Tyrone Mings

[themossman]

Definitely. And how much is that worth?

Imagine joining that squad right now, or leaving it. So much togetherness there, that’ll be so valuable next year.

[rob_bridge]

If Cascarino said actually why he thought Mings may not match up - e.g a reallty good player can roll him on left shoulder, positional sense is questionable, him and keeper communication isn't that great, he is too slow, too tall, too fast, not athletic enough then fair enough.

Otherwise he just sounds like a fucking no nothing prick

[Diablo]

As much as I dislike Cascarino and his pathetic punditry and as blasphemous as it is to say, there is of course a chance that Tyrone may struggle to have the impact that he had with us in the Championship in the PL. If you're going to be hyper-hyper critical and look at potential problem areas there were a couple of times where his temperament was arguably questionable (where he got caught up in tussles with opposition players/off the ball/corners etc) there was the sending off at Rotherham and there were occasionally times he seemed to overplay or hang on to the ball too long at the back (which could potentially be concentration levels/or over confidence). The difference in class between world class forwards and the championship is wide and if you switch off for a minute you are likely to be punished as opposed to getting away with it in the Championship. It goes without saying I hope he's brilliant but the whole team is going to be massively tested this coming season.

[jwarry]

It also goes without saying that Terry has already had a major impact upon him and will continue to do so

[VILLA MOLE]

As much as I dislike Cascarino and his pathetic punditry and as blasphemous as it is to say, there is of course a chance that Tyrone may struggle to have the impact that he had with us in the Championship in the PL. If you're going to be hyper-hyper critical and look at potential problem areas there were a couple of times where his temperament was arguably questionable (where he got caught up in tussles with opposition players/off the ball/corners etc) there was the sending off at Rotherham and there were occasionally times he seemed to overplay or hang on to the ball too long at the back (which could potentially be concentration levels/or over confidence). The difference in class between world class forwards and the championship is wide and if you switch off for a minute you are likely to be punished as opposed to getting away with it in the Championship. It goes without saying I hope he's brilliant but the whole team is going to be massively tested this coming season.

stop having valid point please 

[OCD]

As much as I dislike Cascarino and his pathetic punditry and as blasphemous as it is to say, there is of course a chance that Tyrone may struggle to have the impact that he had with us in the Championship in the PL. If you're going to be hyper-hyper critical and look at potential problem areas there were a couple of times where his temperament was arguably questionable (where he got caught up in tussles with opposition players/off the ball/corners etc) there was the sending off at Rotherham and there were occasionally times he seemed to overplay or hang on to the ball too long at the back (which could potentially be concentration levels/or over confidence). The difference in class between world class forwards and the championship is wide and if you switch off for a minute you are likely to be punished as opposed to getting away with it in the Championship. It goes without saying I hope he's brilliant but the whole team is going to be massively tested this coming season.

A counter to that would be that it's a position where often players will mature late 20's/early 30's and while at 26, he's no kid, there's still time for him to improve and adjust to the Premier League.

[themossman]

Yeah they are all valid points but mitigated (imo) by the fact that we also need to adjust for the fact that was his first decent run at any level for a long, long time.

[Diablo]

It also goes without saying that Terry has already had a major impact upon him and will continue to do so

You're right, you'd think he'd be a massive asset to not just Tyrone but the whole defence especially when it comes to how to deal with specific types of (top class) strikers and the different challenges that they bring with Terry's wealth of experience. Has Tyrone commented on his relationship with Terry and his influence on Tyrone's game/development in any detail? I've heard DS give Terry a glowing coaching report and I know Jack has said what a great influence he has been on him since he arrived. 

[Diablo]

Yeah they are all valid points but mitigated (imo) by the fact that we also need to adjust for the fact that was his first decent run at any level for a long, long time.

Good point.

[Diablo]

Sorry messed up - double post

[Diablo]

As much as I dislike Cascarino and his pathetic punditry and as blasphemous as it is to say, there is of course a chance that Tyrone may struggle to have the impact that he had with us in the Championship in the PL. If you're going to be hyper-hyper critical and look at potential problem areas there were a couple of times where his temperament was arguably questionable (where he got caught up in tussles with opposition players/off the ball/corners etc) there was the sending off at Rotherham and there were occasionally times he seemed to overplay or hang on to the ball too long at the back (which could potentially be concentration levels/or over confidence). The difference in class between world class forwards and the championship is wide and if you switch off for a minute you are likely to be punished as opposed to getting away with it in the Championship. It goes without saying I hope he's brilliant but the whole team is going to be massively tested this coming season.

A counter to that would be that it's a position where often players will mature late 20's/early 30's and while at 26, he's no kid, there's still time for him to improve and adjust to the Premier League.

I agree, regarding his age he's been unlucky with injury and there's definitely time for him to develop as a player in his position, as you say, especially (imo) under our current coaching team.

[Diablo]

From the Mail - Reo-Coker talking about Tyrone.

Reo-Coker believes that as good a signing as Tyrone Mings is for Villa, he must prove himself and learn at Premier League level.

He stated: "He’s a good player and I played with Tyrone for a little bit at Ipswich. I think it’s a good signing but it’s a different quality level now, and he hasn’t had a proper run at the Premier League yet at Bournemouth.

"It’s a different level now and it’s a lot more about using your brain and seeing danger before it happens. It’s not as physical or physically demanding as The Championship, so I think that he will have to take his game to another level."

[ChicagoLion]

From the Mail - Reo-Coker talking about Tyrone.

Reo-Coker believes that as good a signing as Tyrone Mings is for Villa, he must prove himself and learn at Premier League level.

He stated: "He’s a good player and I played with Tyrone for a little bit at Ipswich. I think it’s a good signing but it’s a different quality level now, and he hasn’t had a proper run at the Premier League yet at Bournemouth.

"It’s a different level now and it’s a lot more about using your brain and seeing danger before it happens. It’s not as physical or physically demanding as The Championship, so I think that he will have to take his game to another level."

no shit Sherlock

[Bad English]

If I wish to be my niece's auntie, I'll need to chop my bollocks off.

[PeterWithesShin]

Showing once again he's a good 'un.

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