean it will actually take that long.
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They dont appear to have included refunds for kids STs bought on adults IDs
Is there 19 games, so total value of STs/19 x 6 = refund?
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They dont appear to have included refunds for kids STs bought on adults IDs
Is there 19 games, so total value of STs/19 x 6 = refund?
All good, you just input your own, then go back and input the kids fanID.
All fairly painless, well done so far Villa.
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They dont appear to have included refunds for kids STs bought on adults IDs
Is there 19 games, so total value of STs/19 x 6 = refund?
I’ve just messaged them to ask them about this.
Also, someone has said it looks like if you ask for a refund you lose the booking history and priority on that seat? Surely that can’t be right?
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They dont appear to have included refunds for kids STs bought on adults IDs
Is there 19 games, so total value of STs/19 x 6 = refund?
I’ve just messaged them to ask them about this.
Also, someone has said it looks like if you ask for a refund you lose the booking history and priority on that seat? Surely that can’t be right?
Just fill in the form for the kids too. It doesn’t impact upon next years renewals/booking history etc. if you ask for cash...
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@AVFCSupport
PLEASE NOTE:
Your decision on how you receive your reimbursement will not determine any future decisions the club takes on season ticket renewal process
#AVFC
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They dont appear to have included refunds for kids STs bought on adults IDs
Is there 19 games, so total value of STs/19 x 6 = refund?
I’ve just messaged them to ask them about this.
Also, someone has said it looks like if you ask for a refund you lose the booking history and priority on that seat? Surely that can’t be right?
Just fill in the form for the kids too. It doesn’t impact upon next years renewals/booking history etc. if you ask for cash...
Yes, that looks straightforward. Typical that I’ve updated my card so it’s a different number to the one I bought the ST’s with!
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Done that. All fairly straightforward. Gone for a cash refund on the basis that it’s difficult to foresee when we’ll be able to attend matches again. It might be years.
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I've gone for a refund and the process was easy. Now it's just a matter of working out which card I paid for the ticket on - no idea.
I would have been happy enough with a credit in principal to make the next ST more affordable, but the club just didn't make the option attractive enough. If it had been a credit on your account and 5% early bird discount when you renew or something, that would prob have been good enough for me.
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Done that. All fairly straightforward. Gone for a cash refund on the basis that it’s difficult to foresee when we’ll be able to attend matches again. It might be years.
It won’t be years. But agree cash seems appropriate as it’s probably going to be late this year early next before a return ( I suspect)
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I had my season ticket through zebra finance so i’ll just stick with the e-voucher and knock it off the price of my next one....whenever that might be.
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I agree that cash seems better as we don’t know when we’ll be able to go back.
I’ve just read a story in the Dallas Morning News that they will now be at 50% fan attendance. I saw something similar in Hungary with fans every three seats.
So I wonder if that’s how it will work over here and when?
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I've seen that. You'll be looking at something like one seat in six occupied. Not exactly spread out, the seats at VP, are they?
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I've seen that. You'll be looking at something like one seat in six occupied. Not exactly spread out, the seats at VP, are they?
Be interesting won’t it. They may prioritise same household family groups to sit together then try to make 2 m gaps elsewhere.
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I've seen that. You'll be looking at something like one seat in six occupied. Not exactly spread out, the seats at VP, are they?
Be interesting won’t it. They may prioritise same household family groups to sit together then try to make 2 m gaps elsewhere.
We should all be covered then as Aston Villa is and always has been one massive family 👍
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I've just had my credit card statement and my refund hasn't happened yet. Has anyone had their refund?
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I’m still waiting for mine. Along with 2/3 of the programmes that will be delivered ahead of match day...
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Not yet, I’m still waiting
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I’m sure once one is refunded then the rest will follow. A chain reaction.
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They are starting to reimburse people now according to the clubs Twitter page.
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Nope - they said it would take 'up to 90 days'; nothing like milking our credit!
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Nope - they said it would take 'up to 90 days'; nothing like milking our credit!
I think it's safe to say that a skeleton crew of ticket office folk, making individual payments to up to 30,000 people is going to take a bit of time...
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Nope - they said it would take 'up to 90 days'; nothing like milking our credit!
