McGinn Luiz Ramsey Looked really good on Saturday all of them positive ball players going forward when possibleI hope they can carry that on against Everton because that is what we need a proper midfieldFella on Twitter made a good point about RamsayHypothetically saying if we’d have signed a midfield player for 25/30 mil in the window and he played the same as Ramsay has done so far this season we would all be delighted Saying we’ve got a future star on our hands
Exactly- an underperforming manager will always be under threat if someone better is available.
I love Dean, but unless he becomes our Alex Ferguson (but not a complete twat) it's difficult to escape the thought that his legacy is already established. Regardless of what anybody thinks of the team's performances and the role fortune played, he's the man who got us up, kept us up, and delivered our best season in a decade.He has delivered on every target he has been set, exceeded expectations in lots of ways, and unless we're at risk of relegation, he has a hell of a lot of credit in the bank, for me. My main worry is that if things start to turn, it may tarnish the legacy of the most significant manager we've had in my lifetime, alongside Saint Brian.
Quote from: Rory on September 16, 2021, 09:51:17 PMI love Dean, but unless he becomes our Alex Ferguson (but not a complete twat) it's difficult to escape the thought that his legacy is already established. Regardless of what anybody thinks of the team's performances and the role fortune played, he's the man who got us up, kept us up, and delivered our best season in a decade.He has delivered on every target he has been set, exceeded expectations in lots of ways, and unless we're at risk of relegation, he has a hell of a lot of credit in the bank, for me. My main worry is that if things start to turn, it may tarnish the legacy of the most significant manager we've had in my lifetime, alongside Saint Brian.C'mon...SirGraham, Big Ron, even Martin O'fucking Neil have all reached higher than our Dean. Unless you're younger than you write.
Quote from: eamonn on September 16, 2021, 11:22:54 PMQuote from: Rory on September 16, 2021, 09:51:17 PMI love Dean, but unless he becomes our Alex Ferguson (but not a complete twat) it's difficult to escape the thought that his legacy is already established. Regardless of what anybody thinks of the team's performances and the role fortune played, he's the man who got us up, kept us up, and delivered our best season in a decade.He has delivered on every target he has been set, exceeded expectations in lots of ways, and unless we're at risk of relegation, he has a hell of a lot of credit in the bank, for me. My main worry is that if things start to turn, it may tarnish the legacy of the most significant manager we've had in my lifetime, alongside Saint Brian.C'mon...SirGraham, Big Ron, even Martin O'fucking Neil have all reached higher than our Dean. Unless you're younger than you write.I'm too young for Sir Graham's first spell (and, in truth, BFR) but Dean inherited a squad and a club in a worse state than BFR or MON. He who walks on water was manager when I was old enough to start following us, and after him, I think Dean has achieved more than any of them. Gregory, Taylor II, O'Leary, O'Neill, Houllier, McLeish, Lambert, Sherwood, Garde, Di Matteo, Bruce. It's not an embarrassment of riches!
Quote from: Rory on September 16, 2021, 11:35:19 PMQuote from: eamonn on September 16, 2021, 11:22:54 PMQuote from: Rory on September 16, 2021, 09:51:17 PMI love Dean, but unless he becomes our Alex Ferguson (but not a complete twat) it's difficult to escape the thought that his legacy is already established. Regardless of what anybody thinks of the team's performances and the role fortune played, he's the man who got us up, kept us up, and delivered our best season in a decade.He has delivered on every target he has been set, exceeded expectations in lots of ways, and unless we're at risk of relegation, he has a hell of a lot of credit in the bank, for me. My main worry is that if things start to turn, it may tarnish the legacy of the most significant manager we've had in my lifetime, alongside Saint Brian.C'mon...SirGraham, Big Ron, even Martin O'fucking Neil have all reached higher than our Dean. Unless you're younger than you write.I'm too young for Sir Graham's first spell (and, in truth, BFR) but Dean inherited a squad and a club in a worse state than BFR or MON. He who walks on water was manager when I was old enough to start following us, and after him, I think Dean has achieved more than any of them. Gregory, Taylor II, O'Leary, O'Neill, Houllier, McLeish, Lambert, Sherwood, Garde, Di Matteo, Bruce. It's not an embarrassment of riches!Really?Yeah, he inherited a team in the Championship, but it was a team owned by two billionaires who have pumped hundreds of millions into the club. He's got us promoted, kept us up on the last day and got us mid table. Doing so with the advantage of the best player we've had for decadesNot sure how that compares favourably to most of those managers you've listed, and even then, it is a pretty low bar.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on September 16, 2021, 11:40:23 PMQuote from: Rory on September 16, 2021, 11:35:19 PMQuote from: eamonn on September 16, 2021, 11:22:54 PMQuote from: Rory on September 16, 2021, 09:51:17 PMI love Dean, but unless he becomes our Alex Ferguson (but not a complete twat) it's difficult to escape the thought that his legacy is already established. Regardless of what anybody thinks of the team's performances and the role fortune played, he's the man who got us up, kept us up, and delivered our best season in a decade.He has delivered on every target he has been set, exceeded expectations in lots of ways, and unless we're at risk of relegation, he has a hell of a lot of credit in the bank, for me. My main worry is that if things start to turn, it may tarnish the legacy of the most significant manager we've had in my lifetime, alongside Saint Brian.C'mon...SirGraham, Big Ron, even Martin O'fucking Neil have all reached higher than our Dean. Unless you're younger than you write.I'm too young for Sir Graham's first spell (and, in truth, BFR) but Dean inherited a squad and a club in a worse state than BFR or MON. He who walks on water was manager when I was old enough to start following us, and after him, I think Dean has achieved more than any of them. Gregory, Taylor II, O'Leary, O'Neill, Houllier, McLeish, Lambert, Sherwood, Garde, Di Matteo, Bruce. It's not an embarrassment of riches!Really?Yeah, he inherited a team in the Championship, but it was a team owned by two billionaires who have pumped hundreds of millions into the club. He's got us promoted, kept us up on the last day and got us mid table. Doing so with the advantage of the best player we've had for decadesNot sure how that compares favourably to most of those managers you've listed, and even then, it is a pretty low bar.I think getting us promoted, staying up and rebuilding our entire squad into one that not only consolidated but strengthened our position, is pretty okay.Gregory got us to a cup final and lost, Taylor II was just unfortunate, O'Leary did nothing much at all, O'Neill spent a fortune and did okay but achieved nothing, Houllier downgraded all of our expectations. Do we really need to continue beyond that? I didn't anticipate this amount of opposition, to be honest. Taylor II, O'Leary, Houllier, McLeish, Lambert, Garde, Di Matteo, Bruce - I'd be amazed to hear how any of them matched what Dean has done, investment or no investment.