NSWE Investment

[Drummond]

Why don't we suspend a glass floor below a huge Zeppelin and float over the pitch during the game.
Then the Zepellin can float back to New Street Station, picking ip passengers on the way and thus solve the Transport problem

That's not the daftest thought you've ever had.

[ChicagoLion]

Why don't we suspend a glass floor below a huge Zeppelin and float over the pitch during the game.
Then the Zepellin can float back to New Street Station, picking ip passengers on the way and thus solve the Transport problem

That's not the daftest thought you've ever had.

Sad.

[cdbearsfan]

Fill the corners in at the sitting quietly and knitting end but leave the Holte as a separate stand, please.

[robbo1874]

I don't want the corners filled in when they build the new North Stand.

A lot of peole agree with you Darren and I completely get that aethetics are a huge part of what Villa Park means to many of us.  But the reality is even with 50k seats we'll still only have the 9th largest stadium in the PL (5 of those 60k + once Anfield expansion is complete).  With all the revenue based FFP regs there's going to come a point that IF we can attract enough fans we're going to have to find a way to fit them in.  If that means filling in the corners at the North stand end I could live with it.  A horseshoe with the Holte as a centerpiece would still be a decent looking stadium. 

And let face it, the ground we all go gooyey eyed over doesn't exist any more.  Once the north has gone, all that remains are 3 cheaply built stands, the oldest built in 1993.  So yes, hopefully the new North will be a great design we can be proud of, but if the owners feel we need corners filled in to achieve what they want to, I hope there's not too much resistance from a fan base that will be quick to point out how we continue to underachieve against the 'Big 6,' who other than Chelsea (who timed their billionaire run perfectly), all have filled in corners.  What's more, we're in danger of getting left behind by the likes of West Ham who have an average attendance this season of 57k and the Geordies who have an av attendance of 51k and I presume whose new owners will be looking to increase their 52.5k capacity soon enough.

The North is our one chance to get the stadium right.  What they build will have to see us through for the next 20 years or so, so I truly hope they get it right.  If they can initially keep it as a stand alone then that's great, but surely they must build it with a view to easily and relatively cheaply being able to fill in the corners at a later date as and when we need to? 

I saw some designs a couple of months ago and was pretty surprised to see out of the 3 (I think) options presented that the stand-alone no corners option would deliver the biggest capacity increase. If that’s what it is, get it done.

[chrisw1]

I don't want the corners filled in when they build the new North Stand.

A lot of peole agree with you Darren and I completely get that aethetics are a huge part of what Villa Park means to many of us.  But the reality is even with 50k seats we'll still only have the 9th largest stadium in the PL (5 of those 60k + once Anfield expansion is complete).  With all the revenue based FFP regs there's going to come a point that IF we can attract enough fans we're going to have to find a way to fit them in.  If that means filling in the corners at the North stand end I could live with it.  A horseshoe with the Holte as a centerpiece would still be a decent looking stadium. 

And let face it, the ground we all go gooyey eyed over doesn't exist any more.  Once the north has gone, all that remains are 3 cheaply built stands, the oldest built in 1993.  So yes, hopefully the new North will be a great design we can be proud of, but if the owners feel we need corners filled in to achieve what they want to, I hope there's not too much resistance from a fan base that will be quick to point out how we continue to underachieve against the 'Big 6,' who other than Chelsea (who timed their billionaire run perfectly), all have filled in corners.  What's more, we're in danger of getting left behind by the likes of West Ham who have an average attendance this season of 57k and the Geordies who have an av attendance of 51k and I presume whose new owners will be looking to increase their 52.5k capacity soon enough.

The North is our one chance to get the stadium right.  What they build will have to see us through for the next 20 years or so, so I truly hope they get it right.  If they can initially keep it as a stand alone then that's great, but surely they must build it with a view to easily and relatively cheaply being able to fill in the corners at a later date as and when we need to? 

I saw some designs a couple of months ago and was pretty surprised to see out of the 3 (I think) options presented that the stand-alone no corners option would deliver the biggest capacity increase. If that’s what it is, get it done.

Yes, build that.  Then fill in the corners.  Simple maths tells me that would increase the number of seats.

[Marlon From Bearwood]

I don't want the corners filled in when they build the new North Stand.

A lot of peole agree with you Darren and I completely get that aethetics are a huge part of what Villa Park means to many of us.  But the reality is even with 50k seats we'll still only have the 9th largest stadium in the PL (5 of those 60k + once Anfield expansion is complete).  With all the revenue based FFP regs there's going to come a point that IF we can attract enough fans we're going to have to find a way to fit them in.  If that means filling in the corners at the North stand end I could live with it.  A horseshoe with the Holte as a centerpiece would still be a decent looking stadium. 

And let face it, the ground we all go gooyey eyed over doesn't exist any more.  Once the north has gone, all that remains are 3 cheaply built stands, the oldest built in 1993.  So yes, hopefully the new North will be a great design we can be proud of, but if the owners feel we need corners filled in to achieve what they want to, I hope there's not too much resistance from a fan base that will be quick to point out how we continue to underachieve against the 'Big 6,' who other than Chelsea (who timed their billionaire run perfectly), all have filled in corners.  What's more, we're in danger of getting left behind by the likes of West Ham who have an average attendance this season of 57k and the Geordies who have an av attendance of 51k and I presume whose new owners will be looking to increase their 52.5k capacity soon enough.

