Tyrone Mings

[Zouch Villa]

Erm, anyway, well done Tyrone.

Racism continues to exist in many forms in this country, so to say these protests are irrelevant is just belittling the injustices racial minorities experience in all walks of life.

Interestingly, the Villa represented racial diversity to me long before I even understood what it meant, but it doesn’t mean we should allow ourselves to become complacent.

[Ad@m]

If someone can advise this forum, based on evidence, how this murder was racist, I'm all ears.

Still not the fucking point!!!!!

[aev]

Erm, anyway, well done Tyrone.

Racism continues to exist in many forms in this country, so to say these protests are irrelevant is just belittling the injustices racial minorities experience in all walks of life.

Interestingly, the Villa represented racial diversity to me long before I even understood what it meant, but it doesn’t mean we should allow ourselves to become complacent.

Gary Younge put something on twitter today about the importance, significance and power of protest for black people in America. Worth digging out.

[Sexual Ealing]

If someone can advise this forum, based on evidence, how this murder was racist, I'm all ears.

Based on evidence?

The racist police in the US don't value the lives of black people, just like you don't value the lives of black people. The fact that you tried to tried to excuse his murder because he had taken drugs proves this. What would you think if you read an ANC forum and they explained the death of a white farmer with the 'evidence' that he wasn't innocent because he had Phil Collins CDs in his car (I would exonerate on this basis, but that's me)?

An officer of the state murdered a man in broad daylight. He may have murdered him because of his race (which he did) or he may have murdered him because he didn't like his trousers. The point is that the state, time and again murders black people in disproportionate numbers. The problem is the state.

[kieron]

If someone can advise this forum, based on evidence, how this murder was racist, I'm all ears.

Still not the fucking point!!!!!

A man murdered a man, Ad@m, so what is the point you're making?

[Rory]

If someone can advise this forum, based on evidence, how this murder was racist, I'm all ears.

Based on evidence?

The racist police in the US don't value the lives of black people, just like you don't value the lives of black people. The fact that you tried to tried to excuse his murder because he had taken drugs proves this. What would you think if you read an ANC forum and they explained the death of a white farmer with the 'evidence' that he wasn't innocent because he had Phil Collins CDs in his car (I would exonerate on this basis, but that's me)?

An officer of the state murdered a man in broad daylight. He may have murdered him because of his race (which he did) or he may have murdered him because he didn't like his trousers. The point is that the state, time and again murders black people in disproportionate numbers. The problem is the state.

Possession of a Phil Collins album is definitely grounds for violent arrest, in my book.

Reports of paying for cigarettes with a dodgy-looking note? Not so much.

[Sexual Ealing]

It's very occasionally so difficult not to opt for a 'suicide by moderator' option on this website.

[Rory]

If someone can advise this forum, based on evidence, how this murder was racist, I'm all ears.

Still not the fucking point!!!!!

A man murdered a man, Ad@m, so what is the point you're making?

Many would say it's a luxury (or rather, a privilege) to detach such things from their context.

[kieron]

If someone can advise this forum, based on evidence, how this murder was racist, I'm all ears.

Based on evidence?

The racist police in the US don't value the lives of black people, just like you don't value the lives of black people. The fact that you tried to tried to excuse his murder because he had taken drugs proves this. What would you think if you read an ANC forum and they explained the death of a white farmer with the 'evidence' that he wasn't innocent because he had Phil Collins CDs in his car (I would exonerate on this basis, but that's me)?

An officer of the state murdered a man in broad daylight. He may have murdered him because of his race (which he did) or he may have murdered him because he didn't like his trousers. The point is that the state, time and again murders black people in disproportionate numbers. The problem is the state.

I think you should probably be careful, SE. I have not said anything racist whatsoever, but merely given an opinion that George Floyd's murder hasn't been confirmed a racist act.

"just like you don't value the lives of black people" - I respectfully request that you retract that comment.

[Footy-Vill]

I find it appalling some people's views here clearly not understanding the context.
Lacking with ability to see perspective
That person who started it off saying it was a pointless protest should ask Mings as he wouldn't be impressed either with what you said.
And several others we have to endure not getting it and giving , what I can only see , a narrow minded perspective , one without sentiment one with out empathy and one without much knowledge to the history of inequality regards race.

At least here over the last few pages that's it's clearly only a few ill informed minority who are being so dismissive of something a Villa player has the principles to stand up for and protest despite any risk .

