Jacob Ramsey - Gone

[Nunkin1965]

I don't get the logic that because someone is offered a contract he's somehow leeching off his employer.
We'd all do the same and expect terms to be honoured.

[Steve67]

Why is Dendoncker a ‘leech’? He didn’t force the club to give him the contract it did.

Because he's shit and has taken 90k a week from us.  Not his fault at all as he was offered and took the contract like anyone would.  Hasn't worked out for either party but he's a very rich man thanks to silly (former) people at the club.  A leech sucks blood, in dendonker's case, money.  Money that we could use elsewhere if not for SCR/PSR shite.  Poor old Leander eh!

[Ads]

I can't fathom how or why we offered him £90k per week.

[Nunkin1965]

Im not even sure if he was a regular in the Wolves team at the time.
Still if he was offered that deal, he, like any one of us would take it!

[Dave]

Don't think we are paying him £90k per week. All the footballer salary websites have him at $4.7m per year, so $90k per week, or £75k or so.

Not that it changes things that much.

As for why we offered him that, seems it was what Wolves were paying him, so if we wanted him then there's no reason he needed to accept a pay cut to join us.

[Clampy]

Why is Dendoncker a ‘leech’? He didn’t force the club to give him the contract it did.

Because he's shit and has taken 90k a week from us.  Not his fault at all as he was offered and took the contract like anyone would.  Hasn't worked out for either party but he's a very rich man thanks to silly (former) people at the club.  A leech sucks blood, in dendonker's case, money.  Money that we could use elsewhere if not for SCR/PSR shite.  Poor old Leander eh!

There's not much we can do until someone comes in for him.

[PaulWinch again]

Why is Dendoncker a ‘leech’? He didn’t force the club to give him the contract it did.

Because he's shit and has taken 90k a week from us.  Not his fault at all as he was offered and took the contract like anyone would.  Hasn't worked out for either party but he's a very rich man thanks to silly (former) people at the club.  A leech sucks blood, in dendonker's case, money.  Money that we could use elsewhere if not for SCR/PSR shite.  Poor old Leander eh!

Yeah but a leech implies he’s doing something wrong, he’s not. He’s played when called upon, kept fit etc. It’s not his fault management changed after he signed.

[London Villan]

I can't fathom how or why we offered him £90k per week.

Becuase we were desperate and St£vi£ M££ wanted Luiz out.

[PeterWithesShin]

Dendoncker did a Barson and turned up with a gun to force us to give him the contract we did.

[brontebilly]

I can't fathom how or why we offered him £90k per week.

Becuase we were desperate and St£vi£ M££ wanted Luiz out.

Gerrard rated Luiz highly so that ain't true either. Looked like he was off to Arsenal at the time and we were getting bullied in midfield most weeks. Not the craziest signing at the time for that horrible midfield three Gerrard had.

When Emery switched up the midfield setup it became clear quickly the Donk didn't have the technical skills to play in our two. That first summer under Emery was the time to move him in if we could.

[London Villan]

I'm not sure - didn't he drop Watkins, Luiz and Mings for the start of the season?

[Drummond]

Someone had to go.

Martinez
Watkins
Kamara
Ramsey
McGinn

They are the players where we'd make the biggest gain for the FFP stuff. From that list, Ramsey is the one who has given us the least over the past 3 years, albeit the one with the most potential for improvement. I'm sure we did offer a new contract, it was probably very low, thus forcing him out. The alternative for him of course was to sit out the remainder of his contract and leave on a free, with huge future contract potential, but then to run the risk of injuries limiting it.

He's almost certainly worth more than we offered, hence his refusal to sign a new deal. We have our hands tied, because the players we'd be more keen to sell, Dendoncker, Bailey, Buendia etc. just wouldn't give us any room to improve.

It's a shit situation, I'd much rather he stayed, but it's right that he's the one to go from the list I put above, if we are indeed havign to sell one.

[cdbearsfan]

He did. Luiz didn't start any of our first three league games that season, and only got a guaranteed place once Kamara got injured.

[London Villan]

Someone had to go.

Martinez
Watkins
Kamara
Ramsey
McGinn

They are the players where we'd make the biggest gain for the FFP stuff. From that list, Ramsey is the one who has given us the least over the past 3 years, albeit the one with the most potential for improvement. I'm sure we did offer a new contract, it was probably very low, thus forcing him out. The alternative for him of course was to sit out the remainder of his contract and leave on a free, with huge future contract potential, but then to run the risk of injuries limiting it.

He's almost certainly worth more than we offered, hence his refusal to sign a new deal. We have our hands tied, because the players we'd be more keen to sell, Dendoncker, Bailey, Buendia etc. just wouldn't give us any room to improve.

It's a shit situation, I'd much rather he stayed, but it's right that he's the one to go from the list I put above, if we are indeed havign to sell one.

This is my thought - the best of a load of bad options... I hope we can re-invest some of it over the coming 2 weeks.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

TM: https://x.com/avfcstatto/status/1957196958541717977?s=46&t=GdM6cpVxe5IloByNCRheWA

Hmmm …. He’s a good man, Tyrone Mings. Really do wonder what he is aware of there.

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Presume he is suggesting that Ramsey might not have wanted to leave, but was told that he had to due to financial constraints?

I'm sure I read earlier this year that JJ was on a really low paid contract. He may have been on a promise to bring his contract in line with other regular first teamers and the numbers weren't even close yet we are prepared to through shed loads at Rogers and Kamara who was reported to be offered the highest contract we've ever paid out?

Quick google: He was on £596 a week in our promotion season; £7500 a week in our first season back. The following season it jumped up to £70k and has remained there until he left.