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Offline PeterWithe

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1080 on: July 29, 2019, 11:15:09 AM »
It was nice of Coventry to move out of their stadium just in case we need it whilst Villa Park is being rebuilt.  ;)

That would be a real piss take. I'm coming around to the idea.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1081 on: July 29, 2019, 11:25:43 AM »
Short-medium term, redevelopment of the north stand seems the obvious choice to me. Existing planning permission in place, build could be done without too much fuss and I think 53,000 capacity would be plenty. let’s worry about complete re-builds/ moving, when we’ve filled a 53,000 ground for a few years.

How many years, after a multi-million pound construction project, would you need to wait for the expense of that development to not look like a massive waste of money?

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1082 on: July 29, 2019, 11:28:04 AM »
I think the wholesale redevelopment of Aston hinted at by Tony Xia also sounded exciting until one looked at his shoes, but if we were thinking of going closer to the city, the Gun Quarter could be an option. Fairly derelict, hardly any residents save a few student schemes, virtually borders Aston, keeping the integrity of the name, and still North Brum along with lots of our support. I bet the land would be cheaper than Smithfield and the council would be supportive I’d have thought. They haven't thought of any kind of plan for the area at all, it’s the gaping omission from what surrounds the city core. Clockwise from there you’ve got Eastside, Digbeth, Smithfield, The Gay and Chinese quarters, The West End (Mailbox/canals/convention/NIA/Brindleyplace/Five Ways/Broad Street), the Jewellery Quarter, then you’re back at the Gun Quarter.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2019, 11:39:21 AM by Percy McCarthy »

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1083 on: July 29, 2019, 12:01:32 PM »
Short-medium term, redevelopment of the north stand seems the obvious choice to me. Existing planning permission in place, build could be done without too much fuss and I think 53,000 capacity would be plenty. let’s worry about complete re-builds/ moving, when we’ve filled a 53,000 ground for a few years.

How many years, after a multi-million pound construction project, would you need to wait for the expense of that development to not look like a massive waste of money?
lets be realistic for minute. Most agree we probably need a bigger ground, or may do soon. We can add 10000+ to the ground, relatively easily and cheaply. City centre site and new 60000 ground is a whole different proposition. Spurs new ground on a site they presumably already owned cost 1bn and their fans are now having to pay eye watering prices for season tickets.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1084 on: July 29, 2019, 12:04:25 PM »
They were already paying eye watering amounts for season tickets.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1085 on: July 29, 2019, 12:11:03 PM »
A shiny new 60k seat stadium isn't happening anytime soon. The owners will want to see us as a consolidated PL side before they even consider it in my opinion. The most likely compromise is the rebuilding of the NS , which needs doing as a matter of urgency.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1086 on: July 29, 2019, 12:13:16 PM »
What’s the current capacity of the North Stand and would it’s replacement be sufficient to add another 8000 seats to take us to 50,000? Not sure how long building works would take but I presume capacity would be reduced to approx 35,000 for at least half a season with only 3 stands open?

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1087 on: July 29, 2019, 12:14:33 PM »
The idea of a new stadium on the old Wholesale Markets site is a non-starter.  The reason for moving the markets is to open up the area to re-link Digbeth and Highgate to the centre so that residential areas can be built (see 'The Big City Plan').  The Planners are not going to accept a massive stadium blocking what they are trying to create. Any new major stadium will have to be built outside the inner ring road.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1088 on: July 29, 2019, 12:16:49 PM »
What’s the current capacity of the North Stand and would it’s replacement be sufficient to add another 8000 seats to take us to 50,000? Not sure how long building works would take but I presume capacity would be reduced to approx 35,000 for at least half a season with only 3 stands open?


North stand is 7k  I imagine you could build the new stand behind it and have a bank of 14000 to get to 50 k

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1089 on: July 29, 2019, 12:18:14 PM »
All this talk of a new stadium is a tad premature. Let's just deal with one thing at a time.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2019, 12:21:51 PM by Clampy »

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1090 on: July 29, 2019, 12:19:30 PM »
Short-medium term, redevelopment of the north stand seems the obvious choice to me. Existing planning permission in place, build could be done without too much fuss and I think 53,000 capacity would be plenty. let’s worry about complete re-builds/ moving, when we’ve filled a 53,000 ground for a few years.

How many years, after a multi-million pound construction project, would you need to wait for the expense of that development to not look like a massive waste of money?
lets be realistic for minute. Most agree we probably need a bigger ground, or may do soon. We can add 10000+ to the ground, relatively easily and cheaply. City centre site and new 60000 ground is a whole different proposition. Spurs new ground on a site they presumably already owned cost 1bn and their fans are now having to pay eye watering prices for season tickets.

Exactly. Even factoring in the lower building costs in Brum, you'd be doing incredibly well to get that for half the price. Which at £500 million is a colossal amount for any set of owners to take on. Liverpool's new stand just on its own was £110 million.  I don't think it's unreasonable that they might want to take their time and make sure the numbers stack up.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1091 on: July 29, 2019, 12:21:58 PM »
Regarding the corners of the witton lane could they not expand in that area to provide better facilities for the top tier ?

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1092 on: July 29, 2019, 12:22:12 PM »
All this talk of a new stadium is a tad premature. Let's just deal with one thing at at time.
Nothing else to talk shit about until we sign another keeper and a striker...unless you enjoy the shithouse thread!

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1093 on: July 29, 2019, 12:24:07 PM »
All this talk of a new stadium is a tad premature. Let's just deal with one thing at at time.
Nothing else to talk shit about until we sign another keeper and a striker...unless you enjoy the shithouse thread!


I am good at talking shit like this

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1094 on: July 29, 2019, 12:32:20 PM »
What’s the current capacity of the North Stand and would it’s replacement be sufficient to add another 8000 seats to take us to 50,000? Not sure how long building works would take but I presume capacity would be reduced to approx 35,000 for at least half a season with only 3 stands open?

North Stand 7,086
Witton Lane Stand 9,081
Trinity Road Stand 12,954
Holte End 13,472

 


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