Jacob Ramsey - Gone

[Smithy]

TM: https://x.com/avfcstatto/status/1957196958541717977?s=46&t=GdM6cpVxe5IloByNCRheWA

Hmmm …. He’s a good man, Tyrone Mings. Really do wonder what he is aware of there.

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Presume he is suggesting that Ramsey might not have wanted to leave, but was told that he had to due to financial constraints?

I'm sure I read earlier this year that JJ was on a really low paid contract. He may have been on a promise to bring his contract in line with other regular first teamers and the numbers weren't even close yet we are prepared to through shed loads at Rogers and Kamara who was reported to be offered the highest contract we've ever paid out?

Quick google: He was on £596 a week in our promotion season; £7500 a week in our first season back. The following season it jumped up to £70k and has remained there until he left.

I didn't realise he was already on £70k a week.  I thought that's the level we'd have been offering him on a NEW contract.  I'm guessing he wanted £100k+ (not entirely unreasonable given what other players are on).   I wonder what Newcastle offered him (bearing mind Isak is only on £120k)

[Demitri_C]

In very simple terms.

Psr - domestic league.  You cannot lose more than £105m per season on a rolling three year period.  We did. Well we would’ve done had we not added to our revenue by selling the women’s team.

SCR - Europe.  No team is allowed to have a greater than 70 percent spent on wages against total turnover.  Ours at one stage was over 90 percent.

Hence why this year we have had to focus on bringing the wage bill down to comply with SCR.  But the Ramsey sale gives us more opportunity albeit limited to bring a couple in.

Does that help?

Thanks kippa very helpful

[ChicagoLion]

yep, that game at Old Trafford.
We are going to be paying for that for a very long time.

[London Villan]

With EMi's reaction at the end of the the game before I wonder if the atmosphere affected the squad before the man u fcuk up. Half a dozen players being told they might need to be sold can't have done much for morale!

[AV84]

If we hadn't lost the Man U game and qualified for CL again that would have meant our financial situation was much healthier, wouldn't it? Should have been motivation.

[Sexual Ealing]

If we hadn't lost the Man U game and qualified for CL again that would have meant our financial situation was much healthier, wouldn't it? Should have been motivation.

When it's all on the line, this group does not take that as motivation.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

TM: https://x.com/avfcstatto/status/1957196958541717977?s=46&t=GdM6cpVxe5IloByNCRheWA

Hmmm …. He’s a good man, Tyrone Mings. Really do wonder what he is aware of there.

—

Presume he is suggesting that Ramsey might not have wanted to leave, but was told that he had to due to financial constraints?

I'm sure I read earlier this year that JJ was on a really low paid contract. He may have been on a promise to bring his contract in line with other regular first teamers and the numbers weren't even close yet we are prepared to through shed loads at Rogers and Kamara who was reported to be offered the highest contract we've ever paid out?

Quick google: He was on £596 a week in our promotion season; £7500 a week in our first season back. The following season it jumped up to £70k and has remained there until he left.

I didn't realise he was already on £70k a week.  I thought that's the level we'd have been offering him on a NEW contract.  I'm guessing he wanted £100k+ (not entirely unreasonable given what other players are on).   I wonder what Newcastle offered him (bearing mind Isak is only on £120k)

I wouldn't bet 100% on those numbers for Ramsey. On reflection, the number I had in my head for his last contract was 40-45k, well below what we were paying our first teamers. Plus, I don't see the club, any club, jumping his wages from £7.5k to £75k. The only thing I recall was we were kind of taking the piss because he'd made it through the academy and not an expensive purchase.

[kippaxvilla2]

I maintain Ramsey didn’t want to leave.

[olaftab]

It's with heavy heart that I say goodbye to Jacob. Would wish him the best individually but hope his club is not successful.

[paul_e]

I maintain Ramsey didn’t want to leave.

Whether he wanted to leave or not is immaterial if he wouldn't sign the contracts we were offering him. As I said a few days ago, he's not in the wrong for holding out for what he knew he could get elsewhere but we're also not in the wrong for deciding what our limit was and sticking to it and then letting hi leave on our terms for a fee we're happy with when talks broke down.

[PeterWithe]

He was listed as being on £75k on that list someone posted on here a few weeks ago, all the other numbers looked reasonable on it.

[eamonn]

If we hadn't lost the Man U game and qualified for CL again that would have meant our financial situation was much healthier, wouldn't it? Should have been motivation.

We still would have had to come out of this summer with a net positive transfer balance for UEFA and had to lower the wage bill, wouldn't we?

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

It's with heavy heart that I say goodbye to Jacob. Would wish him the best individually but hope his club is not successful.

Very much this.