Quote from: footyskillz on February 05, 2019, 06:50:15 PMQuote from: dave shelley on February 05, 2019, 06:44:56 PMQuote from: footyskillz on February 05, 2019, 06:29:56 PMIt's the lack of a hop, skip or jump in trying to step away that gets me.And that this is a repeat offense If he was playing for Reading and did this then majority would be saying he should be banned.Why would all these ex players and refs be saying he should be banned . As yes it's people's interpretation of the incident , however those that play the game would know that there was a concerted effort to step out the way.Footy, let me explain it to you like this: I am an ex-referee who officiated at a relatively high standard. I have viewed this incident just the once the same as the referee on the day, and that was deliberately so as to have an objective view. As I have posted previously had I been the referee on Saturday I would have seen the incident exactly the way I imagine the match referee saw it and carried on playing. The only reason I would have stopped play would be when my attention was drawn to the fact that there was possibility a serious injury. It was unfortunate for the Reading player but Mings was blameless, I've seen and dealt with a lot worse. I'm particularly clever but one thing I do know is that I was a fairly decent referee, I have awards for it. It's really time to let it go.Yes I let it go just responding to all the stuff I read on here.No worries here.I respect your response As I say he wouldn't get a character reference in court as he is a repeat offender.But ok I hear what your interpretation and I will let go.I felt I needed to respond or bite to what I think were some quite stony-hearted responses to a man having his face smashed. But yes. No more from me on this matter.Cheers Dave Good to hear your refs view and consideration to matter based on your undoubtedly experience and that's good enough from me to accept that it could have been an accident .Thanks. Up the villa.Glad to be of help and, despite proof reading my note before posting the highlighted bit should have read, ' I'm not particularly clever'.
Quote from: dave shelley on February 05, 2019, 06:44:56 PMQuote from: footyskillz on February 05, 2019, 06:29:56 PMIt's the lack of a hop, skip or jump in trying to step away that gets me.And that this is a repeat offense If he was playing for Reading and did this then majority would be saying he should be banned.Why would all these ex players and refs be saying he should be banned . As yes it's people's interpretation of the incident , however those that play the game would know that there was a concerted effort to step out the way.Footy, let me explain it to you like this: I am an ex-referee who officiated at a relatively high standard. I have viewed this incident just the once the same as the referee on the day, and that was deliberately so as to have an objective view. As I have posted previously had I been the referee on Saturday I would have seen the incident exactly the way I imagine the match referee saw it and carried on playing. The only reason I would have stopped play would be when my attention was drawn to the fact that there was possibility a serious injury. It was unfortunate for the Reading player but Mings was blameless, I've seen and dealt with a lot worse. I'm particularly clever but one thing I do know is that I was a fairly decent referee, I have awards for it. It's really time to let it go.Yes I let it go just responding to all the stuff I read on here.No worries here.I respect your response As I say he wouldn't get a character reference in court as he is a repeat offender.But ok I hear what your interpretation and I will let go.I felt I needed to respond or bite to what I think were some quite stony-hearted responses to a man having his face smashed. But yes. No more from me on this matter.Cheers Dave Good to hear your refs view and consideration to matter based on your undoubtedly experience and that's good enough from me to accept that it could have been an accident .Thanks. Up the villa.
Quote from: footyskillz on February 05, 2019, 06:29:56 PMIt's the lack of a hop, skip or jump in trying to step away that gets me.And that this is a repeat offense If he was playing for Reading and did this then majority would be saying he should be banned.Why would all these ex players and refs be saying he should be banned . As yes it's people's interpretation of the incident , however those that play the game would know that there was a concerted effort to step out the way.Footy, let me explain it to you like this: I am an ex-referee who officiated at a relatively high standard. I have viewed this incident just the once the same as the referee on the day, and that was deliberately so as to have an objective view. As I have posted previously had I been the referee on Saturday I would have seen the incident exactly the way I imagine the match referee saw it and carried on playing. The only reason I would have stopped play would be when my attention was drawn to the fact that there was possibility a serious injury. It was unfortunate for the Reading player but Mings was blameless, I've seen and dealt with a lot worse. I'm particularly clever but one thing I do know is that I was a fairly decent referee, I have awards for it. It's really time to let it go.
It's the lack of a hop, skip or jump in trying to step away that gets me.And that this is a repeat offense If he was playing for Reading and did this then majority would be saying he should be banned.Why would all these ex players and refs be saying he should be banned . As yes it's people's interpretation of the incident , however those that play the game would know that there was a concerted effort to step out the way.
I really am about to lose my shit here. So I think I need a break.
Footy, the main problem here is that it's really hard to find footage of this played in real time, if you see it at that speed it looks like an accident. If you see the 2 frames a second super slo-mo version that's being shared on the internet then it looks much worse because it tricks you into thinking he had time to react. Oliveira fell into him and he tries to skip out of the way with his left and then, when he can't regain his balance, tries to place his right foot where he won't stand on an outstretched arm.I've played a fair bit of rugby and, like Mings, I'm a fairly awkward looking player. In my personal experience if someone falls into you like that your biggest concerns are to not land on their back, to avoid their arms and to try to not let your heels flick up (as that's where you expect their head to be going).The truth is any contact sport will sometimes have nasty accidents, Oliveira will have a bit of pain and a couple of interesting scars but he'll be playing again in a couple of weeks. I feel sorry for him, but other players have been hurt far more seriously and it's purely the grizzly looking photos that have made this an on-going story.
Quote from: footyskillz on February 05, 2019, 06:29:56 PMIt's the lack of a hop, skip or jump in trying to step away that gets me.And that this is a repeat offense If he was playing for Reading and did this then majority would be saying he should be banned.Why would all these ex players and refs be saying he should be banned . As yes it's people's interpretation of the incident , however those that play the game would know that there was a concerted effort to step out the way.It's not a repeat offence. It's not an offence at all. And I couldn't care less what a couple of attention-seeking former players trying to earn a few quid out of some manufactured outrage think.
Footy, the main problem here is that it's really hard to find footage of this played in real time, if you see it at that speed it looks like an accident. If you see the 2 frames a second super slo-mo version that's being shared on the internet then it looks much worse because it tricks you into thinking he had time to react. Oliveira fell into him and he tries to skip out of the way with his left and then, when he can't regain his balance, tries to place his right foot where he won't stand on an outstretched arm.
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