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Offline Sexual Ealing

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #2100 on: January 29, 2024, 10:51:15 AM »
Ornstein isn't even the journalist that covers us for the Athletic.

No, but he does lead on their transfer stuff.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #2101 on: January 29, 2024, 10:51:57 AM »
Ornstein is a very good journalist with Percy levels of trustworthiness, writing for the athletic, which is an extremely well regarded publication and far from a pedlar of rubbish.
Exactly.  And a far wider network of contacts because of it.

I agree, but he’s blotted his copybook on this one.
Not if he's right he hasn't.

“That’s incorrect” - Eddie Howe.

Eddie Howe has shown he can dissemble like an actor.

Well, I suppose we’ll see if a club who have admitted they have to sell to buy will slap in a big bid for a player who plays in the same position as Gordon and Barnes by Thursday. Personally I doubt it, especially after seeing their manager flatly deny it at his press conference when asked directly about that player.
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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #2102 on: January 29, 2024, 10:55:44 AM »
Ornstein isn't even the journalist that covers us for the Athletic.

No, but he does lead on their transfer stuff.

Yeah, it's like saying Fabrizio Romano isn't a Villa specialist. Ornstein is a transfers guy, and I'd believe 100 stories he puts out before I believe one thing Eddie Howe says.

Well, I suppose we’ll see if a club who have admitted they have to sell to buy will slap in a big bid for a player who plays in the same position as Gordon and Barnes by Thursday. Personally I doubt it, especially after seeing their manager flatly deny it at his press conference.

Well they'd want to replace Almiron, whose sale to a totally, honest to god, no strings no connections Saudi League club would presumably raise the money. It just wouldn't be enough money, as Ornstein himself has strongly implied.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #2103 on: January 29, 2024, 10:56:23 AM »
I really like Ramsey, but I'd probably do the deal at 50m. We've achieved this season without him and would do wonders for FFP (where the rules need changing, so that homegrown players aren't sacrificed at the altar).

It is worth remembering that Ramsey is the only player in the squad that counts as club-trained for UEFA competitions.

Offline robleflaneur

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #2104 on: January 29, 2024, 10:58:49 AM »
I'm sure there is interest, he's a good player with a high ceiling.

Perhaps his agent wants a new deal.
This is the most likely explanation.At the time of the Luiz 'rumours',Emery said that it was important to keep our best players.
We've just replaced the Donk with Tim on much lower wages and we're looking to offload Chambers and Traore.Spent about £7m on a young Serbian RB with Rogers or similar incoming.If we are that strapped for cash ,the Rogers deal would wait for the summer and Zaniolo would bè returned.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #2105 on: January 29, 2024, 11:02:36 AM »
We're not strapped for cash. We just can't spend (much of) the cash we have.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #2106 on: January 29, 2024, 11:03:24 AM »
Well, I suppose we’ll see if a club who have admitted they have to sell to buy will slap in a big bid for a player who plays in the same position as Gordon and Barnes by Thursday. Personally I doubt it, especially after seeing their manager flatly deny it at his press conference when asked directly about that player.

I mostly agree with the sentiment but Howe saying there's no interest doesn't mean The DoF or Head Scout can't have named Ramsey as someone they like or that Ramseys agent can't have name dropped a few clubs that he's spoken to. I suspect it's the latter and that they're fishing for a new contract.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #2107 on: January 29, 2024, 11:04:11 AM »
Ornstein isn't even the journalist that covers us for the Athletic.

No, but he does lead on their transfer stuff.

Yeah, it's like saying Fabrizio Romano isn't a Villa specialist. Ornstein is a transfers guy, and I'd believe 100 stories he puts out before I believe one thing Eddie Howe says.


He also said Matt Targett is injured, which is true.

Now give me your hundred transfer rumours that Ornstein got right.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #2108 on: January 29, 2024, 11:05:01 AM »
I really like Ramsey, but I'd probably do the deal at 50m. We've achieved this season without him and would do wonders for FFP (where the rules need changing, so that homegrown players aren't sacrificed at the altar).

It is worth remembering that Ramsey is the only player in the squad that counts as club-trained for UEFA competitions.

