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Offline Olneythelonely

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Re: Tyrone Mings
« Reply #8175 on: March 31, 2025, 10:38:55 AM »
Because there was no choice but to play him. Which Mings himself said.

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Re: Tyrone Mings
« Reply #8176 on: March 31, 2025, 10:41:28 AM »
I thought they both did everything required. It might have been a game for Pau, given how much time Mings had on the ball and the lack of a threat from Preston.

As we've seen though, if there's one thing that Emery loves it's to ease players back from injury very gently. And I imagine Keane and that big lump they brought on in the second half would have loved to kick Pau around a bit.
Mings wasn't eased in at all. He even said the other day he was playing games whilst circa 80% fit.
Now he's reaching full fitness we are seeing the clear improvement in our defence and the performance of others around him.

Yes, because he returned to fitness when we were putting together a hodge-podge defence with one or two of Kamara, Digne and Bogarde at centre-back. If that were the case now, Pau would be rushed back in a similar way.

But that's not necessary in a way that it was six weeks ago.
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Re: Tyrone Mings
« Reply #8177 on: March 31, 2025, 10:59:48 AM »
I was one of the doubters. Big fan of all Mings has done for us but that day v Chelsea I thought Emery took him off for his own good. He had struggled for weeks before then but that was the nadir. Konsa was also appalling that day after a really poor season. That was only five weeks ago, there was no evidence of any return of their very successful partnership. Mings sat out the debacle at Palace afterwards, was strange that he didn't even come on with poor Bogarde being roasted alive on left of an awful 3.

But maybe this is the genius of Emery. Somewhat surprisingly brought Mings back in for the game v Brugge. Mings was outstanding that night and hasn't looked back since. I know it was only Preston but both Konsa and himself looked in top form. Clean sheet ahead of Olsen v Brentford too on a day we struggled elsewhere on the pitch.

Brighton, Forest, PSG, Palace - season and maybe career defining games coming up in the next month.

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Re: Tyrone Mings
« Reply #8178 on: March 31, 2025, 11:32:16 AM »
Great to have Martinez, Konsa, Mings and Kamara back at the same time.

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Re: Tyrone Mings
« Reply #8179 on: March 31, 2025, 11:48:20 AM »
I was one of the doubters. Big fan of all Mings has done for us but that day v Chelsea I thought Emery took him off for his own good. He had struggled for weeks before then but that was the nadir. Konsa was also appalling that day after a really poor season. That was only five weeks ago, there was no evidence of any return of their very successful partnership. Mings sat out the debacle at Palace afterwards, was strange that he didn't even come on with poor Bogarde being roasted alive on left of an awful 3.

But maybe this is the genius of Emery. Somewhat surprisingly brought Mings back in for the game v Brugge. Mings was outstanding that night and hasn't looked back since. I know it was only Preston but both Konsa and himself looked in top form. Clean sheet ahead of Olsen v Brentford too on a day we struggled elsewhere on the pitch.

Brighton, Forest, PSG, Palace - season and maybe career defining games coming up in the next month.

His physicality is his trump card over the other centre halves.
I reckon having him, Onana, and even Rashford now in the side will help us significantly in the games against Forest, Newcastle and Palace where they've been able to push us around a bit before.

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Re: Tyrone Mings
« Reply #8180 on: March 31, 2025, 01:15:53 PM »
I thought they both did everything required. It might have been a game for Pau, given how much time Mings had on the ball and the lack of a threat from Preston.

As we've seen though, if there's one thing that Emery loves it's to ease players back from injury very gently. And I imagine Keane and that big lump they brought on in the second half would have loved to kick Pau around a bit.
Mings wasn't eased in at all. He even said the other day he was playing games whilst circa 80% fit.
Now he's reaching full fitness we are seeing the clear improvement in our defence and the performance of others around him.

Yes, because he returned to fitness when we were putting together a hodge-podge defence with one or two of Kamara, Digne and Bogarde at centre-back. If that were the case now, Pau would be rushed back in a similar way.

But that's not necessary in a way that it was six weeks ago.

Yup it’s almost like it’s a bit futile to have an agenda against one player and then try to fit every argument you make around that.

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Re: Tyrone Mings
« Reply #8181 on: March 31, 2025, 01:28:09 PM »
As good as Mings is I would still rest him v Brighton and bring him back v Forest . Asking him to play 3 games a week is too much at this stage . Disasi or Torres can rotate in.

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Re: Tyrone Mings
« Reply #8182 on: March 31, 2025, 06:21:48 PM »
Tyrone Mings: “You always have to go where you’re wanted & I’ve never been made to feel anything other than wanted at this club. I love the club. It’s pretty much everything you’d want in a football club. So, hopefully (contract extension).”
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Re: Tyrone Mings
« Reply #8183 on: March 31, 2025, 06:30:01 PM »
It has to be an extension for him. From the train station in a Villa kit it was meant to be that he ends his career here. Championship to Champions League and holding aloft the FA Cup in May puts him up there with some of the great Villa servants.

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Re: Tyrone Mings
« Reply #8184 on: March 31, 2025, 08:11:31 PM »
Massive few weeks ahead. For all of them really.

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Re: Tyrone Mings
« Reply #8185 on: April 01, 2025, 10:55:09 AM »
That's 4 clean sheets in our last 5 games .
As many as we kept in the previous 29 games .
Not bothered by this or previous stat. Selective stats serve no meaningful purpose.

The last 15 games they played together, before Mings injury, all PL games, brought 7 clean sheets and 8 goals conceded in total, never more than 1 in any game. Saying this serves no meaningful purpose is a bit like saying Watkins scoring 27 goals last season doesn’t mean he had a good season.

The arguments against are becoming strained now. Mings transforms our defence and has since the day he signed. It's so obvious too. Really baffles me.

Who wants to play at the Parc des Princes without him? The acid test this season defensively.

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Re: Tyrone Mings
« Reply #8186 on: April 01, 2025, 11:16:16 AM »
Indeed.

That's 4 clean sheets in our last 5 games .
As many as we kept in the previous 29 games .
Not bothered by this or previous stat. Selective stats serve no meaningful purpose.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

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Re: Tyrone Mings
« Reply #8187 on: April 01, 2025, 11:38:37 AM »
That's 4 clean sheets in our last 5 games .
As many as we kept in the previous 29 games .
Not bothered by this or previous stat. Selective stats serve no meaningful purpose.

The last 15 games they played together, before Mings injury, all PL games, brought 7 clean sheets and 8 goals conceded in total, never more than 1 in any game. Saying this serves no meaningful purpose is a bit like saying Watkins scoring 27 goals last season doesn’t mean he had a good season.

The arguments against are becoming strained now. Mings transforms our defence and has since the day he signed. It's so obvious too. Really baffles me.

Who wants to play at the Parc des Princes without him? The acid test this season defensively.
Agreed…The organiser, the voice, the one who attacks the ball defending all set pieces…worth his place on those 3 attributes alone.

Think sometimes we get obsessed with what a player can’t do so well over the value of what they can do.  There is not a perfect player out there and never has been

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Re: Tyrone Mings
« Reply #8188 on: April 01, 2025, 02:50:34 PM »
I think against Brighton & definately Forest i would have Mings as he is solid. Against PSG i would want Torres as our success will be passing through their press and he is so much better under pressure that Ty.

Horses for courses

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Re: Tyrone Mings
« Reply #8189 on: April 01, 2025, 03:14:37 PM »
Champions League quarter-final, first leg:

PSG 4 (Ramos 3, Dembele) - Villa 1 (Watkins...nice assist by Pau though)

 


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