Jacob Ramsey - Gone

[Dogtanian]

Howe should be cast into the pit for all eternity, having sacrificed all morals to work for such a regime.

Even if he is telling the truth, his very words stink like the sulphurous depths of Satan's bedchamber.

[pablo_picasso]

Utter load of tosh. "Raise funds by June" in which case he means Thursday cause window doesnt reopen until July!
Also - same Newcastle who couldnt even afford a loan for Kalvin Phillips..............

Yeah, strange story.

If we "have" to sell to be FFP compliant in June, then why have we just splashed out £6M on that Serbian RB whose name I cant spell & attempting to bring in Rogers for more money than he is worth?

We certainly wouldn't be selling him for £50M considering some of the other dross that has gone for £100M in recent times.

And Newcastle are in the same FFP situation as we are, albeit they have the Saudi league buying their players when they dance too close to the fire.

But I cant see us selling to a direct rival.

[Percy McCarthy]

Ornstein isn't even the journalist that covers us for the Athletic.

No, but he does lead on their transfer stuff.

Yeah, it's like saying Fabrizio Romano isn't a Villa specialist. Ornstein is a transfers guy, and I'd believe 100 stories he puts out before I believe one thing Eddie Howe says.

He also said Matt Targett is injured, which is true.

Now give me your hundred transfer rumours that Ornstein got right.

Tbf, he's only said that Newcastle made an enquiry. Presumably we laughed, told them we'd see them tomorrow night and put the phone down on them.

https://x.com/skysportspl/status/1751923978883493924?s=46&t=GdM6cpVxe5IloByNCRheWA

I've seen five year olds lie more convincingly.

I’ve got six kids, and haven’t. They’re really shit at lying.

[Monty]

Ha that was my point, but happy to bow to your experience on this one!

[VillaTim]

so the NUFC manager clearly shuts this one down . Move along

[Percy McCarthy]

so the NUFC manager clearly shuts this one down . Move along

He’s lying apparently.

[VillaTim]

so the NUFC manager clearly shuts this one down . Move along

He’s lying apparently.

christ yeah how did i not spot that . the way he says "That's incorrect" . He looks shifty

[Percy McCarthy]

so the NUFC manager clearly shuts this one down . Move along

He’s lying apparently.

christ yeah how did i not spot that . the way he says "That's incorrect" . He looks shifty

I know, dead giveaway. He didn’t even bother with that ‘I don’t comment on other clubs’ players’ thing they all say when they really are interested. He must think we were all born yesterday.

We should definitely be bracing ourselves. Unai will confirm the sale at 2pm.

[Monty]

I don't think for a second he's going to Newcastle. I think it's likely they asked and we laughed and that's it.

[Percy McCarthy]

I don't think for a second he's going to Newcastle. I think it's likely they asked and we laughed and that's it.

See to me, the most unlikely part is FFP-stricken Newcastle making an offer. Our track record on academy players makes me think we’d consider it if it were true.

[Monty]

I don't think for a second he's going to Newcastle. I think it's likely they asked and we laughed and that's it.

See to me, the most unlikely part is FFP-stricken Newcastle making an offer. Our track record on academy players makes me think we’d consider it if it were true.

I think they're assuming money's coming in for Almiron, and that some of that might be able to go on a replacement, but that Ramsey's a no-go because he'd cost too much even with the Miggy Money.

[Dogtanian]

Newcastle and Villa are competing with each other. Both have hit the FFP ceiling and are trying to keep improving while complying.

Why would one help the other with their FFP while negatively impacting their own?

[chrisw1]

Newcastle and Villa are competing with each other. Both have hit the FFP ceiling and are trying to keep improving while complying.

Why would one help the other with their FFP while negatively impacting their own?

Because at £50m over 5 years Ramsey would be a good player for them and by selling Almiron they would have been up on FFP.

Either way, it's clearly not happening and I agree with Percy that Howe's press conference is unequivocal.

[VillaTim]

someone needs to spend at least £50m on Almiron before they can even consider Ramsey. All in the next 48 hours .
This is where Ornstein and The Athletic tie themselves up in knots and lose further credibility. they are no better than scrolling through X
on Almiron, David Ornstein in The Athletic has highlighted this unity, quoting Howe saying, “his priority for this window is just to keep hold of his players.”

[Percy McCarthy]

Newcastle and Villa are competing with each other. Both have hit the FFP ceiling and are trying to keep improving while complying.

Why would one help the other with their FFP while negatively impacting their own?

I don’t think we’ve hit the FFP ceiling.

£99.5m loss (2020) drops out of our 3-year FFP cycle this year, leaving us with £37m loss (2021) and £400k profit (2022), leaving us headroom for an allowable £70m loss in the next (2023) accounts. Given turnover has gone up £38m, we should be nowhere near that.

Calling Risso to the thread.