NSWE Investment

[Risso]

By the way, can we sell the naming rights to one of Wes's companies please, ie Fortress Investment group.

Fortress Villa Park for the win.

[chrisw1]

Smithfield is off the table so not much point cluttering up the thread discussing it.

Lendlease and the City Council aren't going to give up a project aiming to build almost a million sq ft of offices, half a million sq ft of retail/leisure and 3,000 residential apartments just to enable us to build a big fuck off stadium.

[LeeB]

By the way, can we sell the naming rights to one of Wes's companies please, ie Fortress Investment group.

Fortress Villa Park for the win.

My God that's an absolute slam dunk, surely?

[kippaxvilla2]

Michael Angelakis of Atairos appointed a director of NSWE.

I haven’t seen much of him since Boys from the Blackstuff.

[The Man With A Stick]

Smithfield is off the table so not much point cluttering up the thread discussing it.

Lendlease and the City Council aren't going to give up a project aiming to build almost a million sq ft of offices, half a million sq ft of retail/leisure and 3,000 residential apartments just to enable us to build a big fuck off stadium.

I know a cracking plot of land in Witton where they could build them instead.  There's a lovely park and a Jacobean listed house next door and two train stations within walking distance.

[Risso]

Smithfield is off the table so not much point cluttering up the thread discussing it.

Lendlease and the City Council aren't going to give up a project aiming to build almost a million sq ft of offices, half a million sq ft of retail/leisure and 3,000 residential apartments just to enable us to build a big fuck off stadium.

I know a cracking plot of land in Witton where they could build them instead.  There's a lovely park and a Jacobean listed house next door and two train stations within walking distance.

On the downside, it's an extremely run down residential area, with little else in the area, very poor access and the trains are next to no use.

[Sexual Ealing]

I think you're more likely to drink if you've had a drink. Seemless transition like going pub to pub. Plus I don't think catering for general food/drink etc is too big an impact. The real money would be in the expensive seats and the food/drink etc they provide.

Also, it's highly likely that the catering at big football clubs is outsourced, with the catering company buying a license to sell its horrible food to the punters. It's not like the accountants at Villa will be fretting over whether Donna and Jason Public will be buying an extra packet of crisps to accompany their balti pies.

[ozzjim]

Compass has the contract at Villa.

[pablo_picasso]

They might if Atairos own all the stuff around it in a mixed use development. Also, and I've said this before, but the two grounds I most like in terms of situation and being able to wander around with a load of choice beforehand are Arsenal and Newcastle. When you get to both those grounds, there never seems to be a shortage of punters enjoying themselves*, and they never seem to be refusing to buy food and drink because they've already had some elsewhere. What we should be aiming for are world class facilities, where people can turn up 3 hours before kick off, to enjoy themselves in a welcoming environment with a good range of options and great facilities, with decent service on top.

At the moment, we're offering old fashioned dingy concourses, with nowhere to sit, disgraceful toilets, a crap range of food and drink, and little chance of getting served before kick off and at half time. I'd love to be able to get a train to New Street, maybe have a couple of pints in Brum, then wander to the ground and get something to eat and more drinks there. Then stay around for an hour after and walk back and get the train home.

I've said also said before that the only way for Atairos to make a return on their investment will be to have a massive mixed use development, and these board level appointments would seem to confirm that that's very much the thinking.

"Tailgate parties" like the ones they had at Wembley on the few occasions I went to watch the NFL were a lot of fun & me & a group of mates spent a lot of time & a lot of money before we even entered the ground.

Not sure if they have them at Spurs stadium, as I haven't watched NFL over here for a few years now, but ideally, there needs to be a festival atmosphere with lots of music, food, drink, games & market stalls to make a good day of it.

The NFL games have it down to a tee...

[The Man With A Stick]

Smithfield is off the table so not much point cluttering up the thread discussing it.

Lendlease and the City Council aren't going to give up a project aiming to build almost a million sq ft of offices, half a million sq ft of retail/leisure and 3,000 residential apartments just to enable us to build a big fuck off stadium.

I know a cracking plot of land in Witton where they could build them instead.  There's a lovely park and a Jacobean listed house next door and two train stations within walking distance.

On the downside, it's an extremely run down residential area, with little else in the area, very poor access and the trains are next to no use.

Oh I'm pretty much set on moving now and I think this latest news pretty much confirms it.  It'll be a sad day but we can't hold on to the past forever can we.

[Sexual Ealing]

Compass has the contract at Villa.

That makes grim sense.