It's worse this minority on here are  more interested to try and defend their position rather than seek to learn or look at things from another point of view.

To those minority Mings may read this and you're embrassing yourselves.

It's no surprise how some are the same who tried to bully me off the site so at least they are consistent with their poor way of looking out for other people and respecting. I reported them before and I'll do it again.
Some really nasty bully boy behaviour  here who only want to get their way

Really these people should be banned as it's against forum rules and it's causing a moral outrage on Mings thread.

It's insulting it really is what some people said.
And well done most of us for voicing how we don't agree with such small mindedness on this site!

Up the villa

[Ad@m]

If someone can advise this forum, based on evidence, how this murder was racist, I'm all ears.

Still not the fucking point!!!!!

A man murdered a man, Ad@m, so what is the point you're making?

You could scroll back the last couple of pages and actually read what's written.

But I'll save you the bother - predominantly white police officers routinely kill unarmed black people in America. 3 times as often as they do white people.

That's just wrong and in the context of American history is clearly racist.

We should be proud of one of our senior players making a stand against that.

I honestly can't put it clearer than that.

[Rory]

I find it appalling some people's views here clearly not understanding the context.
Lacking with ability to see perspective
That person who started it off saying it was a pointless protest should ask Mings as he wouldn't be impressed either with what you said.
And several others we have to endure not getting it and giving , what I can only see , a narrow minded perspective , one without sentiment one with out empathy and one without much knowledge to the history of inequality regards race.

At least here over the last few pages that's it's clearly only a few ill informed minority who are being so dismissive of something a Villa player has the principles to stand up for and protest despite any risk .

It's worse this minority on here are  more interested to try and defend their position rather than seek to learn or look at things from another point of view.

To those minority Mings may read this and you're embrassing yourselves.

It's no surprise how some are the same who tried to bully me off the site so at least they are consistent with their poor way of looking out for other people and respecting. I reported them before and I'll do it again.
Some really nasty bullies here who only want to get their way

Really these people should be banned as it's against forum rules and it's causing a moral outrage on Mings thread.

It's insulting it really is what some people said.
And well done most of us for voicing how we don't agree with such small mindedness on this site!

Up the villa

I didn't read all of it  but well said, Vill I An.

[Sexual Ealing]

If someone can advise this forum, based on evidence, how this murder was racist, I'm all ears.

Based on evidence?

The racist police in the US don't value the lives of black people, just like you don't value the lives of black people. The fact that you tried to tried to excuse his murder because he had taken drugs proves this. What would you think if you read an ANC forum and they explained the death of a white farmer with the 'evidence' that he wasn't innocent because he had Phil Collins CDs in his car (I would exonerate on this basis, but that's me)?

An officer of the state murdered a man in broad daylight. He may have murdered him because of his race (which he did) or he may have murdered him because he didn't like his trousers. The point is that the state, time and again murders black people in disproportionate numbers. The problem is the state.

I think you should probably be careful, SE. I have not said anything racist whatsoever, but merely given an opinion that George Floyd's murder hasn't been confirmed a racist act.

"just like you don't value the lives of black people" - I respectfully request that you retract that comment.

I respectfully request that you take your request and use it to fornicate yourself with an enormous stick.

[dave.woodhall]

If someone can advise this forum, based on evidence, how this murder was racist, I'm all ears.

Based on evidence?

The racist police in the US don't value the lives of black people, just like you don't value the lives of black people. The fact that you tried to tried to excuse his murder because he had taken drugs proves this. What would you think if you read an ANC forum and they explained the death of a white farmer with the 'evidence' that he wasn't innocent because he had Phil Collins CDs in his car (I would exonerate on this basis, but that's me)?

An officer of the state murdered a man in broad daylight. He may have murdered him because of his race (which he did) or he may have murdered him because he didn't like his trousers. The point is that the state, time and again murders black people in disproportionate numbers. The problem is the state.

I think you should probably be careful, SE. I have not said anything racist whatsoever, but merely given an opinion that George Floyd's murder hasn't been confirmed a racist act.

"just like you don't value the lives of black people" - I respectfully request that you retract that comment.

I respectfully request that you take your request and use it to fornicate yourself with an enormous stick.

Can we keep this topic civil, please?

[Sexual Ealing]

Apologies to you, and the site, Dave.