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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2715 on: September 14, 2021, 10:01:02 AM »
Ha, I was going to mention him in my post.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2716 on: September 14, 2021, 10:09:19 AM »

I know the Reverend Richard Coles a tiny bit, and that sums him up perfectly.

He's the vicar in my sister's village. I see him on the train to London quite a bit, as he uses the same line I do to get to London. Had a chat with him once, and told him that I was a big fan of Bronski Beat and The Communards back in the day. He's a really lovely bloke.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2717 on: September 14, 2021, 10:22:32 AM »
Reminds me of a weird experience i had in a Birmingham pub years back when a drunk glaswegian Rangers top-wearing fan accosted me carrying a heavy looking scrap book. I was slightly nervous but he turned out to be tame, but the scrapbook just contained photo's of him following the Chelsea headhunters. No idea what was going on there except they have some vague hoolie link-up based on all that sectarian crap. Mind I once had a very drunk Celtic fan repeatedly ask me if I was Catholic or Protestant in a menacing way in another pub. Church of England seemed to confuse him and he went away. ;D.

As a recovering Catholic and atheist, I've always been a big fan of the CofE (whilst knowing nothing about it). It seems like a religion that sort of believes, but doesn't take it that seriously. As early Alan Partridge put it, he believes in God, but thinks of him as a kind of gas.
Ha, the thing I like about CofE/Church of Wales is that it's quite a broad church as it were.  I struggle with censuses etc because I see my religion as atheist/Church of Wales.  I don't believe in a magical sky fairy or such, but am quite happy with the concept of 'god' being a cover-all word for 'good' emotions (happiness, peace, love, ...).  Once you remove the "magic" elements from it all, CoE-type christianity becomes just about being nice to other people, finding happiness in oneself rather than external things (possessions, power, money, ..), seeking love over hate ... basically, it's a heavily rave-influenced version of moral philosophy.

--

Anecdotally, when I was living in Scotland, I found that there were a lot of really nice "Rangers" supporters, but it was absolutely undeniable that any encounters with dickhead football supporters were 90%+ certain to be with Rangers fans.  I do think the knobhead section of their support is a minority, and that by and large they're nice folk.  But my word, when you get a bad Rangers fan they really are something else.  Hibernian have a weird fanbase, I find -- they seem to go to real extremes, either safe-as-fuck great person or utter knobhead, with very little in between.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2718 on: September 14, 2021, 10:27:17 AM »
Point of order: Church in Wales. If you're going to be a follower, you should at least get the name right. 🙂

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2719 on: September 14, 2021, 10:31:01 AM »

I know the Reverend Richard Coles a tiny bit, and that sums him up perfectly.

He's the vicar in my sister's village. I see him on the train to London quite a bit, as he uses the same line I do to get to London. Had a chat with him once, and told him that I was a big fan of Bronski Beat and The Communards back in the day. He's a really lovely bloke.

He's great.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2720 on: September 14, 2021, 10:32:53 AM »

I know the Reverend Richard Coles a tiny bit, and that sums him up perfectly.

He's the vicar in my sister's village. I see him on the train to London quite a bit, as he uses the same line I do to get to London. Had a chat with him once, and told him that I was a big fan of Bronski Beat and The Communards back in the day. He's a really lovely bloke.

He's great.

Yep, one of the best follows on the Twatter platform.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2721 on: September 14, 2021, 10:35:42 AM »
Reminds me of a weird experience i had in a Birmingham pub years back when a drunk glaswegian Rangers top-wearing fan accosted me carrying a heavy looking scrap book. I was slightly nervous but he turned out to be tame, but the scrapbook just contained photo's of him following the Chelsea headhunters. No idea what was going on there except they have some vague hoolie link-up based on all that sectarian crap. Mind I once had a very drunk Celtic fan repeatedly ask me if I was Catholic or Protestant in a menacing way in another pub. Church of England seemed to confuse him and he went away. ;D.

As a recovering Catholic and atheist, I've always been a big fan of the CofE (whilst knowing nothing about it). It seems like a religion that sort of believes, but doesn't take it that seriously. As early Alan Partridge put it, he believes in God, but thinks of him as a kind of gas.

