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Offline Tayls_7

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14280 on: September 16, 2021, 06:04:29 PM »
McGinn Luiz Ramsey Looked really good on Saturday all of them positive ball players going forward when possible
I hope they can carry that on against Everton because that is what we need a proper midfield

Fella on Twitter made a good point about Ramsay
Hypothetically saying if wed have signed a midfield player for 25/30 mil in the window and he played the same as Ramsay has done so far this season we would all be delighted Saying weve got a future star on our hands

With Chuck and Sansom fighting hard to usurp them then hopefully the calls for a dedicated DM won't be as urgent as I thought it was.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14281 on: September 16, 2021, 06:05:44 PM »
McGinn Luiz Ramsey Looked really good on Saturday all of them positive ball players going forward when possible
I hope they can carry that on against Everton because that is what we need a proper midfield

Fella on Twitter made a good point about Ramsay
Hypothetically saying if wed have signed a midfield player for 25/30 mil in the window and he played the same as Ramsay has done so far this season we would all be delighted Saying weve got a future star on our hands

I like that analogy.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14282 on: September 16, 2021, 06:05:54 PM »
Exactly- an underperforming manager will always be under threat if someone better is available.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14283 on: September 16, 2021, 09:37:15 PM »
He fits us well, but Im not sure there would be too many premiership teams hammering down hisdoor if he left us. I want him to get a couple of wins in the next 5 that will steady things.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14284 on: September 16, 2021, 09:51:17 PM »
I love Dean, but unless he becomes our Alex Ferguson (but not a complete twat) it's difficult to escape the thought that his legacy is already established. Regardless of what anybody thinks of the team's performances and the role fortune played, he's the man who got us up, kept us up, and delivered our best season in a decade.

He has delivered on every target he has been set, exceeded expectations in lots of ways, and unless we're at risk of relegation, he has a hell of a lot of credit in the bank, for me. My main worry is that if things start to turn, it may tarnish the legacy of the most significant manager we've had in my lifetime, alongside Saint Brian.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14285 on: September 16, 2021, 09:53:50 PM »
Exactly- an underperforming manager will always be under threat if someone better is available.

I take it you are talking about Frank Lampard rather than Dean Smith?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14286 on: September 16, 2021, 10:25:50 PM »
Been following villa for 30 years - and hes given me some of the best villa moments since Sir Brian. 

Ill happy follow him this season.  Hes done us, and himself proud.  Would love him to be the one to win a cup, or get us into europe - and I think hes done enough to suggest thats a real possability in the next couple of years

As someone said, only the top few clubs look good week in week out, and ill happily cut him some slack for a little while yet. 


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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14287 on: September 16, 2021, 10:50:21 PM »
I do not see us winning the league anytime soon
Which is a very sad acceptance
So what realistically can he/we achieve ?
League cup, FA cup (please), European games , Bit like everyone else outside of, Chite, Chelski, Lplop, and Newton Heath
If we are not snapping at their heels  next season then it is probably not his failure but that of Team AV

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14288 on: September 16, 2021, 11:22:54 PM »
I love Dean, but unless he becomes our Alex Ferguson (but not a complete twat) it's difficult to escape the thought that his legacy is already established. Regardless of what anybody thinks of the team's performances and the role fortune played, he's the man who got us up, kept us up, and delivered our best season in a decade.

He has delivered on every target he has been set, exceeded expectations in lots of ways, and unless we're at risk of relegation, he has a hell of a lot of credit in the bank, for me. My main worry is that if things start to turn, it may tarnish the legacy of the most significant manager we've had in my lifetime, alongside Saint Brian.

C'mon...SirGraham, Big Ron, even Martin O'fucking Neil have all reached higher than our Dean. Unless you're younger than you write.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14289 on: September 16, 2021, 11:35:19 PM »
I love Dean, but unless he becomes our Alex Ferguson (but not a complete twat) it's difficult to escape the thought that his legacy is already established. Regardless of what anybody thinks of the team's performances and the role fortune played, he's the man who got us up, kept us up, and delivered our best season in a decade.

He has delivered on every target he has been set, exceeded expectations in lots of ways, and unless we're at risk of relegation, he has a hell of a lot of credit in the bank, for me. My main worry is that if things start to turn, it may tarnish the legacy of the most significant manager we've had in my lifetime, alongside Saint Brian.

C'mon...SirGraham, Big Ron, even Martin O'fucking Neil have all reached higher than our Dean. Unless you're younger than you write.

