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[Billy Walker]

Ha, ha! True.

That's just it though - I genuinely wonder if the likes of Lerner and Ellis Short are taking a very close interest in all this.  Americans being Americans, I wouldn't be surprised if they are scoping it all out.

[ROBBO]

Surely Chelsea will be worried, I hope they really bring the hammer down on all the cheating bastards, except Villa of course who always play by the rules.

[VILLA MOLE]

Surely Chelsea will be worried, I hope they really bring the hammer down on all the cheating bastards, except Villa of course who always play by the rules.

Didnt we sell Villa Park to help with our figures 

[ChicagoLion]

Surely Chelsea will be worried, I hope they really bring the hammer down on all the cheating bastards, except Villa of course who always play by the rules.

Didnt we sell Villa Park to help with our figures 

Yes, but as long as the buyers paid close to approximate market value then its OK.
This stuff is on another level altogether.

[DB]

Fraudiola said last year he would be gone the next day if he had been lied to.

[London Villan]

They’ll be just fine and fined.

Money talks

It does when you're up against UEFA, I don't think it will be that easy up against the interests of the other 19 clubs in this country.

I reckon they'll get points deduction and their titles stripped, they won't get relegated though which they should.

Rememeber this is the club that has taken our best player 4 times in this period, all through fucking cheating.

And that's it, in a nutshell.

We'd have been so much better off if we'd kept those players; perhaps never been relegated etc. Barry, Milner, Delph and Grealish. That's quite a set of midfielders.

Each one of them was the current team captain too.

[eamonn]

Fraudiola said last year he would be gone the next day if he had been lied to.

Would I lie to you, baby?

[Dave P]

Surely Chelsea will be worried, I hope they really bring the hammer down on all the cheating bastards, except Villa of course who always play by the rules.

Didnt we sell Villa Park to help with our figures 

Yes, but as long as the buyers paid close to approximate market value then its OK.
This stuff is on another level altogether.

Absolutely correct.  The sale of the ground (or any other asset) to bring quick money in is not forbidden as long as it's market value for land etc.  The issue is if you go further down the swanny and can't buy it back.  We are fortunate that the club did buy VP back.

The Man City / Etihad numberwang is off the chart.

[Jon Crofts]

I don't know if it's been mentioned here, but the other thing Man City may have to face are issues concerning taxes paid.  For example, if the allegation that Mancini was paid two salaries, one "official" and the other under the table, is true then I'm sure HMRC would like to get involved.

On top of that there are other issues at play?  If we go back to Randy Lerner (and other owners who have taken a huge financial hit during the period of time in question), I genuinely wonder if they all have a legal case to reclaim lost finances due to Man City's cheating?  Going a bit further, do other clubs' match-paying fans have a legal case to build against Man City?  All those Villa fans who went to Wembley to see the team lose to a bunch of (alleged) crooks - do they have the right to be compensated in some way if Man City are found guilty?

If we were in the USA, they'd be shooting everyone for everything!

Fixed that for you.

[villadelph]

I don't know if it's been mentioned here, but the other thing Man City may have to face are issues concerning taxes paid.  For example, if the allegation that Mancini was paid two salaries, one "official" and the other under the table, is true then I'm sure HMRC would like to get involved.

On top of that there are other issues at play?  If we go back to Randy Lerner (and other owners who have taken a huge financial hit during the period of time in question), I genuinely wonder if they all have a legal case to reclaim lost finances due to Man City's cheating?  Going a bit further, do other clubs' match-paying fans have a legal case to build against Man City?  All those Villa fans who went to Wembley to see the team lose to a bunch of (alleged) crooks - do they have the right to be compensated in some way if Man City are found guilty?

If we were in the USA, they'd be shooting everyone for everything!

Fixed that for you.

Not funny, at all.

[pauliewalnuts]

Don't Man City have the most expensive naming rights ever on their stadium?

Almost 70m a year. As if.

[LeeB]

Don't Man City have the most expensive naming rights ever on their stadium?

Almost 70m a year. As if.

It's worth it though so everyone can say 'emptyhad'

[ADVILLAFAN]

Fraudiola said last year he would be gone the next day if he had been lied to.

I'm sure he'll leave if he can't spend 10 times the amount of his nearest rival

[LeeB]

Fraudiola said last year he would be gone the next day if he had been lied to.

I'm sure he'll leave if he can't spend 10 times the amount of his nearest rival

Is there not any kind of professional desire in the man to go and prove himself at a club with lesser resources?

It's like being the best boxer in the world because you're the only one allowed to fight with lead weights sown into your gloves

[Martin Carruthers]

Fraudiola said last year he would be gone the next day if he had been lied to.

I'm sure he'll leave if he can't spend 10 times the amount of his nearest rival

Is there not any kind of professional desire in the man to go and prove himself at a club with lesser resources?

It's like being the best boxer in the world because you're the only one allowed to fight with lead weights sown into your gloves

I've always thought that, if I was considered the best manager in the world I'd want to go and try to win the league with St. Mirren or something.