I am Episcopalian (American anglican ... long story, I needed to get baptised get married and these guys were the most easy going) and it's probably even more watered down than the CofE. A true church for arheists :-)

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2722 on: September 14, 2021, 10:40:49 AM »
Reminds me of a weird experience i had in a Birmingham pub years back when a drunk glaswegian Rangers top-wearing fan accosted me carrying a heavy looking scrap book. I was slightly nervous but he turned out to be tame, but the scrapbook just contained photo's of him following the Chelsea headhunters. No idea what was going on there except they have some vague hoolie link-up based on all that sectarian crap. Mind I once had a very drunk Celtic fan repeatedly ask me if I was Catholic or Protestant in a menacing way in another pub. Church of England seemed to confuse him and he went away. ;D.

As a recovering Catholic and atheist, I've always been a big fan of the CofE (whilst knowing nothing about it). It seems like a religion that sort of believes, but doesn't take it that seriously. As early Alan Partridge put it, he believes in God, but thinks of him as a kind of gas.
Ha, the thing I like about CofE/Church of Wales is that it's quite a broad church as it were.  I struggle with censuses etc because I see my religion as atheist/Church of Wales.  I don't believe in a magical sky fairy or such, but am quite happy with the concept of 'god' being a cover-all word for 'good' emotions (happiness, peace, love, ...).  Once you remove the "magic" elements from it all, CoE-type christianity becomes just about being nice to other people, finding happiness in oneself rather than external things (possessions, power, money, ..), seeking love over hate ... basically, it's a heavily rave-influenced version of moral philosophy.

--

Anecdotally, when I was living in Scotland, I found that there were a lot of really nice "Rangers" supporters, but it was absolutely undeniable that any encounters with dickhead football supporters were 90%+ certain to be with Rangers fans.  I do think the knobhead section of their support is a minority, and that by and large they're nice folk.  But my word, when you get a bad Rangers fan they really are something else.  Hibernian have a weird fanbase, I find -- they seem to go to real extremes, either safe-as-fuck great person or utter knobhead, with very little in between.

Hibs fans, as any reader of Irvine Welsh will know, are a funny lot. They had one of the most active and feared 'firms' back in the day, but it was mainly (in my experience. God knows there will have been plenty of psychopaths) daft lads playing at being hard men. I half-follow them because I went to school in Hibs territory, my dad played for their youth team and it gives me an insight into what it must be like to be a Blues fan, i.e. permanently shite

That's until they started being a bit better. And there's this, obviously.


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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2723 on: September 14, 2021, 10:43:49 AM »
That's a bit mawkishly "You'll Never Walk Alone" for my tastes.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2724 on: September 14, 2021, 10:47:48 AM »
After 114 years without winning the cup, I'll let them have their moment.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2725 on: September 14, 2021, 10:48:04 AM »
To confuse things even more the Anglican church contains both CofE and Anglo-Catholiciism.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2726 on: September 14, 2021, 10:58:17 AM »

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2727 on: September 14, 2021, 11:13:38 AM »
Reminds me of a weird experience i had in a Birmingham pub years back when a drunk glaswegian Rangers top-wearing fan accosted me carrying a heavy looking scrap book. I was slightly nervous but he turned out to be tame, but the scrapbook just contained photo's of him following the Chelsea headhunters. No idea what was going on there except they have some vague hoolie link-up based on all that sectarian crap. Mind I once had a very drunk Celtic fan repeatedly ask me if I was Catholic or Protestant in a menacing way in another pub. Church of England seemed to confuse him and he went away. ;D.

As a recovering Catholic and atheist, I've always been a big fan of the CofE (whilst knowing nothing about it). It seems like a religion that sort of believes, but doesn't take it that seriously. As early Alan Partridge put it, he believes in God, but thinks of him as a kind of gas.
Ha, the thing I like about CofE/Church of Wales is that it's quite a broad church as it were.  I struggle with censuses etc because I see my religion as atheist/Church of Wales.  I don't believe in a magical sky fairy or such, but am quite happy with the concept of 'god' being a cover-all word for 'good' emotions (happiness, peace, love, ...).  Once you remove the "magic" elements from it all, CoE-type christianity becomes just about being nice to other people, finding happiness in oneself rather than external things (possessions, power, money, ..), seeking love over hate ... basically, it's a heavily rave-influenced version of moral philosophy.