I'm too young for Sir Graham's first spell (and, in truth, BFR) but Dean inherited a squad and a club in a worse state than BFR or MON.

He who walks on water was manager when I was old enough to start following us, and after him, I think Dean has achieved more than any of them. Gregory, Taylor II, O'Leary, O'Neill, Houllier, McLeish, Lambert, Sherwood, Garde, Di Matteo, Bruce. It's not an embarrassment of riches!

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14290 on: September 16, 2021, 11:40:23 PM »
I love Dean, but unless he becomes our Alex Ferguson (but not a complete twat) it's difficult to escape the thought that his legacy is already established. Regardless of what anybody thinks of the team's performances and the role fortune played, he's the man who got us up, kept us up, and delivered our best season in a decade.

He has delivered on every target he has been set, exceeded expectations in lots of ways, and unless we're at risk of relegation, he has a hell of a lot of credit in the bank, for me. My main worry is that if things start to turn, it may tarnish the legacy of the most significant manager we've had in my lifetime, alongside Saint Brian.

C'mon...SirGraham, Big Ron, even Martin O'fucking Neil have all reached higher than our Dean. Unless you're younger than you write.

I'm too young for Sir Graham's first spell (and, in truth, BFR) but Dean inherited a squad and a club in a worse state than BFR or MON.

He who walks on water was manager when I was old enough to start following us, and after him, I think Dean has achieved more than any of them. Gregory, Taylor II, O'Leary, O'Neill, Houllier, McLeish, Lambert, Sherwood, Garde, Di Matteo, Bruce. It's not an embarrassment of riches!

Really?

Yeah, he inherited a team in the Championship, but it was a team owned by two billionaires who have pumped hundreds of millions into the club. He's got us promoted, kept us up on the last day and got us mid table. Doing so with the advantage of the best player we've had for decades

Not sure how that compares favourably to most of those managers you've listed, and even then, it is a pretty low bar.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14291 on: September 16, 2021, 11:51:12 PM »
I love Dean, but unless he becomes our Alex Ferguson (but not a complete twat) it's difficult to escape the thought that his legacy is already established. Regardless of what anybody thinks of the team's performances and the role fortune played, he's the man who got us up, kept us up, and delivered our best season in a decade.

He has delivered on every target he has been set, exceeded expectations in lots of ways, and unless we're at risk of relegation, he has a hell of a lot of credit in the bank, for me. My main worry is that if things start to turn, it may tarnish the legacy of the most significant manager we've had in my lifetime, alongside Saint Brian.

C'mon...SirGraham, Big Ron, even Martin O'fucking Neil have all reached higher than our Dean. Unless you're younger than you write.

I'm too young for Sir Graham's first spell (and, in truth, BFR) but Dean inherited a squad and a club in a worse state than BFR or MON.

He who walks on water was manager when I was old enough to start following us, and after him, I think Dean has achieved more than any of them. Gregory, Taylor II, O'Leary, O'Neill, Houllier, McLeish, Lambert, Sherwood, Garde, Di Matteo, Bruce. It's not an embarrassment of riches!

Really?

Yeah, he inherited a team in the Championship, but it was a team owned by two billionaires who have pumped hundreds of millions into the club. He's got us promoted, kept us up on the last day and got us mid table. Doing so with the advantage of the best player we've had for decades

Not sure how that compares favourably to most of those managers you've listed, and even then, it is a pretty low bar.

I think getting us promoted, staying up and rebuilding our entire squad into one that not only consolidated but strengthened our position, is pretty okay.

Gregory got us to a cup final and lost, Taylor II was just unfortunate, O'Leary did nothing much at all, O'Neill spent a fortune and did okay but achieved nothing, Houllier downgraded all of our expectations. Do we really need to continue beyond that?

I didn't anticipate this amount of opposition, to be honest. Taylor II, O'Leary, Houllier, McLeish, Lambert, Garde, Di Matteo, Bruce - I'd be amazed to hear how any of them matched what Dean has done, investment or no investment.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14292 on: September 17, 2021, 12:11:27 AM »
I love Dean, but unless he becomes our Alex Ferguson (but not a complete twat) it's difficult to escape the thought that his legacy is already established. Regardless of what anybody thinks of the team's performances and the role fortune played, he's the man who got us up, kept us up, and delivered our best season in a decade.

