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Offline Brazilian Villain

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #3870 on: March 09, 2022, 11:22:03 AM »
Will the North Stand Lower have a safe standing area incorporated into it?

We don't know yet, the designs are being unveiled in the summer. I assume one or more of the designs will incorporate a safe standing option.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #3871 on: March 09, 2022, 11:30:43 AM »
Arsenal sold out. https://twitter.com/PreeceObserver/status/1501514312610942976

Wilma will be disappointed.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #3872 on: March 09, 2022, 12:14:55 PM »
Watched a video earlier showing the new Anfield Rd end at Liverpool. It's being constructed behind the existing stand and will hold just shy of 16k. They have no qualms making it bigger than the Kop. It's also a free standing end and they've resisted filling in the corners. We have a lot more room at the North Stand end and it would be great if we can surpass that 16k figure and even the 17k at Spurs new stadium. It's probably the big kid in me talking but I used to love the fact that when it was built the Holte was the largest "end" in Europe.
Me too.

For me, there's a few benchmarks that we should be aiming for:
- More than 15k capacity, and on it's own it'd be in the 100 biggest sports stadia in the UK
- More than 16k capacity = top 90
- More than 18k capacity = top 80
- More than 20k capacity = top 70
- More than 22k capacity = top 60
- More than 25.2k capacity = top 50

Currently the Holte is languishing in 3rd place with 13.4k capacity, behind the Stretford End (Manc Utd, 14.3k) and South Stand (Spuds, 17.5k).

I'd like to see us at least get in to that 18k-20k range, putting VP back in it's rightful place.  We'd have a stand larger than all bar 70-ish entire stadiums, and both our 'ends' would be in the top 4 largest in the country.

Oh, free standing, AV floodlights.  Obviously.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #3873 on: March 09, 2022, 12:54:42 PM »
Holte "languishing" in 3rd? That's much higher than I thought, bostin'!

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #3874 on: March 09, 2022, 12:54:44 PM »
I can't imagine what a 20k free standing end stand would even look like.  It would presumably have to be way higher than the rest of the ground so that the back rows weren't miles from the pitch.  In which case it would dominate over the rest of the ground and would probably look a bit crap?

I'm all for aiming high (figuratively) but not at the expense of all else.  I'd rather VP retained its character over just aiming for the maximum capacity.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #3875 on: March 09, 2022, 04:34:05 PM »
Watched a video earlier showing the new Anfield Rd end at Liverpool. It's being constructed behind the existing stand and will hold just shy of 16k. They have no qualms making it bigger than the Kop. It's also a free standing end and they've resisted filling in the corners. We have a lot more room at the North Stand end and it would be great if we can surpass that 16k figure and even the 17k at Spurs new stadium. It's probably the big kid in me talking but I used to love the fact that when it was built the Holte was the largest "end" in Europe.
Me too.

For me, there's a few benchmarks that we should be aiming for:
- More than 15k capacity, and on it's own it'd be in the 100 biggest sports stadia in the UK
- More than 16k capacity = top 90
- More than 18k capacity = top 80
- More than 20k capacity = top 70
- More than 22k capacity = top 60
- More than 25.2k capacity = top 50

Currently the Holte is languishing in 3rd place with 13.4k capacity, behind the Stretford End (Manc Utd, 14.3k) and South Stand (Spuds, 17.5k).

I'd like to see us at least get in to that 18k-20k range, putting VP back in it's rightful place.  We'd have a stand larger than all bar 70-ish entire stadiums, and both our 'ends' would be in the top 4 largest in the country.

Oh, free standing, AV floodlights.  Obviously.

Ah, so the largest single stand then?

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #3876 on: March 09, 2022, 04:39:04 PM »
It would be some sight to have another massive stand at the other end. But I cannot imagine that it won't be two tier with corporate boxes. Too much money lost if we didn't do that.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #3877 on: March 09, 2022, 07:03:03 PM »
Watched a video earlier showing the new Anfield Rd end at Liverpool. It's being constructed behind the existing stand and will hold just shy of 16k. They have no qualms making it bigger than the Kop. It's also a free standing end and they've resisted filling in the corners. We have a lot more room at the North Stand end and it would be great if we can surpass that 16k figure and even the 17k at Spurs new stadium. It's probably the big kid in me talking but I used to love the fact that when it was built the Holte was the largest "end" in Europe.
Me too.

For me, there's a few benchmarks that we should be aiming for:
- More than 15k capacity, and on it's own it'd be in the 100 biggest sports stadia in the UK
- More than 16k capacity = top 90
- More than 18k capacity = top 80
- More than 20k capacity = top 70
- More than 22k capacity = top 60
- More than 25.2k capacity = top 50

Currently the Holte is languishing in 3rd place with 13.4k capacity, behind the Stretford End (Manc Utd, 14.3k) and South Stand (Spuds, 17.5k).

I'd like to see us at least get in to that 18k-20k range, putting VP back in it's rightful place.  We'd have a stand larger than all bar 70-ish entire stadiums, and both our 'ends' would be in the top 4 largest in the country.

Oh, free standing, AV floodlights.  Obviously.
In my view you can't count the Stretford End as lts not freestanding. I mean where does it start and end? I remember going to Anfield and being shocked how small the Kop was but it wrapped right round the sides maybe a quarter of the way down the pitch. Hence it was claimed to hold 30k. The North Stand can still he classed as freestanding just much wider than the Holte.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #3878 on: March 09, 2022, 07:33:28 PM »
One thing we do know about the new North Stand and that’s it will be big.
It has to more than double its present capacity for us to reach the, what appears to be, magic 50k.

I’ve a feeling it will be pretty close to the concept drawing, from Twitter, a few pages back.
I thought that looked pretty impressive.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #3879 on: March 09, 2022, 07:59:23 PM »
It would be some sight to have another massive stand at the other end. But I cannot imagine that it won't be two tier with corporate boxes. Too much money lost if we didn't do that.

There will never be another stand built at a major ground without corporates. Very likely not boxes, as the trend is towards posh seats like the Trinity centre ones, but you'll never be able to walk from the top to the bottom.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #3880 on: March 09, 2022, 08:03:40 PM »
It would be some sight to have another massive stand at the other end. But I cannot imagine that it won't be two tier with corporate boxes. Too much money lost if we didn't do that.

There will never be another stand built at a major ground without corporates. Very likely not boxes, as the trend is towards posh seats like the Trinity centre ones, but you'll never be able to walk from the top to the bottom.

Not without oxygen if it is as big as we all hope.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #3881 on: March 09, 2022, 08:04:13 PM »
Here's a completely left field idea.

When the Holte was demolished I drove down to Trinity Road and joined a queue of fellow Villans collecting a few of the bricks from the rubble.

How about we return them to Villa Park to be incorporated in a ground level section of the New North Stand, possibly with names suitably carved/engraved in them?

Offline Lucky Eddie

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #3882 on: March 09, 2022, 08:09:57 PM »
Better still build the new stand with an imposing red brick traditional external facade.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #3883 on: March 10, 2022, 12:48:14 AM »
I think we kept some of the Holte open when it was being rebuilt, you can just about see it during the highlights from the Inter 1-0 win. So would we be able to keep the Lower North open until the upper is rebuilt? That would lessen the number of lost seats during the rebuild process.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #3884 on: March 10, 2022, 09:40:18 AM »
I'd love it for the exterior of the new North Stand to be all brick - like that Indianapolis stadium.

 


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