The International Cricket Thread

[PaulWinch again]

Also Broad’s rage reignited his ability to bat. I hope he harnesses that moving forward.

[PaulWinch again]

Also final thing - this controversy has kind of distracted from the fact that with the exception of one useful batting knock Bairstow has been pretty dreadful.

[taylorsworkrate]

It’s going to be unbelievably hard to turn around now, but they’ve to take it one game at a time. The one thing the first two games have shown is that they absolutely have enough to beat Australia, but they’ve been to casual/weak in the absolute key moments. In the next game they got to spot those moments and also ruthlessly win them. I really hope the bitterness towards the end of the game fuels them now.

I'm not so sure Paul. Lets not forget that we have won both tosses, and this one in particular was a crucial one to win given the conditions on day 1. In perfect conditions for them, our seam bowlers were ineffective and unthreatening. I don't think Australia have been at their best and can only see them improving going forward.

[PaulWinch again]

Yeah maybe, but I think those conditions were a bit of a mirage. It did move around a lot, but the pitch kind of nullified it. Also IF we are smart and learn them not having Lyon could be massive.

The seam attack does need freshening up though.

[Meanwood Villa]

Can't believe we've got people on here seriously defending the Bairstow wicket. Absolute shithouse move and they deserve every bit of criticism they get. I reckon they've gone all in on it because they were so pissed off about Starc catch night before. They're a bunch of tossers and I would love it, love it, if we manage to stick it to them from here. ******

[Risso]

Isn't there a better opener somewhere than Crawley?

[taylorsworkrate]

Can't believe we've got people on here seriously defending the Bairstow wicket. Absolute shithouse move and they deserve every bit of criticism they get. I reckon they've gone all in on it because they were so pissed off about Starc catch night before. They're a bunch of tossers and I would love it, love it, if we manage to stick it to them from here. ******

I think you would also have people on here, if the situation were reversed and it was Bairstow doing it to Carey, that would be praising Bairstow for previously noticing Carey moving out of his crease when the ball isnt dead and taking advantage of it. I think their team are a bunch of pricks too but in this instance I think that only Bairstow deserves criticism for how moronic he was.

[Meanwood Villa]

Can't believe we've got people on here seriously defending the Bairstow wicket. Absolute shithouse move and they deserve every bit of criticism they get. I reckon they've gone all in on it because they were so pissed off about Starc catch night before. They're a bunch of tossers and I would love it, love it, if we manage to stick it to them from here. ******

I think you would also have people on here, if the situation were reversed and it was Bairstow doing it to Carey, that would be praising Bairstow for previously noticing Carey moving out of his crease when the ball isnt dead and taking advantage of it. I think their team are a bunch of pricks too but in this instance I think that only Bairstow deserves criticism for how moronic he was.

I know what you mean but we don't have to defend ourselves in that hypothetical situation because we didn't fucking do it. Honestly I have never seen anything like it, it's such a brazen abuse of the norms of the game but the Aussie gaslighting seems to be working. It's worse than a Mankad because the people getting done by that were trying to steal an advantage whereas Bairstow 100% wasn't.

[Villan For Life]

The thing that I don’t get is that Bairstow actually scraped his studs across his crease after the ball had gone past him which surely is the equivalent of grounding your bat?

I remember when Ian Bell was run out in a test against India on the last ball before lunch, it was assumed that one of his shots had crossed the boundary therefore making the ball dead. It didn’t and Bell walked off for lunch and India ran him out. M S Dhoni agreed to withdraw the appeal and Bell carried on batting. That is the spirit of cricket.

[tomd2103]

Surely Pope won’t play at Headingley. Move Bairstow up to 3, play Foakes at 8, Ali at 7 (if they’re intent on keeping him) or vice versa and your three quicks. As to who that is, personally I’d pick Woakes, Tounge/Wood (if fit) and Broad.

It will be flat at Headingley, I think they said Leach bowled 20 of overs first inning last Ashes.

The comments about Wood ‘s fitness were rather worrying I thought.

If Pope is out, I would consider moving Brook to 3 rather than Bairstow.  Bring Foakes in at 7 and either move Stokes or Bairstow to 5. 

Don’t think Anderson will play, but think Wood will come in.  Think Tongue has probably done enough to stay in, so it will Broad or Robinson fir the final spot if we go with the three seamers.

[Villan For Life]

Surely Pope won’t play at Headingley. Move Bairstow up to 3, play Foakes at 8, Ali at 7 (if they’re intent on keeping him) or vice versa and your three quicks. As to who that is, personally I’d pick Woakes, Tounge/Wood (if fit) and Broad.

It will be flat at Headingley, I think they said Leach bowled 20 of overs first inning last Ashes.

The comments about Wood ‘s fitness were rather worrying I thought.

If Pope is out, I would consider moving Brook to 3 rather than Bairstow.  Bring Foakes in at 7 and either move Stokes or Bairstow to 5. 

Don’t think Anderson will play, but think Wood will come in.  Think Tongue has probably done enough to stay in, so it will Broad or Robinson fir the final spot if we go with the three seamers.

I think there are concerns about Wood’s fitness so I can see the attack being unchanged

[PaulWinch again]

Surely Pope won’t play at Headingley. Move Bairstow up to 3, play Foakes at 8, Ali at 7 (if they’re intent on keeping him) or vice versa and your three quicks. As to who that is, personally I’d pick Woakes, Tounge/Wood (if fit) and Broad.

It will be flat at Headingley, I think they said Leach bowled 20 of overs first inning last Ashes.

The comments about Wood ‘s fitness were rather worrying I thought.

If Pope is out, I would consider moving Brook to 3 rather than Bairstow.  Bring Foakes in at 7 and either move Stokes or Bairstow to 5. 

Don’t think Anderson will play, but think Wood will come in.  Think Tongue has probably done enough to stay in, so it will Broad or Robinson fir the final spot if we go with the three seamers.

I think there are concerns about Wood’s fitness so I can see the attack being unchanged

Never thought I’d say this but I think it’d be a mistake to keep Jimmy in.

[taylorsworkrate]

You'd have thought if he was going to be effective in this series then the condtions he had on the 1st day at Lords were absolutely ideal for him. His body language was poor at times too, almost as if he knows the end is near.

I couldn't justify playing him at Headingly and I hate to say that because he has been a truly brilliant performer for such a long time.

I'd go with Woakes, Broad, Tongue and Wood as the pace attack. Its whether we want to sneak Moeen in for Crawley and rejig the batting line up is the question id struggle with personally.

[Villan For Life]

I think Woakes is a long way from selection, he’s been out of the test side for a very long time. Could he cope with the rigours of test cricket now?

[paul_e]

I think Woakes is a long way from selection, he’s been out of the test side for a very long time. Could he cope with the rigours of test cricket now?

Then they need to stop calling him up to carry drinks. They've got him in a limbo where he barely plays for Warwickshire or England, which doesn't help anyone.