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Author Topic: Dean Smith - Confirmed  (Read 1809943 times)

Offline Steve67

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3390 on: February 14, 2019, 07:36:36 PM »
Robbo, Hause was not our worst defender, he wasn't responsible for the goal either.  Yes he has all the pace of a snail on a zimmer frame but he wasn't our worst player.  A crap decision was Tommy diving in when he didn't need to.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3391 on: February 14, 2019, 07:44:07 PM »
I'm with ads on this. We've annoyingly gone backwards from the first few weeks he was here but he showed then how bloody well his teams can play and there's no reason why we can't get back to that kind of level. We need to keep a bit of faith I think.

Second/thirded. Exactly how I feel

I’m on-board this train as well
So to speak.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3392 on: February 14, 2019, 07:52:43 PM »
I'm with ads on this. We've annoyingly gone backwards from the first few weeks he was here but he showed then how bloody well his teams can play and there's no reason why we can't get back to that kind of level. We need to keep a bit of faith I think.

Second/thirded. Exactly how I feel

I’m on-board this train as well
So to speak.

Dean has my backing.  Lazy, unmotivated,  underperformIng, ill fitting players don't.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3393 on: February 14, 2019, 07:55:53 PM »
I don’t want him sacked but he needs to get more out of the players he’s currently got. We can’t keep saying that it’s not his team or players. If he has aspirations to be a successful manager then this excuse is just not good enough.

We can keep saying that. Because it's true.

And people saying to change the system to suit the players are barking up the wrong tree. Why play Steve Bruce football again? It doesn't bloody work.

Well this doesnt bloody work either

Because its short - term thinking to expect it to.

It’s not short term thinking to expect to be in the top half of the Champoinship whoever our manager or players are. He should be able to get a tune out of this lot.

No point playing death metal when the crowd want classical and nobody listens to death metal any more.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3394 on: February 14, 2019, 08:20:23 PM »
That argument assumes football is binary, it isn’t. There’s styles between Smith’s ideal and the nightmare of Bruce. Dean needs to work it out.

Offline Brassneck

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3395 on: February 14, 2019, 08:21:14 PM »
I don’t want him sacked but he needs to get more out of the players he’s currently got. We can’t keep saying that it’s not his team or players. If he has aspirations to be a successful manager then this excuse is just not good enough.

We can keep saying that. Because it's true.

And people saying to change the system to suit the players are barking up the wrong tree. Why play Steve Bruce football again? It doesn't bloody work.

Well this doesnt bloody work either

Because its short - term thinking to expect it to.

It’s not short term thinking to expect to be in the top half of the Champoinship whoever our manager or players are. He should be able to get a tune out of this lot.

You might say that Sunderland thought that too, last season.  Or Sheffield U & W, Wolves, Leeds, etc, etc.

We have no God given right to expect anything.  We must work hard and show our opponents respect.  We are where we are on merit and you are kidding yourself if you think we have an automatic right to be in the top half of this league.

Offline nigel

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3396 on: February 14, 2019, 08:26:58 PM »
There's going to be a mass clear out in the summer.
Kodja, Adomah and the like will go, and, we will almost certainly lose Jack and Tammy, too, but, I think McGinn will stay.
Replacement wise, I can see Maupay, Sawyers and Lolley being with us next season.

We must show patience.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3397 on: February 14, 2019, 08:45:40 PM »
Very well said Chris and Drummond.
Seconded

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3398 on: February 14, 2019, 08:46:32 PM »
Nicked from Twitter

Dean Smith trying to play his way with a Steve Bruce squad is like Da Vinci painting the Mona Lisa with crayons.

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3399 on: February 14, 2019, 08:47:19 PM »
I'm with ads on this. We've annoyingly gone backwards from the first few weeks he was here but he showed then how bloody well his teams can play and there's no reason why we can't get back to that kind of level. We need to keep a bit of faith I think.

Second/thirded. Exactly how I feel
Same here.

Offline rougegorge

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3400 on: February 14, 2019, 08:49:49 PM »
I want him to succeed, but the massive dip in form and adverse results since Christmas is obviously concerning.

I'm now in two minds about him; it was so good for a short while and he has shown that he can manage teams to play attractive football, but equally neither Walsall nor Brentford had much to show for it with regard to their overall position.

He says that no team has outplayed Brentford at home for 4 seasons, which would indicate that he doesn't always get the results he should have done; so when a team gets outplayed as is happening to us with alarming regularity, it doesn't look as if he knows how to eke out a result.

A lot of fans are saying that he can't get the players to play like he wants and that they are not his squad, but thus far he hasn't demonstrated a capability to adapt and show versatility, flexibility  and resilience.

In my mind I know there is also an element of football snobbery; does experience at  Walsall and Brentford lend itself to being successful at Villa? Also being a Villa fan makes us want him to succeed even more but it doesn't bestow extra powers upon him.

Offline Villa75

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3401 on: February 14, 2019, 09:20:52 PM »
Rosler and Warburton were successful at Brentford (with better win ratios than Smith). Where are they now?

I get it. He did ok at a smaller club. He's a Villa fan. But, his players or not, he has to do better than he is doing at the moment. We're not only not winning, we look like we're going backwards!

Offline pooligan

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3402 on: February 14, 2019, 09:58:57 PM »
Rosler is the manger of Malmo who played Chelsea tonight

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3403 on: February 14, 2019, 10:27:58 PM »
Rosler is the manger of Malmo who played Chelsea tonight

I think that Dean Smith would get Malmo into the UEFA Cup.

Online tomd2103

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3404 on: February 15, 2019, 01:39:19 AM »
I don’t want him sacked but he needs to get more out of the players he’s currently got. We can’t keep saying that it’s not his team or players. If he has aspirations to be a successful manager then this excuse is just not good enough.

We can keep saying that. Because it's true.

And people saying to change the system to suit the players are barking up the wrong tree. Why play Steve Bruce football again? It doesn't bloody work.

Well this doesnt bloody work either

Because its short - term thinking to expect it to.

It’s not short term thinking to expect to be in the top half of the Champoinship whoever our manager or players are. He should be able to get a tune out of this lot.

You might say that Sunderland thought that too, last season.  Or Sheffield U & W, Wolves, Leeds, etc, etc.

We have no God given right to expect anything.  We must work hard and show our opponents respect.  We are where we are on merit and you are kidding yourself if you think we have an automatic right to be in the top half of this league.

Agree.  Said it after watching our first few games in the Championship - the teams down here do lack quality in the final third, but they are organised and work hard.  If you can't match their work rate, then you aren't going to win many games. 

 


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