Quote from: paul_e on September 20, 2021, 12:40:42 PMfor me the key to beating Man U is to get their defence turned and put pressure on them int the centre of the park. For that reason it's the perfect game to try MartinezCash Konsa Mings Targett Luiz Nakamba Ramsey Ings Watkins BaileySo 433 but with Ings slightly deeper between the defence and midfield and Watkins and Bailey starting wider (and swapping sides) to either pull the full backs in or centre backs out. The 3 in midfield for us means we have support for our full backs when they attack (because the 3 behind Ronaldo tend to target the same areas as I mentioned above).Id go with that, apart from mcginn for nakamba if he’s fit enough to play. As a complete aside, as we were hammering Everton on Saturday, it was exactly 3 years ago that we were beating Rotherham 2-0, the team that night;NylandElmoChesterJedinakHuttonEl GhaziMcginnHourihaneGrealishBolasieAbraham. That defence! Weve come a long way in those 3 years!
for me the key to beating Man U is to get their defence turned and put pressure on them int the centre of the park. For that reason it's the perfect game to try MartinezCash Konsa Mings Targett Luiz Nakamba Ramsey Ings Watkins BaileySo 433 but with Ings slightly deeper between the defence and midfield and Watkins and Bailey starting wider (and swapping sides) to either pull the full backs in or centre backs out. The 3 in midfield for us means we have support for our full backs when they attack (because the 3 behind Ronaldo tend to target the same areas as I mentioned above).
He wasn't at all. Both outside centre halves were tasked with stepping out of defence second half and both wing backs were 15 yards higher up the pitch.Mings did not occupy a full back spot. The general defensive did not change when Bailey came on.
Quote from: ozzjim on September 20, 2021, 07:18:40 PMMings was as left back as left back gets for a good 15 minutes. Bailey was playing left wing. It may not have been the intention, but it was the formation on the pitch.Exactly.
Mings was as left back as left back gets for a good 15 minutes. Bailey was playing left wing. It may not have been the intention, but it was the formation on the pitch.
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on September 20, 2021, 09:45:34 PMQuote from: ozzjim on September 20, 2021, 07:18:40 PMMings was as left back as left back gets for a good 15 minutes. Bailey was playing left wing. It may not have been the intention, but it was the formation on the pitch.Exactly.So if Mings went to left back and Konsa went to right back, who were the two centre-halves in this imaginary back four?
Konsa didn't though. Cash just stayed higher and left space in behind, and Ings popped up on the right a lot more. Mings very obviously came across to the left, and the commentary on the box when I watched it back made a number of comments about him playing there. It may not have been the intention but it was definitely the result. Bailey was as close to a left wing back as I am being skinny.
At no ******* point on ******** Saturday did we ******* have a ******* back ******* four.
We can all be unhappy / happy because our preferred formations weren't / were used. Great.
When Bailey was on and Everton had the ball it looked more like a back 4 as Cash retreated more than Bailey and Mings stayed quite wide. I'm surprised it's such a controversial issue tbh.