[Risso]

They might if Atairos own all the stuff around it in a mixed use development. Also, and I've said this before, but the two grounds I most like in terms of situation and being able to wander around with a load of choice beforehand are Arsenal and Newcastle. When you get to both those grounds, there never seems to be a shortage of punters enjoying themselves*, and they never seem to be refusing to buy food and drink because they've already had some elsewhere. What we should be aiming for are world class facilities, where people can turn up 3 hours before kick off, to enjoy themselves in a welcoming environment with a good range of options and great facilities, with decent service on top.

At the moment, we're offering old fashioned dingy concourses, with nowhere to sit, disgraceful toilets, a crap range of food and drink, and little chance of getting served before kick off and at half time. I'd love to be able to get a train to New Street, maybe have a couple of pints in Brum, then wander to the ground and get something to eat and more drinks there. Then stay around for an hour after and walk back and get the train home.

I've said also said before that the only way for Atairos to make a return on their investment will be to have a massive mixed use development, and these board level appointments would seem to confirm that that's very much the thinking.

"Tailgate parties" like the ones they had at Wembley on the few occasions I went to watch the NFL were a lot of fun & me & a group of mates spent a lot of time & a lot of money before we even entered the ground.

Not sure if they have them at Spurs stadium, as I haven't watched NFL over here for a few years now, but ideally, there needs to be a festival atmosphere with lots of music, food, drink, games & market stalls to make a good day of it.

The NFL games have it down to a tee...

I've never been to a UK NFL game (and have no desire to) but I went to one in New York, and it's very much a day out. Obviously the game lends itself a lot more to not actually bothering to watch most of it ( ) but as you say, it's an absolute masterclass in making money.

[Clampy]

Smithfield is off the table so not much point cluttering up the thread discussing it.

Lendlease and the City Council aren't going to give up a project aiming to build almost a million sq ft of offices, half a million sq ft of retail/leisure and 3,000 residential apartments just to enable us to build a big fuck off stadium.

I know a cracking plot of land in Witton where they could build them instead.  There's a lovely park and a Jacobean listed house next door and two train stations within walking distance.

On the downside, it's an extremely run down residential area, with little else in the area, very poor access and the trains are next to no use.

The trains are fine for getting you there to be fair.

[Risso]

The trains are fine for getting you there to be fair.

Mot of the problems are after the game rather than before. Obviously because everybody's getting away at more or less the same time at the end, whereas arriving in the area can be any point from five minutes to two or three hours before, so it's spread out.

[pablo_picasso]

They might if Atairos own all the stuff around it in a mixed use development. Also, and I've said this before, but the two grounds I most like in terms of situation and being able to wander around with a load of choice beforehand are Arsenal and Newcastle. When you get to both those grounds, there never seems to be a shortage of punters enjoying themselves*, and they never seem to be refusing to buy food and drink because they've already had some elsewhere. What we should be aiming for are world class facilities, where people can turn up 3 hours before kick off, to enjoy themselves in a welcoming environment with a good range of options and great facilities, with decent service on top.

At the moment, we're offering old fashioned dingy concourses, with nowhere to sit, disgraceful toilets, a crap range of food and drink, and little chance of getting served before kick off and at half time. I'd love to be able to get a train to New Street, maybe have a couple of pints in Brum, then wander to the ground and get something to eat and more drinks there. Then stay around for an hour after and walk back and get the train home.

I've said also said before that the only way for Atairos to make a return on their investment will be to have a massive mixed use development, and these board level appointments would seem to confirm that that's very much the thinking.

"Tailgate parties" like the ones they had at Wembley on the few occasions I went to watch the NFL were a lot of fun & me & a group of mates spent a lot of time & a lot of money before we even entered the ground.

Not sure if they have them at Spurs stadium, as I haven't watched NFL over here for a few years now, but ideally, there needs to be a festival atmosphere with lots of music, food, drink, games & market stalls to make a good day of it.

The NFL games have it down to a tee...

I've never been to a UK NFL game (and have no desire to) but I went to one in New York, and it's very much a day out. Obviously the game lends itself a lot more to not actually bothering to watch most of it ( ) but as you say, it's an absolute masterclass in making money.

The last one I went to I was absolutely rat-arsed before I even got into the ground.

So much so that we were worried I wouldn't get in, lol... I got in, but I couldn't tell you what happened in the game... 😂

If we could organise something similar to the NFL tailgate parties before games, we could make a decent wedge of cash, IF, the fans become aware of what it actually is so that they turn up to be able to make up their minds if its for them, & hopefully they have an experience that makes them want to come back & do it all over again.