Also worth remembering his form towards the end of last season which showed signs of the player he could become. The Newcastle and Brighton home games come to mind. On the basis of those performances, his trajectory could be on par with a £100m player.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #2109 on: January 29, 2024, 11:07:22 AM »
Ornstein isn't even the journalist that covers us for the Athletic.

No, but he does lead on their transfer stuff.

Yeah, it's like saying Fabrizio Romano isn't a Villa specialist. Ornstein is a transfers guy, and I'd believe 100 stories he puts out before I believe one thing Eddie Howe says.


He also said Matt Targett is injured, which is true.

Now give me your hundred transfer rumours that Ornstein got right.


Tbf, he's only said that Newcastle made an enquiry. Presumably we laughed, told them we'd see them tomorrow night and put the phone down on them.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #2110 on: January 29, 2024, 11:09:38 AM »
Ornstein isn't even the journalist that covers us for the Athletic.

No, but he does lead on their transfer stuff.

Yeah, it's like saying Fabrizio Romano isn't a Villa specialist. Ornstein is a transfers guy, and I'd believe 100 stories he puts out before I believe one thing Eddie Howe says.


He also said Matt Targett is injured, which is true.

Now give me your hundred transfer rumours that Ornstein got right.

Don't be literalist, my man.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #2111 on: January 29, 2024, 11:10:17 AM »
Ornstein isn't even the journalist that covers us for the Athletic.

No, but he does lead on their transfer stuff.

Yeah, it's like saying Fabrizio Romano isn't a Villa specialist. Ornstein is a transfers guy, and I'd believe 100 stories he puts out before I believe one thing Eddie Howe says.


He also said Matt Targett is injured, which is true.

Now give me your hundred transfer rumours that Ornstein got right.

You'd be surprised Perce.  Along with Fabrizio he's probably the most reliable journalist there is on PL transfers.  But I agree, for the reasons you mention Ramsey to Newcastle seems incredibly unlikely.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #2112 on: January 29, 2024, 11:13:23 AM »
Ornstein isn't even the journalist that covers us for the Athletic.

No, but he does lead on their transfer stuff.

Yeah, it's like saying Fabrizio Romano isn't a Villa specialist. Ornstein is a transfers guy, and I'd believe 100 stories he puts out before I believe one thing Eddie Howe says.


He also said Matt Targett is injured, which is true.

Now give me your hundred transfer rumours that Ornstein got right.


Tbf, he's only said that Newcastle made an enquiry. Presumably we laughed, told them we'd see them tomorrow night and put the phone down on them.


https://x.com/skysportspl/status/1751923978883493924?s=46&t=GdM6cpVxe5IloByNCRheWA

Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #2113 on: January 29, 2024, 11:19:13 AM »
Ornstein isn't even the journalist that covers us for the Athletic.

No, but he does lead on their transfer stuff.

Yeah, it's like saying Fabrizio Romano isn't a Villa specialist. Ornstein is a transfers guy, and I'd believe 100 stories he puts out before I believe one thing Eddie Howe says.


He also said Matt Targett is injured, which is true.

Now give me your hundred transfer rumours that Ornstein got right.

You'd be surprised Perce.  Along with Fabrizio he's probably the most reliable journalist there is on PL transfers.  But I agree, for the reasons you mention Ramsey to Newcastle seems incredibly unlikely.

I know, I agree he’s one of the more credible ones. I’m just not convinced he outnumbers Howe by a hundred to one on true statements, considering Howe does stuff like team news on his press conferences 50 times a season. I think he’d have a terrible reputation as a bullshitter if all the injuries he goes on about were fit again the next day.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #2114 on: January 29, 2024, 11:20:28 AM »
Ornstein isn't even the journalist that covers us for the Athletic.

No, but he does lead on their transfer stuff.

Yeah, it's like saying Fabrizio Romano isn't a Villa specialist. Ornstein is a transfers guy, and I'd believe 100 stories he puts out before I believe one thing Eddie Howe says.


He also said Matt Targett is injured, which is true.

Now give me your hundred transfer rumours that Ornstein got right.


Tbf, he's only said that Newcastle made an enquiry. Presumably we laughed, told them we'd see them tomorrow night and put the phone down on them.


https://x.com/skysportspl/status/1751923978883493924?s=46&t=GdM6cpVxe5IloByNCRheWA

I've seen five year olds lie more convincingly.

 


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