Quote from: Hillbilly on October 19, 2022, 01:09:04 PMQuote from: Risso on October 18, 2022, 03:12:03 PMQuote from: Footy-Vill on October 18, 2022, 08:50:12 AMHorse has bolted. Mings will only ever improve once Gerrard leaves. Mings is only 5 months off his 30th birthday. What you see is what you get with him, and he's unlikely to get much better.Tony Adams was 30 and Steve Bould 33 when Wenger rocked up at Arsenal. Both were figures of fun before and thought to be past it. Both were held in high regard as players by the time they quit.Tony Adams who had captained England to the Euro 96 semi finals a few months before Wenger arrived? That Tony Adams?
Quote from: Risso on October 18, 2022, 03:12:03 PMQuote from: Footy-Vill on October 18, 2022, 08:50:12 AMHorse has bolted. Mings will only ever improve once Gerrard leaves. Mings is only 5 months off his 30th birthday. What you see is what you get with him, and he's unlikely to get much better.Tony Adams was 30 and Steve Bould 33 when Wenger rocked up at Arsenal. Both were figures of fun before and thought to be past it. Both were held in high regard as players by the time they quit.
Quote from: Footy-Vill on October 18, 2022, 08:50:12 AMHorse has bolted. Mings will only ever improve once Gerrard leaves. Mings is only 5 months off his 30th birthday. What you see is what you get with him, and he's unlikely to get much better.
Horse has bolted. Mings will only ever improve once Gerrard leaves.
Quote from: gpbarr on October 19, 2022, 08:43:10 PMTyrone isn’t a top 6 PL CH. But neither is he the reason we are where we are at in the table. My old man used to say that Blues had some really good goalkeepers, but they had to be as they were the busiest player on the pitch. In other words, if he was in a top 6 side he probably wouldn't be facing so much last-ditch defending.
Tyrone isn’t a top 6 PL CH. But neither is he the reason we are where we are at in the table.
A goal and an assist in his last two games. Surely Southgate can't ignore him now?
Quote from: Simon Page on October 19, 2022, 09:06:20 PMQuote from: gpbarr on October 19, 2022, 08:43:10 PMTyrone isn’t a top 6 PL CH. But neither is he the reason we are where we are at in the table. My old man used to say that Blues had some really good goalkeepers, but they had to be as they were the busiest player on the pitch. In other words, if he was in a top 6 side he probably wouldn't be facing so much last-ditch defending.His limitations with the ball would be exposed more then too. He's absolutely fine for where we are now. 3-4 head scratching ricks a season, that's his first out of the way.
Quote from: brontebilly on October 20, 2022, 12:06:32 AMQuote from: Simon Page on October 19, 2022, 09:06:20 PMQuote from: gpbarr on October 19, 2022, 08:43:10 PMTyrone isn’t a top 6 PL CH. But neither is he the reason we are where we are at in the table. My old man used to say that Blues had some really good goalkeepers, but they had to be as they were the busiest player on the pitch. In other words, if he was in a top 6 side he probably wouldn't be facing so much last-ditch defending.His limitations with the ball would be exposed more then too. He's absolutely fine for where we are now. 3-4 head scratching ricks a season, that's his first out of the way.Second in two games, that own goal was appalling. Again his right foot is only for standing on..did stop a certain goal but didn't seem to fancy fronting up to Mitrovic all night.
When you pick a battle with the leader of the dressing room it means someone has to lose. Mings has his faults, but Gerrard's man-management has been disastrous.
Had Sanchez not been injured I have no doubt that Mings would've been gone by now. He was Smith's man, popular with all and sundry and evidently more popular than Gerrard. The manager had to quickly change tack once Carlos was ruled out, but I think he didn't "fancy him" in football parlance. Nothing wrong with that, you stand and fall by those decisions but the way he went about it made me think that he didn't want that responsibility so decided to try and force the player into making the decision to leave.