Jacob Ramsey

[Pat Mustard]

Also look how much Omari Hutchings is going for, almost the same amount but less proven (albeit a bit younger).

Ipswich turned down Brentford's offer of £35m because they wanted it all up front. Brentford had to wait til they sold Mbuemo, in the meantime Marinakis blundered into Suffolk with suitcases of scruffy tenners and the boy is on his way to Nottingham.

Unfortunately with Ramsey, we can't factor out his injury record in the last few years - it makes a massive difference to ours and others valuations, and it's one we've been stung on before.  I seem to remember us holding out for £15 million for Keinan Davis from Forest after his successful loan there a few years back.  They wouldn't pay it and we ended up with nothing, when they probably would have taken him for a few million less.

[PeterWithe]

i got home last night from travelling for work for a few days and my boy os really gutted about JJ and the fact we’ve seemingly had to sell him. As all players who decide to leave Villa, he’s gone for me now, but the local lad leaving element can’t be understated really.

Aye, I think this is it, just a feeling of sadness that a lad who has spent all his career here, and was good enough to play CL football with us, and excel at it, has to go to satisfy some arcane bureaucratic rules.

And he wouldn't sign a new contract.

But the rules are limiting what contracts we can offer.

[PeterWithesShin]

Maybe he wants to leave, maybe he wants more a lot more money than we think he's worth, maybe we think he's going to have significant future injury issues. There's any number of reasons he could be leaving besides just financial rules.

[Baldy]

JJ has qualities but in my humble opinion not enough to ever make us title challengers. He lacked that crunching tackle, that 'never say die attitude' and the blood, sweat and tears required to bring him and us to the next level.

We still have a few of them players in our squad. When the going gets tough, they disappear. Unai needs to focus on this and not just the pretty stuff. Letting JJ go is a step in the right direction.

With his injury record, 40 million sounds a good deal to me.

It should also get Rogers into his more productive position instead of being mainly redundant on the right. With 40 million and hopefully funds from a Bailey sale (he has had enough chances) we can at least get a quality right winger.

I wish JJ all the best for whatever path he takes.

[PeterWithe]

Yup, all those things could be true, but we know that the financial rules are restricting our ability to operate as we wish to.

[SamTheMouse]

He's a cracking player, and I'll be sad to see him go.

On the other hand, he spends far too much time on the treatment table. And the money seems about right.

The only real pisser is the fact that he's going to the bastard Saudis.

[ChicagoLion]

Maybe he wants to leave, maybe he wants more a lot more money than we think he's worth, maybe we think he's going to have significant future injury issues. There's any number of reasons he could be leaving besides just financial rules.

Yes, All of this.

[brontebilly]

Maybe he wants to leave, maybe he wants more a lot more money than we think he's worth, maybe we think he's going to have significant future injury issues. There's any number of reasons he could be leaving besides just financial rules.

With 2 years left on his contract, we were under no pressure to sell or offer him a new deal. If he had a strong season, no reason to think he wouldn't with less competition for his place, he would be worth a lot more than 40m this time next year.

Maybe Emery doesn't overly rate him, he has made big decisions before and got them right, but this summer wasn't the time for me to let JJ go to a rival.

[PeterWithesShin]

If he had another season like the last 2 he'd be worth a lot less. Why not think about that as well? Or again, maybe he wants to leave. Should we keep a player that doesn't want to be here?

[PeterWithesShin]

Mr Steal Mytoilet has his say on the Beeb

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c70xjdl0ye1o

[Brend'Watkins]

Mr Steal Mytoilet has his say on the Beeb

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c70xjdl0ye1o

I was wondering what the hell you were talking about there😀

[danno]

Does Ramsey going open the door slightly for Samuel Iling Junior? Or is he probably going out on loan again?

[Exeter 77]

I thought it might be more of an opening for Jimoh-Aloba

[frank black]

I thought it might be more of an opening for Jimoh-Aloba

I’d agree, he looks very promising indeed

[brontebilly]

If he had another season like the last 2 he'd be worth a lot less. Why not think about that as well? Or again, maybe he wants to leave. Should we keep a player that doesn't want to be here?

Any player can get seriously injured. He wasn't that bad last season in any case (performances when fit or fitness wise). Anyway it's done.