I agree with Sexual Ealing. 4-2-3-1 is the devil's work.
Quote from: Risso on September 19, 2021, 07:17:49 PMI agree with Sexual Ealing. 4-2-3-1 is the devil's work.Almost indistinguishable from 433 if you have the right players in midfield and as the number 10
We went to 4-3-3 for 20 minutes and scored 3
We went to 4-3-3 for 20 minutes and scored 3, because we had natural width further up the field. The 3 at the back looks shaky as hell to me, Mings and Konsa look like they are always in 2 minds where to push up and press and where to drop in.For me, 4-1-2-2-1 is the ideal. I think for our players it's the best option. After that, I would sooner play the 3-5-2 than the 4-3-3 that has 2 holding mids as that has proved not to work a number of times, and whenever we try anyone at 10 they look useless.Smith deserves credit for changing it up and winning the game. I was not sure he would or could, and up to the Cash goal we looked a bit of a shambles, the Grey chance came from us being allnover the place, but the changes worked and we won. Fingers crossed his in game management continues on those lines.
Agree 100% Oz. 4-5-1 next weekend against the Plastics would be my preference, wing backs are all well and good when you have natural wing backs; we don't, we have two quality full backs. We also have a three great wide men.
Quote from: ozzjim on September 19, 2021, 11:58:55 PMWe went to 4-3-3 for 20 minutes and scored 3, because we had natural width further up the field. The 3 at the back looks shaky as hell to me, Mings and Konsa look like they are always in 2 minds where to push up and press and where to drop in.For me, 4-1-2-2-1 is the ideal. I think for our players it's the best option. After that, I would sooner play the 3-5-2 than the 4-3-3 that has 2 holding mids as that has proved not to work a number of times, and whenever we try anyone at 10 they look useless.Smith deserves credit for changing it up and winning the game. I was not sure he would or could, and up to the Cash goal we looked a bit of a shambles, the Grey chance came from us being allnover the place, but the changes worked and we won. Fingers crossed his in game management continues on those lines.No we didn’t, Dean Smith, when asked, said we didn’t.Certainly for me, and many on here, it was clear from the stands it never changed from 3-5-2
If it's 4-5-1 I'd goMartinezCash Konsa Mings TargettBuendia McGinn Ramsey Luiz BaileyWatkinsIngs can come on for the last 20 minutes when we're 3-0 up.
Quote from: ozzjim on September 19, 2021, 11:58:55 PMWe went to 4-3-3 for 20 minutes and scored 3The man who decides the formation said that we didn't.
Quote from: nigel on September 20, 2021, 07:09:37 AMQuote from: ozzjim on September 19, 2021, 11:58:55 PMWe went to 4-3-3 for 20 minutes and scored 3, because we had natural width further up the field. The 3 at the back looks shaky as hell to me, Mings and Konsa look like they are always in 2 minds where to push up and press and where to drop in.For me, 4-1-2-2-1 is the ideal. I think for our players it's the best option. After that, I would sooner play the 3-5-2 than the 4-3-3 that has 2 holding mids as that has proved not to work a number of times, and whenever we try anyone at 10 they look useless.Smith deserves credit for changing it up and winning the game. I was not sure he would or could, and up to the Cash goal we looked a bit of a shambles, the Grey chance came from us being allnover the place, but the changes worked and we won. Fingers crossed his in game management continues on those lines.No we didn’t, Dean Smith, when asked, said we didn’t.Certainly for me, and many on here, it was clear from the stands it never changed from 3-5-2That's true but one half hearted jog back towards his goal aside I doubt Bailey ran backwards again. Mings was kind of in no man's land too so effectively we were playing with noone there until Young came in. It caught Benitez and Everton out but I don't think it's a tactic we should be repeating too often.