Another manager took his team down but he'd done well, or at least he's done well since. Ours should be sacked because he's going to relegate us twice. Your hindsight is spot on but I'm not sure about your seeing into the future.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on July 01, 2020, 10:57:34 AMAnother manager took his team down but he'd done well, or at least he's done well since. Ours should be sacked because he's going to relegate us twice. Your hindsight is spot on but I'm not sure about your seeing into the future. He did well with a limited resource and at the time got a lot of praise for how well he did despite going down. I can see why they kept him. It all very much depends on what resource a relegated club had, and how well the manager did. If Huddersfield had got relegated first season up it would have been harsh on Wagner had they fired him as they played OK beyond expectations. in the end they just about stayed up.Smith has not done well, we are not going down as plucky losers we are playing very poor football and have underachieved given the money spent. He also was poor last season when Grealish was out hence my comment that I can't see him doing well if we go down. He had a purple patch where everything clicked, as did Sherwood for a while. Been found wanting and can't see it improving. Obviously would love to be proven wrong though! I was happy with smith when we appointed him but it hasn't worked out. When things aren't working you need to change, not wait longer. We made that mistake with Lambert who also played good football with a smaller team before coming in and playing defensive anti-football with 'young and hungry' moneyball players. I wouldn't want Smith even if we manage to stay up, he just has not done well enough. Ditto Suso.Not that Dyche would be my first choice as a replacement, but he definitely has a better track record. Would rather see us go for someone that has done well in similar circumstances with a bigger team like Benitez, though can't see that happening given his history with Purslow.
The way I understood, as part of a long term strategy to ensure stability, the new management structure (DOF/head coach instead of manager) was brought in to enable the club to hire and fire quickly and easily without an O'Neill style hangover. Much was written about this southampton/Brentford model when we appointed Dean Smith. I've very suprised with the results he's still in charge. Althought, my statto friend tells me our xG stat has improved since the restart.
He just looks found out to me, with the turning circle of a tanker and a lack of pace. Forget Webster, we'd have been better off signing Dawson from the Albion for half the price and some considerable experience.
I think appointing Dyche would be another instance of us appointing someone with no experience of what's he's being asked to do, i.e. make a big club successful. I'm all for giving guys a chance to prove themselves but do we have to keep doing it? Why not try to go for someone who has got some experience of making a big club successful?
Abraham in this team and we'd be at least where Brighton are, and probably with more points.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on July 01, 2020, 11:26:10 AMAbraham in this team and we'd be at least where Brighton are, and probably with more points.Which wasn't ever going to be possible given Chelsea's situation. So that being the case, attempting to replace somebody like Tammy with Wesley was ridiculous.
I'm really not that bothered that other teams spent as badly as we did on a striker. Despite that at least Newcastle have stayed out of trouble, and did sign that Saint-Maximin who looks like everything our useless wingers aren't. Personally I'd have gone for Maupay. Preferably as well as Wesley, but if the money wasn't available then instead of. He's scored some very important goals for Brighton this year, quite a few of which have been match winners.
I know not all trasnfers work out, but this year I'd argue that hardly any at all have:Heaton - yes, obviously missing second half of season not his fault.Jota - no. Couldn't get into a crap Blues team, and obvious why. Slow and physically weak.Wesley - no, reasons above.Trezeguet - no, an even more rubbish and less effective Andre GreenNakamba - no. Rubbish, can't play football.Luiz - just about, our best player of late.Mings - no, huge, huge disappointment, mistakes all over the shop.Samatta - no. Very average indeed.Baston - no, pointless non-signingDrinkwater - no, just about the worst loan singing we've ever made. Woeful.Engels - no. Started off OK, has nose-dived since.Reina - no, way past his best, lacks fitness and that run out to midfield against Leicester, fuck me.Konsa - jury out, looks promising but no way the finished article.
Quote from: Risso on July 01, 2020, 10:45:41 AMI know not all trasnfers work out, but this year I'd argue that hardly any at all have:Heaton - yes, obviously missing second half of season not his fault.Jota - no. Couldn't get into a crap Blues team, and obvious why. Slow and physically weak.Wesley - no, reasons above.Trezeguet - no, an even more rubbish and less effective Andre GreenNakamba - no. Rubbish, can't play football.Luiz - just about, our best player of late.Mings - no, huge, huge disappointment, mistakes all over the shop.Samatta - no. Very average indeed.Baston - no, pointless non-signingDrinkwater - no, just about the worst loan singing we've ever made. Woeful.Engels - no. Started off OK, has nose-dived since.Reina - no, way past his best, lacks fitness and that run out to midfield against Leicester, fuck me.Konsa - jury out, looks promising but no way the finished article.So it's not Dean Smith's fault then. How could any manager expect to keep a team up with a squad as bereft of talent and attitude as you suggest?