Tyrone Mings

[Malandro]

Because Lukaku is a very good player then it’s ok for Mings not to jump and challenge him  for a ball in the air?
Or is Lukaku that good that he somehow mesmerised Mings into giving him a free header?
I am  Beginning to feel sorry for Tyrone, the poor lamb.

Exactly, it was a big mistake by Mings. Not some extraordinary trickery, by a wizard.
Marlon Harewood would’ve done the same.

[JUAN PABLO]

He will be  embarrassed about the second goal. Very poor by him . Cash and Mings cost us a point last night.

[Abbeyfealeavfc]

Sometimes credit goes to the opposition where chelski's 2nd goal was concerned. The cross was brilliant and always favoured  the onrushing forward rather than our stationary defence.
If the Andy Gray of old or Carew or Benteke had scored that goal, as fans we would have been raving about it. Maybe the real issue  was not preventing the cross in the first place.
Later Tyrone's positioning after Martinez had a rush of blood definitely put mount off when in a goalscoring position.

[Bad English]

I often wonder how advanced Premier League player psychology is applied at Bodymoor. For example, when rewatching the Lukaku goal in the video room with Ming's, do the coaching staff draw lines and circles on the screen and say 'Unlucky Ty! We'll get the groundsmen to have a look at the lie of the turf where your studs got welded to the artificial weave' or does Gerrard pile in screaming 'What in Our Lady of Fuck was that you useless twat? This is going on loop in Visitor Reception'?

[olaftab]

The bit where Tyrone takes a casual glance towards Lukaku as he heads the ball in is superb GIF material.

[Clampy]

Sometimes credit goes to the opposition where chelski's 2nd goal was concerned. The cross was brilliant and always favoured  the onrushing forward rather than our stationary defence.
If the Andy Gray of old or Carew or Benteke had scored that goal, as fans we would have been raving about it. Maybe the real issue  was not preventing the cross in the first place.
Later Tyrone's positioning after Martinez had a rush of blood definitely put mount off when in a goalscoring position.

I said exactly this in a whatts app group last night. Sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture. Instead you get angry fans coming out with silly  'poor lamb he didnt jump' posts.

[Risso]

Sometimes credit goes to the opposition where chelski's 2nd goal was concerned. The cross was brilliant and always favoured  the onrushing forward rather than our stationary defence.
If the Andy Gray of old or Carew or Benteke had scored that goal, as fans we would have been raving about it. Maybe the real issue  was not preventing the cross in the first place.
Later Tyrone's positioning after Martinez had a rush of blood definitely put mount off when in a goalscoring position.

I said exactly this in a whatts app group last night. Sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture. Instead you get angry fans coming out with silly  'poor lamb he didnt jump' posts.

It was a great header, but Mings doesn't dp anything to try to stop Lukaku at all. I'm not sure what the bigger picture is there to be honest. If he at least jumps with Lukaku, the ball might have gone in anyway of course, but in doing nothing he effectively makes it a free header. Still, I think Mings has been mostly decent this season. The whole defence had a few rickets against Chelsea.

[Drummond]

Sometimes credit goes to the opposition where chelski's 2nd goal was concerned. The cross was brilliant and always favoured  the onrushing forward rather than our stationary defence.
If the Andy Gray of old or Carew or Benteke had scored that goal, as fans we would have been raving about it. Maybe the real issue  was not preventing the cross in the first place.
Later Tyrone's positioning after Martinez had a rush of blood definitely put mount off when in a goalscoring position.

I said exactly this in a whatts app group last night. Sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture. Instead you get angry fans coming out with silly  'poor lamb he didnt jump' posts.

It was a great header, but Mings doesn't dp anything to try to stop Lukaku at all. I'm not sure what the bigger picture is there to be honest. If he at least jumps with Lukaku, the ball might have gone in anyway of course, but in doing nothing he effectively makes it a free header. Still, I think Mings has been mostly decent this season. The whole defence had a few rickets against Chelsea.

Yep, I agree.

I wonder whether he was just trying (and failing) to lever him off the ball, feeling like he wouldn't be able to win in the air.

However, I always think its an error not to try and at least challenge.

[eamonn]

Drummond, I think that's exactly what he was trying to. A lazy challenge, unlikely to come-off against the biggest brick-shithouse in the league.

[charlatan]

Sometimes credit goes to the opposition where chelski's 2nd goal was concerned. The cross was brilliant and always favoured  the onrushing forward rather than our stationary defence.
If the Andy Gray of old or Carew or Benteke had scored that goal, as fans we would have been raving about it. Maybe the real issue  was not preventing the cross in the first place.
Later Tyrone's positioning after Martinez had a rush of blood definitely put mount off when in a goalscoring position.

I said exactly this in a whatts app group last night. Sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture. Instead you get angry fans coming out with silly  'poor lamb he didnt jump' posts.

It was a great header, but Mings doesn't dp anything to try to stop Lukaku at all. I'm not sure what the bigger picture is there to be honest. If he at least jumps with Lukaku, the ball might have gone in anyway of course, but in doing nothing he effectively makes it a free header. Still, I think Mings has been mostly decent this season. The whole defence had a few rickets against Chelsea.

Haven't looked at it again, but my impression was that Mings opted for using his body to knock Lukaku off balance and away from the ball rather than competing for the ball himself, but either Lukaku wasn't exactly where Mings thought he was or Lukaku was much stronger, so Mings failed.

[Risso]

Whatever his thinking, it was a shite bit of play. The reason you have 6'4" central defenders is to try to win headers against tall strikers. That generally means jumping in the air to attack balls coming in.

[charlatan]

Agreed. Bad split second decision.

[olaftab]

It was a great header, but Mings doesn't dp anything to try to stop Lukaku at all. I'm not sure what the bigger picture is there to be honest. If he at least jumps with Lukaku, the ball might have gone in anyway of course, but in doing nothing he effectively makes it a free header. Still, I think Mings has been mostly decent this season. The whole defence had a few rickets against Chelsea.

I think Mings was looking at the bigger picture instead of looking after Lukaku. A big non match fit cumbersome forward coming back after a long layoff just happened to be sharper than him.

[Steve67]

Lukaku was being marked by mings and Mings should have put in a manly challenge.  It really is that simple.  It wasn't a worldy of a cross or Lukaku lost his marker, it was simply a case of he wanted it more and Mings didn't do enough to stop him.  Mings is brilliant and I admire him as Villa skipper, as a defender and as a man, but it was poor defending and cost us a goal on this occasion.  Hopefully, he learns from it.

[Clark W Griswold]

Mings is a good player but not an outstanding one, when he comes up against top class players there’s a fair chance he’s going to get caught out. Same could be said for most of the squad so I’m not sure why anyone is surprised. That’s where we are, I’m less pissed off with a top player getting the better of him than if he fucks up in a game that we should win and we drop points.