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[Brend'Watkins]

West Ham have better turnover than we do.  They have a much bigger stadium and are in London so they have access to a greater population which helps fill it.  We are the biggest and currently the most successful/best performing club in the region and could attract more fans or casual support if it wasn't such a ball ache procuring tickets. GA+ is a rip off, the club know it's a rip off, punters know it's a rip off and will be less inclined to go down this route again because of it.

Expand the ground capacity, make food/drink as it is accessible and grow captive market income that way. I'm concerned that the ground expansion talk has gone so quiet, we should by now be looking at graphics of an expanded 55K - 60K Villa Park..

[LeeB]

Also significant both Newcastle and Spurs have considerably  bigger stadiums than us

So do West Ham and we have bigger match day revenue

I'd imagine so, aside from capacity they will attract far more "daytripper" fans who will visit as part of a trip to the Capital buy food and drink and visit the club shop. They are the sort of people Heck and the owners would prefer at Villa Park rather than the likes of me who does nothing like it and if I do buy a pint I grimace at every mouthfull....

West Ham also have a massive shopping centre on their doorstep with loads of food and drink options just outside the stadium, I bet that impacts their matchday revenue a bit and it's why I don't think we'd ever consider a proper city centre venue.

[VILLA MOLE]

West Ham have better turnover than we do.  They have a much bigger stadium and are in London so they have access to a greater population which helps fill it.  We are the biggest and currently the most successful/best performing club in the region and could attract more fans or casual support if it wasn't such a ball ache procuring tickets. GA+ is a rip off, the club know it's a rip off, punters know it's a rip off and will be less inclined to go down this route again because of it.

Expand the ground capacity, make food/drink as it is accessible and grow captive market income that way. I'm concerned that the ground expansion talk has gone so quiet, we should by now be looking at graphics of an expanded 55K - 60K Villa Park..

Maybe they though 50,000 just wasnt going to cut it and are now looking for 60,000 ?

[rob_bridge]

Upgrading Villa Park is a long term financial decision though.

Yes +£50k would give us double the GA+ seat and 7-8k extra GA seats, but it will take years.

Heck is for here and now - and we'll be close to £400m turnover this season with the stadium we have. Then he'll be gone.

Yes - that's his Brucie Bonus target. I suspect he is confident of hitting it

[Villan82]

Upgrading Villa Park is a long term financial decision though.

Yes +£50k would give us double the GA+ seat and 7-8k extra GA seats, but it will take years.

Heck is for here and now - and we'll be close to £400m turnover this season with the stadium we have. Then he'll be gone.

Yes - that's his Brucie Bonus target. I suspect he is confident of hitting it

So it was a good idea 2 years ago and now it's not. The whole thing is so bizarre. One man's CV shouldn't come at the expense of the club's future.

[Villan82]

Expand the ground capacity, make food/drink as it is accessible and grow captive market income that way. I'm concerned that the ground expansion talk has gone so quiet, we should by now be looking at graphics of an expanded 55K - 60K Villa Park..

At best all we'll get is re-arranged exits in the stands and a couple of hundred new seats pushed in.

Edit It's funny in a twisted way that we have basically ended up with Doug Ellis on steroids. Finding the cheapest most crass way to do things promised and then rinsing us any chance he gets. Thinking short term etc.

[sid1964]

When Chris Heck leaves us and the turn over is £400 million, it will be interesting to see what the next person who fills that role, what there remit will be with regards to increasing the turnover to £450 million + and how they are going to achieve that figure?

[ChicagoLion]

When Chris Heck leaves us and the turn over is £400 million, it will be interesting to see what the next person who fills that role, what there remit will be with regards to increasing the turnover to £450 million + and how they are going to achieve that figure?

all predicated on team success which means Europe at least Europa but to keep on growing revenue it means CL.

[eamonn]

Is it not worth having a city centre store again? Physical retail may be dying but we'd probably only need a few key dates in the diary (kit launches/player in-store signings) to make it work if we continue to be top five and CL on the pitch. Brand awareness in the city would surely help, floating punters/tourists wanting to be part of a success story.

I'd be interested to see how our Villa tours revenue looks like and how it compares to other clubs version of this in smaller cities but where grounds are located more centrally (Newcastle, Leeds, Everton?).

[Drummond]

Our commercial revenue will be through the roof just by the amount of fucking replica shirts I've bought for me and my lad this season!

[AV82EC]

The commercial revenue is only going to be fixed and improved upon with 5 years of continual European Qualification.

 If you qualify for Europe the broadcast income kind of takes care of itself and as long as you maintain top 8 in the PL you’re normally ok in maintaining broadcast revenue.

Match day income can be managed two ways, scarcify the supply or increase the supply to increase revenue, we've chosen scarcity as a short term option, it remains to be seen what if any longer term options will happen.

[paul_e]

Upgrading Villa Park is a long term financial decision though.

Yes +£50k would give us double the GA+ seat and 7-8k extra GA seats, but it will take years.

Heck is for here and now - and we'll be close to £400m turnover this season with the stadium we have. Then he'll be gone.

Yes - that's his Brucie Bonus target. I suspect he is confident of hitting it

So it was a good idea 2 years ago and now it's not. The whole thing is so bizarre. One man's CV shouldn't come at the expense of the club's future.

2 years ago we didn't have sucha  big share of the club owned by Atairos/Comcast and didn't have people on the board with a specialist background in stadium development.

[Demitri_C]

Getting better, but blimey - less than half the commercial income of Newcastle and less than one-sixth that of Spurs.

Spurs are on a completely  different  level to us unfortunately. They have near enough have events all the time that brings them stupids amounts of revenue.

[Villan82]

Upgrading Villa Park is a long term financial decision though.

Yes +£50k would give us double the GA+ seat and 7-8k extra GA seats, but it will take years.

Heck is for here and now - and we'll be close to £400m turnover this season with the stadium we have. Then he'll be gone.

Yes - that's his Brucie Bonus target. I suspect he is confident of hitting it

So it was a good idea 2 years ago and now it's not. The whole thing is so bizarre. One man's CV shouldn't come at the expense of the club's future.

2 years ago we didn't have sucha  big share of the club owned by Atairos/Comcast and didn't have people on the board with a specialist background in stadium development.

And they came up with saving the 'historic North stand' and switching the exits around to make a few hundred new seats?!

[GarTomas]

How do Borussia and Bayern have such good match day revenue? I thought ticket prices were capped in Germany?