I think it's safe to say that a skeleton crew of ticket office folk, making individual payments to up to 30,000 people is going to take a bit of time...
I could do it in 5 minutes. Bulk payment upload into the banking system, job done.
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Nope - they said it would take 'up to 90 days'; nothing like milking our credit!
I think it's safe to say that a skeleton crew of ticket office folk, making individual payments to up to 30,000 people is going to take a bit of time...
I could do it in 5 minutes. Bulk payment upload into the banking system, job done.
I dont think refunding season ticket holders is a business as usual process for the Villa.
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They are processing mine this afternoon, they called me to tell me. I think our ticket office staff are wonderful, I've never had any dealings with them when they weren't fair, courteous and patient. They are a credit to our club.
The phone system however, fuck me its soul destroying ringing up, on this occasion 5 times, to press the same series of buttons, enter the same identification digits and then wait 5 minutes before being cut off. Its not as bad as Virgin Media, indeed I cant believe anything this side of Hades is, but still something that could be improved.
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Nope - they said it would take 'up to 90 days'; nothing like milking our credit!
I think it's safe to say that a skeleton crew of ticket office folk, making individual payments to up to 30,000 people is going to take a bit of time...
I could do it in 5 minutes. Bulk payment upload into the banking system, job done.
I dont think refunding season ticket holders is a business as usual process for the Villa.
As long as they've got the data, which they will have, it's a piece of piss. I imagine that 99% of people won't have changed their bank account details, and these days the banking system will even tell you if the bank details are wrong.
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Nope - they said it would take 'up to 90 days'; nothing like milking our credit!
I think it's safe to say that a skeleton crew of ticket office folk, making individual payments to up to 30,000 people is going to take a bit of time...
I could do it in 5 minutes. Bulk payment upload into the banking system, job done.
I dont think refunding season ticket holders is a business as usual process for the Villa.
As long as they've got the data, which they will have, it's a piece of piss. I imagine that 99% of people won't have changed their bank account details, and these days the banking system will even tell you if the bank details are wrong.
Interesting point that as I have a completely different card & number now to the one I bought my two ST’s on.
I assume as it’s still going to same bank account, it will still go through.
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I've left mine with them. Will use it to knock off next seasons.
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They are processing mine this afternoon, they called me to tell me. I think our ticket office staff are wonderful, I've never had any dealings with them when they weren't fair, courteous and patient. They are a credit to our club.
The phone system however, fuck me its soul destroying ringing up, on this occasion 5 times, to press the same series of buttons, enter the same identification digits and then wait 5 minutes before being cut off. Its not as bad as Virgin Media, indeed I cant believe anything this side of Hades is, but still something that could be improved.
I'd just like to echo this regarding the staff, a long way from the miserable bastard with the bumfluff moustache in the late 80's, who made you feel like you were trying to cross Checkpoint Charlie
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a West Ham friend of mine told me they are selling season tickets for the full season and any games that you don’t/can’t go to will be refunded
he’s not to happy having to fork out for a season ticket he probably won’t be able to use until next year
anyone heard anything regarding our plans ?
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a West Ham friend of mine told me they are selling season tickets for the full season and any games that you don’t/can’t go to will be refunded
he’s not to happy having to fork out for a season ticket he probably won’t be able to use until next year
anyone heard anything regarding our plans ?
Tough situation for a club not looking to completely fleece their fans, like West Ham.
I think they’ll just wait. I reckon it will be January at the earliest before they trial fans coming back in now. Who knows what will be going on with the virus over the winter months?
How they will then decide who gets to actually attend will get interesting.
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a West Ham friend of mine told me they are selling season tickets for the full season and any games that you don’t/can’t go to will be refunded
he’s not to happy having to fork out for a season ticket he probably won’t be able to use until next year
anyone heard anything regarding our plans ?
Tough situation for a club not looking to completely fleece their fans, like West Ham.
I think they’ll just wait. I reckon it will be January at the earliest before they trial fans coming back in now. Who knows what will be going on with the virus over the winter months?
How they will then decide who gets to actually attend will get interesting.
WH are doing it by ballot they’ve been told
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Any refunds for Claret members?
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I asked about refunds for Cubs members too and was told they would be in touch.
That was about two months ago...