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[VILLA MOLE]

I want to see designs! This absolutely goes to the heart of my childhood and a weird love of ground development. I used to love the higgeldy-piggeldy grounds you had on Football Italia on Channel 4 or whacky shit ones like the Mannor Ground and I'd love either drawing them, complete with thousands of circles for fans or making stands out of Lego.

It's carried on a fascination now for any ground redeployment. Give me my North Stand design fix Purslow!

yep fascinated by grounds,  as a kid  i used to make them out of cardboard  Although the new stadium bowls don’t appeal as much

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Yeah I agree. Not so fussed over new grounds. Like you say, bowls are a bit meh, but I love seeing the evolution of grounds. Hillsborough as a nipper fascinated me, with that opened ended corner they have next to the Leppings Lane End.

[SoccerHQ]

Really interesting to hear what he has to say and there could be exciting times ahead, and he speaks so well.
Can you imagine anything remotely close to this coming from any other club in the region?

Wolves would point to making QFs of europa a few years back and not being far off euro contention this season either.

Let's not give it the big 'un until we're regularly finishing above them and making europa ourselves as we've seen countless times stuff like Grealish leaving can stall our progress by a year or two.

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Really interesting to hear what he has to say and there could be exciting times ahead, and he speaks so well.
Can you imagine anything remotely close to this coming from any other club in the region?

Wolves would point to making QFs of europa a few years back and not being far off euro contention this season either.

Let's not give it the big 'un until we're regularly finishing above them and making europa ourselves as we've seen countless times stuff like Grealish leaving can stall our progress by a year or two.

Wolves success is measured by finishing above us. Just listen to their tin pot support.

Aston Villa are and always will be the yardstick round here, regardless.

Our progression isn't measured in such parochial terms.

[john e]

Yeah I agree. Not so fussed over new grounds. Like you say, bowls are a bit meh, but I love seeing the evolution of grounds. Hillsborough as a nipper fascinated me, with that opened ended corner they have next to the Leppings Lane End.

Yeah I agree. Not so fussed over new grounds. Like you say, bowls are a bit meh, but I love seeing the evolution of grounds. Hillsborough as a nipper fascinated me, with that opened ended corner they have next to the Leppings Lane End.

I am with you on Newgrounds

One ground I would like to visit is Napoli
I know it’s an old falling down ruin, but that’s the reason I want visit

[LeeB]

I want to see designs! This absolutely goes to the heart of my childhood and a weird love of ground development. I used to love the higgeldy-piggeldy grounds you had on Football Italia on Channel 4 or whacky shit ones like the Mannor Ground and I'd love either drawing them, complete with thousands of circles for fans or making stands out of Lego.

It's carried on a fascination now for any ground redeployment. Give me my North Stand design fix Purslow!

The absolute king of mad, mad stadiums was the Norwich stadium before they built Carrow Rd, absolutely batshit. Salvador Dali would've written it off as over the top.

[SaddVillan]

Can they include Simon Inglis on the team deciding on the look of the new Witton End.

Villa fan
Remembers the ground pre-1966 World Cup.
Author of several books on the history of football grounds.
Really appreciates and understands the romance and history of Villa Park, something that the news stand needs to reflect and acknowledge.

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I want to see designs! This absolutely goes to the heart of my childhood and a weird love of ground development. I used to love the higgeldy-piggeldy grounds you had on Football Italia on Channel 4 or whacky shit ones like the Mannor Ground and I'd love either drawing them, complete with thousands of circles for fans or making stands out of Lego.

It's carried on a fascination now for any ground redeployment. Give me my North Stand design fix Purslow!

The absolute king of mad, mad stadiums was the Norwich stadium before they built Carrow Rd, absolutely batshit. Salvador Dali would've written it off as over the top.

Oh wow The Nest was mental! Well worth a look at.

[Nelly]

How exciting to see this moving forwards. I'll be a little sad to see the North Stand go, but I won't miss the row of seats in front digging into my knees. This development might be one of the biggest things to happen to Villa in my lifetime. Changing Villa Park is a bold move.

[cdbearsfan]

Hasn't 55,000 been mentioned before? Surely there's no way we can get to 55,000 just by building a new North Stand?

Oh and while the North Stand doesn't look the greatest, I've always found the simple "AV" lettering quite striking, and hope that stays in the new one.

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If you mirrored the Holte, but with the benefit of having it flush, you'd probably have a 14-15,000 seater. That's an additional 8,000 taking us to 50,000. If you fill the corners you'd have maybe 2,500-3000 each side? Taking us to ~55,000

[Brazilian Villain]

The absolute king of mad, mad stadiums was the Norwich stadium before they built Carrow Rd, absolutely batshit. Salvador Dali would've written it off as over the top.

Oh wow The Nest was mental! Well worth a look at.

Yup, first came to my attention when The Guardian did a piece on the 80th anniversary of Carrow Road opening.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/28/norwich-city-carrow-road-80th-birthday

[SoccerHQ]

Hasn't 55,000 been mentioned before? Surely there's no way we can get to 55,000 just by building a new North Stand?

Oh and while the North Stand doesn't look the greatest, I've always found the simple "AV" lettering quite striking, and hope that stays in the new one.

Would imagine long term plan will be to extend the Witton outwards (somehow).

It will look tiny once the new North is done up so could do with another tier or add another 9/10 rows but that would be difficult to achieve in short term with the road/houses etc.

[SaddVillan]

The North Stand currently seats 7,086. Making it a 15,000 stand would add 7,914 - doubling in size and take total capacity to 50,518.

The Holte seats 13,472, but Trinity Road cuts across at one corner, so a mirror of the Holte would be around 15,000.
Guess they'll add more boxes than the North Stand currently holds to boost revenue and include some pretty fancy corporate style hospitality facilities too.

The point about the Witton Lane aka Doug Ellis is well made. It's just too shallow - because it's hemmed in by the road. To make it a decent stand, the club would have to acquire Witton Lane and, most likely the houses on Holte Rd/McGregor Close - that would give them plenty of room to build a much deeper stand, with plenty if space for some decent catering - the current offering is woeful.

The Witton holds 9,081, the Trinity Road 12,954.

I reckon that if we're going to increase the capacity towards 60,000 then:
Doug Ellis would have to be c. 15k
Trinity 13k
Holte 13.5k
New Witton Lane 15k

That would take us up to 55-56k and filling in the corners would make up the difference.

One thing I'd love to see is a montage of club badges over the years in bloody great big mosaics

[eamonn]

I love looking at aerial photos/footage of football stadiums and seeing how they fit into their environs. I think someone has a YouTube channel of drone footage taken from above various stadia.