The International Cricket Thread

[PaulWinch again]

I’m pretty sure if he’s in the squad he’s not that far away. For instance Potts has dropped out, but Woakes is still in. He might not play, but I think it’s definitely in the conversation and if they have doubts over Wood it might be a choice between Ali or Woakes in place of Jimmy.

[tomd2103]

Can't believe we've got people on here seriously defending the Bairstow wicket. Absolute shithouse move and they deserve every bit of criticism they get. I reckon they've gone all in on it because they were so pissed off about Starc catch night before. They're a bunch of tossers and I would love it, love it, if we manage to stick it to them from here. ******

That might be the case, but it was sloppy from Bairstow.  You are taught as a young kid to be switched on around the crease and don't go wandering out of it.

Can't quite make out if the umpires moved in anyway before Bairstow did, for if they did then I suppose it could be argued that it was fair to assume that was the over and it would be interesting to know if they had actually been calling 'over' previous to that.

[Lsvilla]

Can't believe we've got people on here seriously defending the Bairstow wicket. Absolute shithouse move and they deserve every bit of criticism they get. I reckon they've gone all in on it because they were so pissed off about Starc catch night before. They're a bunch of tossers and I would love it, love it, if we manage to stick it to them from here. ******

That might be the case, but it was sloppy from Bairstow.  You are taught as a young kid to be switched on around the crease and don't go wandering out of it.

Can't quite make out if the umpires moved in anyway before Bairstow did, for if they did then I suppose it could be argued that it was fair to assume that was the over and it would be interesting to know if they had actually been calling 'over' previous to that.

Two things from my perspective - JB has touched his back foot down and has scraped his "mark" with a stud before going walkabout and the square leg umpire - at point- is clearly walking in head bowed and not looking - having himself assumed it's over ready to stand for the next over before the stumps are broken.

[Nev]

When Mark Halsey dummied our defence for Henry to slot home who defended it? Who slagged off our defence for not being ready? Or called us naive?

It's legal shithousing in both cases and it stinks.

Oh, and the awful comments by Strauss just rubber stamp what was written in the report last week and completely ignored the behaviour of the Members in the Long Room.

[OzVilla]

I played cricket for 15 years and only saw this happen once. My view is that although Bairstow is at fault this was as fucking sneaky an act as it's possible to get on a cricket field.

It's the cricketing equivalent of what Leeds did when they feigned to put the ball out but then played on and scored.  Its just poor form all round.

You can only imagine the level of whataboutery going on here today to justify it too.  They really are classless wankers.

[Rory]

I played cricket for 15 years and only saw this happen once. My view is that although Bairstow is at fault this was as fucking sneaky an act as it's possible to get on a cricket field.

It's the cricketing equivalent of what Leeds did when they feigned to put the ball out but then played on and scored.  Its just poor form all round.

You can only imagine the level of whataboutery going on here today to justify it too.  They really are classless wankers.

Yeah, I have to say, I thought it was pretty fucking cynical. Bairstow stayed in his ground for a couple of seconds, scratched his mark, then was clearly not looking to gain anything.

Given his personality, I don't think Bairstow will have made many friends amongst opposition players over the years. I suspect if it was Stokes they got out that way, Australia would've given serious thought to withdrawing the appeal.

Bairstow should've been more aware, but Australia were sneaky. Both can be true.

I just hope this is the moment that Bazball gets an edge. Sporting declarations, attacking batting and entertainment are great, but I'd rather we had those things while grinding Australia into the dirt, thank you.

We need to win two of the remaining three. A 0-3, 0-4, 1-4 or 0-5 should result in some changes, I'm afraid. We shouldn't be losing like that at home.

[nigel]

I played cricket for 15 years and only saw this happen once. My view is that although Bairstow is at fault this was as fucking sneaky an act as it's possible to get on a cricket field.

It's the cricketing equivalent of what Leeds did when they feigned to put the ball out but then played on and scored.  Its just poor form all round.

You can only imagine the level of whataboutery going on here today to justify it too.  They really are classless wankers.

I remember Tony Greig doing a similar thing vrs West Indies in the 70’s.
If I remember correctly he was crucified for it.

[Villa Lew]

Another thing about the incident, it's making all the headlines in the papers and what's everyone's talking about on the radio, when it should be all about Stokes's knock, one of the greatest Test innings I've ever seen, how he didn't get MOTM, I'll never know.

[Monty]

Another thing about the incident, it's making all the headlines in the papers and what's everyone's talking about on the radio, when it should be all about Stokes's knock, one of the greatest Test innings I've ever seen, how he didn't get MOTM, I'll never know.

Yeah there's a heavy 'man of the match is on the winning side' bias, but that's erroneous IMO. By miles the great individual performance of the match was Stokes's, and if Tongue gets a quick 30 or Bairstow gets to 50 before doing something daft and we win then he would have got MOTM. Weird.

[LeeB]

Got to try and use the injustice to fire us up at Headingley, the crowd will play it's part no doubt. Can't imagine it will be much fun for them fielding in front of the Western Terrace.

[LeeB]

And the truly magnificent thing about Stokes innings again was how he changed gear according to the match conditions. By christ if the others could just figure that out we'd probably be 2 up by now.

[PaulWinch again]

And the truly magnificent thing about Stokes innings again was how he changed gear according to the match conditions. By christ if the others could just figure that out we'd probably be 2 up by now.

Yes Stokes showed intelligence in his innings, we need some others to do that.

[Risso]

And the truly magnificent thing about Stokes innings again was how he changed gear according to the match conditions. By christ if the others could just figure that out we'd probably be 2 up by now.

Yes Stokes showed intelligence in his innings, we need some others to do that.

He did it at Edgbaston as well. I'm all for the attacking ethos but it needs a much higher dose of intelligence injected into it. England were in good positions in both tests and fucked them both up. It would be similar to Villa being 2-1 up against Brighton on the final day and then changing to a 3-2-5 formation and sending Emi up for corners. Suicidal.

[paul_e]

And the truly magnificent thing about Stokes innings again was how he changed gear according to the match conditions. By christ if the others could just figure that out we'd probably be 2 up by now.

Yes Stokes showed intelligence in his innings, we need some others to do that.

He did it at Edgbaston as well. I'm all for the attacking ethos but it needs a much higher dose of intelligence injected into it. England were in good positions in both tests and fucked them both up. It would be similar to Villa being 2-1 up against Brighton on the final day and then changing to a 3-2-5 formation and sending Emi up for corners. Suicidal.

My final post on this (hopefully) but I think it's wrong that until 18months ago the wickets we've lost would've been bad shots, can we not get back to that rather than slagging off the style of play.

Also We conceded 416 having won the toss and deciding to bowl, that's where this test was really lost them going from 96/2 to 316/4 meant they were favourites and we needed to do something special to catch them. We nearly managed it in both innings but the long tail and some poor shot selection made things difficult and then a bit of wanky bullshit from them ended the match. Stokes and Duckett were our 2 big scorers in the test and both of them played perfectly in line with how England have played under McCullum and Stokes, without their performances we'd have been much further behind in this one.

[Jon Crofts]

A short story in 3 names.