--

Anecdotally, when I was living in Scotland, I found that there were a lot of really nice "Rangers" supporters, but it was absolutely undeniable that any encounters with dickhead football supporters were 90%+ certain to be with Rangers fans.  I do think the knobhead section of their support is a minority, and that by and large they're nice folk.  But my word, when you get a bad Rangers fan they really are something else.  Hibernian have a weird fanbase, I find -- they seem to go to real extremes, either safe-as-fuck great person or utter knobhead, with very little in between.

Hibs fans, as any reader of Irvine Welsh will know, are a funny lot. They had one of the most active and feared 'firms' back in the day, but it was mainly (in my experience. God knows there will have been plenty of psychopaths) daft lads playing at being hard men. I half-follow them because I went to school in Hibs territory, my dad played for their youth team and it gives me an insight into what it must be like to be a Blues fan, i.e. permanently shite

That's until they started being a bit better. And there's this, obviously.



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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2728 on: September 14, 2021, 11:39:54 AM »
Reminds me of a weird experience i had in a Birmingham pub years back when a drunk glaswegian Rangers top-wearing fan accosted me carrying a heavy looking scrap book. I was slightly nervous but he turned out to be tame, but the scrapbook just contained photo's of him following the Chelsea headhunters. No idea what was going on there except they have some vague hoolie link-up based on all that sectarian crap. Mind I once had a very drunk Celtic fan repeatedly ask me if I was Catholic or Protestant in a menacing way in another pub. Church of England seemed to confuse him and he went away. ;D.

As a recovering Catholic and atheist, I've always been a big fan of the CofE (whilst knowing nothing about it). It seems like a religion that sort of believes, but doesn't take it that seriously. As early Alan Partridge put it, he believes in God, but thinks of him as a kind of gas.
Ha, the thing I like about CofE/Church of Wales is that it's quite a broad church as it were.  I struggle with censuses etc because I see my religion as atheist/Church of Wales.  I don't believe in a magical sky fairy or such, but am quite happy with the concept of 'god' being a cover-all word for 'good' emotions (happiness, peace, love, ...).  Once you remove the "magic" elements from it all, CoE-type christianity becomes just about being nice to other people, finding happiness in oneself rather than external things (possessions, power, money, ..), seeking love over hate ... basically, it's a heavily rave-influenced version of moral philosophy.

--

Anecdotally, when I was living in Scotland, I found that there were a lot of really nice "Rangers" supporters, but it was absolutely undeniable that any encounters with dickhead football supporters were 90%+ certain to be with Rangers fans.  I do think the knobhead section of their support is a minority, and that by and large they're nice folk.  But my word, when you get a bad Rangers fan they really are something else.  Hibernian have a weird fanbase, I find -- they seem to go to real extremes, either safe-as-fuck great person or utter knobhead, with very little in between.

Hibs fans, as any reader of Irvine Welsh will know, are a funny lot. They had one of the most active and feared 'firms' back in the day, but it was mainly (in my experience. God knows there will have been plenty of psychopaths) daft lads playing at being hard men. I half-follow them because I went to school in Hibs territory, my dad played for their youth team and it gives me an insight into what it must be like to be a Blues fan, i.e. permanently shite

That's until they started being a bit better. And there's this, obviously.



I'd developed a soft spot for them from reading Irvine Welsh from right back at the start, and I was in Croatia for my mates stag do on the day. I thought I was on the pub WiFi watching it on my phone but that turned out to be incorrect and it cost me the best part of 350.

It still remains the happiest I've been at a non-Villa victory, the context of the game and the way they did it with two late goals, and against them. Plus, it was a really good game and was the first time I'd seen Super John. Love that he gets a mention in The Blade Artist, think it was Renton that says "I like the look of McGinn in midield" when they're at the game.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2729 on: September 14, 2021, 12:17:19 PM »
To avoid a massive quotathon:
@WDV: definitely. Any terrace anthem that begins with "my heart was broken", and has as its main refrain the word "sorrow" will do for me.

@LeeB: it was Renton, but wasn't it in Dead Men's Trousers? I can't remember any chapters of the Blade Artist written from Renton's perspective. I'm probably wrong about both.

 


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