Jacob Ramsey

[john2710]

We aren't being forced to sell him. He's a squad player not a first 11 starter. We've made him offers we think are fair, given past performances & potential, within the restrictions on salary imposed from UEFA.

He's decided he's more likely to play at Newcastle & he gets a salary increase & signing on fee.

I was told in April, by someone who knows the family, he was going to Newcastle. The only reason it hasn't happened before now is because Newcastle weren't paying what we wanted.

[PaulWinch again]

Seems fair enough, he is a squad player here for all his potential. I don’t think he gets in the best 11, certainly not based on the last couple of years.

[VillaTim]

sad state of affairs, who goes next summer - Rogers ?

[Rigadon]

sad state of affairs, who goes next summer - Rogers ?

If he has a season like last one or better, I'm absolutely convinced he'll be off.  I'm surprised he hasn't been sold already to be honest.  That's not a criticism of the club or player either, just the obvious, cold hard reality of where we sit in the modern-day pecking order and the rules that keep it that way.

[Drummond]

A couple of Easters ago, my lad was just hanging around our high st with his mates, when Emery and the Villa 1st team turned up for an Italian meal. My lad and his mates nearly exploded with excitement, they were 13 at the time. Ive got photo’s of him with Bert, Beundia (he said he was moody), Konsa, Cash, Martinez (one for the ages) and Ramsey. Out of all the players he had a photo with, he loved the one with Ramsey the most, local hero, said he was really friendly etc.
i got home last night from travelling for work for a few days and my boy os really gutted about JJ and the fact we’ve seemingly had to sell him.
As all players who decide to leave Villa, he’s gone for me now, but the local lad leaving element can’t be understated really.

My lad is a bit gutted too. Another shirt to ditch to go with Coutinho, Grealish. Thank fuck we kept Watkins and Martinez, that's all I'm saying.

[Villatillidie25]

Can you buy a shirt with Dendonker, Buendia and Bailey on the back please…

[john e]

A couple of Easters ago, my lad was just hanging around our high st with his mates, when Emery and the Villa 1st team turned up for an Italian meal. My lad and his mates nearly exploded with excitement, they were 13 at the time. Ive got photo’s of him with Bert, Beundia (he said he was moody), Konsa, Cash, Martinez (one for the ages) and Ramsey. Out of all the players he had a photo with, he loved the one with Ramsey the most, local hero, said he was really friendly etc.
i got home last night from travelling for work for a few days and my boy os really gutted about JJ and the fact we’ve seemingly had to sell him.
As all players who decide to leave Villa, he’s gone for me now, but the local lad leaving element can’t be understated really.

My lad is a bit gutted too. Another shirt to ditch to go with Coutinho, Grealish. Thank fuck we kept Watkins and Martinez, that's all I'm saying.

My kids are still wearing hand me downs with Collymore and Davis on the back

[ChicagoLion]

sad state of affairs, who goes next summer - Rogers ?

If he has a season like last one or better, I'm absolutely convinced he'll be off.  I'm surprised he hasn't been sold already to be honest.  That's not a criticism of the club or player either, just the obvious, cold hard reality of where we sit in the modern-day pecking order and the rules that keep it that way.

Sadly.

[PeterWithe]

i got home last night from travelling for work for a few days and my boy os really gutted about JJ and the fact we’ve seemingly had to sell him. As all players who decide to leave Villa, he’s gone for me now, but the local lad leaving element can’t be understated really.

Aye, I think this is it, just a feeling of sadness that a lad who has spent all his career here, and was good enough to play CL football with us, and excel at it, has to go to satisfy some arcane bureaucratic rules.

[Stinkin_Thinkin]

Seems fair enough, he is a squad player here for all his potential. I don’t think he gets in the best 11, certainly not based on the last couple of years.

Its going to be tough for him to get in the newcastle team. They have Bruno Gimeres, Tonali and Joelinton as their rotational foulers in the centre and out wide they're stacked with quality too. He's swapping one bench for another (with a nice bit on extra bunse in his pocket) I certainly don't see it as Emery's Cahill moment

[ChicagoLion]

i got home last night from travelling for work for a few days and my boy os really gutted about JJ and the fact we’ve seemingly had to sell him. As all players who decide to leave Villa, he’s gone for me now, but the local lad leaving element can’t be understated really.

Aye, I think this is it, just a feeling of sadness that a lad who has spent all his career here, and was good enough to play CL football with us, and excel at it, has to go to satisfy some arcane bureaucratic rules.

And he wouldn't sign a new contract.

[eamonn]

Interesting if true that he effectively made his mind up last season. I did think Rashford coming in would cause issues for his playing time.

Ultimately though, much as I am against this move, if he had stepped-up his form in the spring and made himself undroppable like Rogers has, he may have got the new contract he wanted.

It's interesting reading views on the transfer fee, some people saying we've made a killing, others feeling we should have held out for more. I guess he's arguably played like a £20m player for the last couple of seasons. In Unai's first 6 months, he looked like he could be worth £60m with a rising ceiling. Split the difference and that's where we've ended-up.

I just have a fear that Howe has wanted him for ages, will see him as a pet-project and £40m will look a steal. And it will be at a team we're just as good as, not Citeh where our better players have tended to go.

[eamonn]

Also look how much Omari Hutchings is going for, almost the same amount but less proven (albeit a bit younger).

Ipswich turned down Brentford's offer of £35m because they wanted it all up front. Brentford had to wait til they sold Mbuemo, in the meantime Marinakis blundered into Suffolk with suitcases of scruffy tenners and the boy is on his way to Nottingham.

[Drummond]

Yep, but then again, how many players go on to bigger and better things after leaving us?

Ramsey has had two semi finals, a Champions League quarter, finished 4th, 6th and 7th in the Premier League, is he really going to do much better with Newcastle? We're talking increments now, which is why last season's Top 4 have all gone out and had to spend a fortune, they've seen what we, Newcastle, Forest, Palace etc have done and are shitting it.

[brontebilly]

Yep, but then again, how many players go on to bigger and better things after leaving us?

Ramsey has had two semi finals, a Champions League quarter, finished 4th, 6th and 7th in the Premier League, is he really going to do much better with Newcastle? We're talking increments now, which is why last season's Top 4 have all gone out and had to spend a fortune, they've seen what we, Newcastle, Forest, Palace etc have done and are shitting it.

He's back playing CL football for starters. But agreed, ourselves, Newcastle, Forest et al - not sure how we can realistically compete for regular CL football when Chelsea are allowed to buy who they like, Man City continue to get away with pretty blatant book cooking.