He has delivered on every target he has been set, exceeded expectations in lots of ways, and unless we're at risk of relegation, he has a hell of a lot of credit in the bank, for me. My main worry is that if things start to turn, it may tarnish the legacy of the most significant manager we've had in my lifetime, alongside Saint Brian.

C'mon...SirGraham, Big Ron, even Martin O'fucking Neil have all reached higher than our Dean. Unless you're younger than you write.

I'm too young for Sir Graham's first spell (and, in truth, BFR) but Dean inherited a squad and a club in a worse state than BFR or MON.

He who walks on water was manager when I was old enough to start following us, and after him, I think Dean has achieved more than any of them. Gregory, Taylor II, O'Leary, O'Neill, Houllier, McLeish, Lambert, Sherwood, Garde, Di Matteo, Bruce. It's not an embarrassment of riches!

Really?

Yeah, he inherited a team in the Championship, but it was a team owned by two billionaires who have pumped hundreds of millions into the club. He's got us promoted, kept us up on the last day and got us mid table. Doing so with the advantage of the best player we've had for decades

Not sure how that compares favourably to most of those managers you've listed, and even then, it is a pretty low bar.

I think getting us promoted, staying up and rebuilding our entire squad into one that not only consolidated but strengthened our position, is pretty okay.

Gregory got us to a cup final and lost, Taylor II was just unfortunate, O'Leary did nothing much at all, O'Neill spent a fortune and did okay but achieved nothing, Houllier downgraded all of our expectations. Do we really need to continue beyond that?

I didn't anticipate this amount of opposition, to be honest. Taylor II, O'Leary, Houllier, McLeish, Lambert, Garde, Di Matteo, Bruce - I'd be amazed to hear how any of them matched what Dean has done, investment or no investment.

I can't believe I am about to stick up for DOL, but he had us finish sixth in an environment of absolute penury. MON had us finish sixth three times. Houllier, in what is considered an awful season, had us finish ninth.

I like Dean but christ, if he's our highest achieving manager in almost 20 years then we've fallen even more than I thought we had.

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« Reply #14293 on: September 17, 2021, 06:51:26 AM »
I love Dean, but unless he becomes our Alex Ferguson (but not a complete twat) it's difficult to escape the thought that his legacy is already established. Regardless of what anybody thinks of the team's performances and the role fortune played, he's the man who got us up, kept us up, and delivered our best season in a decade.

He has delivered on every target he has been set, exceeded expectations in lots of ways, and unless we're at risk of relegation, he has a hell of a lot of credit in the bank, for me. My main worry is that if things start to turn, it may tarnish the legacy of the most significant manager we've had in my lifetime, alongside Saint Brian.

C'mon...SirGraham, Big Ron, even Martin O'fucking Neil have all reached higher than our Dean. Unless you're younger than you write.

I'm too young for Sir Graham's first spell (and, in truth, BFR) but Dean inherited a squad and a club in a worse state than BFR or MON.

He who walks on water was manager when I was old enough to start following us, and after him, I think Dean has achieved more than any of them. Gregory, Taylor II, O'Leary, O'Neill, Houllier, McLeish, Lambert, Sherwood, Garde, Di Matteo, Bruce. It's not an embarrassment of riches!

Really?

Yeah, he inherited a team in the Championship, but it was a team owned by two billionaires who have pumped hundreds of millions into the club. He's got us promoted, kept us up on the last day and got us mid table. Doing so with the advantage of the best player we've had for decades

Not sure how that compares favourably to most of those managers you've listed, and even then, it is a pretty low bar.

I think you're forgetting how far we'd fallen. Remember cabbagegate. What were we, fifteenth in the second division with one centre-half? To get us up from there, with ten wins in a row, was a staggering achievement. Ok, we had the Man City player, but so did Bruce.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14294 on: September 17, 2021, 07:07:50 AM »
Smiths not really had much chance to really spend though has he? We only spent the same as what Fulham did when we got promoted. FFP held us back. Most of those players were only 12-15 million players which isnt any great shakes anymore. So the luxury of having billionaire owners hasnt been really exploited on the transfer market. Not like the likes of what Man City and Chelsea had done when they had the chance.

Also those players have improved us and also Id say most have gone up in their value.

I quite like the approach were taking in the market now, a few exciting players, a couple with experience and purchasing talented teenagers, especially if it sees the likes of some our wonderful youth team getting to the same place as signing a few marquee signings.

That article SE posted on the transfer thread from the Liverpool supporter was spot on.

 


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