The North is our one chance to get the stadium right.  What they build will have to see us through for the next 20 years or so, so I truly hope they get it right.  If they can initially keep it as a stand alone then that's great, but surely they must build it with a view to easily and relatively cheaply being able to fill in the corners at a later date as and when we need to? 

I saw some designs a couple of months ago and was pretty surprised to see out of the 3 (I think) options presented that the stand-alone no corners option would deliver the biggest capacity increase. If that’s what it is, get it done.

Where are these designs and different options available to view? I’ve seen nothing apart from a North Stand drawing on Twitter that looked like a fan had knocked up.

[Brazilian Villain]

I saw some designs a couple of months ago and was pretty surprised to see out of the 3 (I think) options presented that the stand-alone no corners option would deliver the biggest capacity increase. If that’s what it is, get it done.

Where are these designs and different options available to view? I’ve seen nothing apart from a North Stand drawing on Twitter that looked like a fan had knocked up.

I think he might be referring to an analysis that was done under Lerner and of the 3 options presented then the stand alone North Stand had the highest capacity which was a bit surprising. I'd imagine NSWE have done their own analyses/potential designs.

[Drummond]

Whatever the designs, it's bound to split opinion. Too modern, not modern enough, more for corporate, not enough, kids will love/hate it. Etc.

Just make it big enough, with decent facilities and cheap enough to sit in please, whilst respecting what Aston Villa means to so many people. All the while making sure we do it in harmony with the local community, upon whom we descend 21 times a year (allowing for one pre-season friendly and one home cup match out of the three we play!).

[Hookeysmith]

 
[/quote]I saw some designs a couple of months ago and was pretty surprised to see out of the 3 (I think) options presented that the stand-alone no corners option would deliver the biggest capacity increase. If that’s what it is, get it done.
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Where are these images?

[Chris Harte]

If, as a few have suggested we make the Witton Lane/DE Stand safe standing on the lower tier, are we going to give away fans the same? Surely if you make a tier all safe standing then all of it has to be the same, otherwise the sightlines would be affected for the away seats. I would have thought the club would want to give away fans seats rather than safe standing in an attempt to lessen the vocal impact of them being present. Alternatively, if we move away supporters, where do we put them? It's something that needs to be carefully considered.

[frank black]

I imagine if they are going to try safe standing it’ll be in a new space rather than where season ticket holders are sat.

[Ads]

Walking around up to Dale and o to Castle Street today, Liverpool was again rammed with people on bars and restaurants, self evidently attending tonight's game.

They obviously have a tonne of tourists, but an increase in their capacity from roughly what we have now, to roughly what we're aiming for, is a big boost to the local economy. You'd think that BCC would do everything they could to improve infrastructure, as we will attract more tourists with more match day tickets likely to be available.

[Des Little]

We don’t (or can’t) drink in town, remember. Non starter I’m afraid.

[cdbearsfan]

I don't think Birmingham City Council are particularly bothered about people drinking in town. They've gone out of their way to discourage it in recent years. They'd rather close all the pubs and convert them to flats for London workers using HS2.

[robbo1874]

I don't want the corners filled in when they build the new North Stand.

A lot of peole agree with you Darren and I completely get that aethetics are a huge part of what Villa Park means to many of us.  But the reality is even with 50k seats we'll still only have the 9th largest stadium in the PL (5 of those 60k + once Anfield expansion is complete).  With all the revenue based FFP regs there's going to come a point that IF we can attract enough fans we're going to have to find a way to fit them in.  If that means filling in the corners at the North stand end I could live with it.  A horseshoe with the Holte as a centerpiece would still be a decent looking stadium. 

And let face it, the ground we all go gooyey eyed over doesn't exist any more.  Once the north has gone, all that remains are 3 cheaply built stands, the oldest built in 1993.  So yes, hopefully the new North will be a great design we can be proud of, but if the owners feel we need corners filled in to achieve what they want to, I hope there's not too much resistance from a fan base that will be quick to point out how we continue to underachieve against the 'Big 6,' who other than Chelsea (who timed their billionaire run perfectly), all have filled in corners.  What's more, we're in danger of getting left behind by the likes of West Ham who have an average attendance this season of 57k and the Geordies who have an av attendance of 51k and I presume whose new owners will be looking to increase their 52.5k capacity soon enough.

The North is our one chance to get the stadium right.  What they build will have to see us through for the next 20 years or so, so I truly hope they get it right.  If they can initially keep it as a stand alone then that's great, but surely they must build it with a view to easily and relatively cheaply being able to fill in the corners at a later date as and when we need to? 

I saw some designs a couple of months ago and was pretty surprised to see out of the 3 (I think) options presented that the stand-alone no corners option would deliver the biggest capacity increase. If that’s what it is, get it done.

Yes, build that.  Then fill in the corners.  Simple maths tells me that would increase the number of seats.

Simple practicalities may prevent that, else they’d have likely included that as one of the options.