Quote from: ChicagoLion on July 28, 2019, 07:56:51 PMAston Villa play at Villa Park.If you want to tear the soul out of the club, then move the club.It would destroy what we know as our club.Show me one major English club that has pulled this off.Look at the Arsenal fans know campaigning to get some atmosphere at home games,if that is what people really want count me out.This, this this this, this this, this, this.
Aston Villa play at Villa Park.If you want to tear the soul out of the club, then move the club.It would destroy what we know as our club.Show me one major English club that has pulled this off.Look at the Arsenal fans know campaigning to get some atmosphere at home games,if that is what people really want count me out.
Quote from: Risso on July 28, 2019, 08:18:52 PMQuote from: ChicagoLion on July 28, 2019, 07:56:51 PMAston Villa play at Villa Park.If you want to tear the soul out of the club, then move the club.It would destroy what we know as our club.Show me one major English club that has pulled this off.Look at the Arsenal fans know campaigning to get some atmosphere at home games,if that is what people really want count me out.There's no less atmosphere at the new Arsenal ground than there was at Highbury. The problem is all seater stadia and the more gentrified nature of the game these days. It all depends on what you mean by "pulled off". Man City's new stadium is better in every conceivable way than Maine Road ever was. I haven't been to the new Spurs ground yet, but it looks amazing. None of the Bolton fans on my wife's side of the family have ever been nostalgic for Burden Park.Yep, I think 'show me one club that have pulled this off' gets pretty easily answered with Man City.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on July 28, 2019, 07:56:51 PMAston Villa play at Villa Park.If you want to tear the soul out of the club, then move the club.It would destroy what we know as our club.Show me one major English club that has pulled this off.Look at the Arsenal fans know campaigning to get some atmosphere at home games,if that is what people really want count me out.There's no less atmosphere at the new Arsenal ground than there was at Highbury. The problem is all seater stadia and the more gentrified nature of the game these days. It all depends on what you mean by "pulled off". Man City's new stadium is better in every conceivable way than Maine Road ever was. I haven't been to the new Spurs ground yet, but it looks amazing. None of the Bolton fans on my wife's side of the family have ever been nostalgic for Burden Park.
I do understand why many would want to stay, and if we can expand then that would be ideal.I think a new stadium would only be discussed if we couldn't expand. Given a choice between playing in front of 40,000 at Villa Park, or 60,000 a few miles away, I would go for the latter every single time. Even though it would, selfishly, probably be bad for me. Reducing my chances of getting Wembley tickets if we ever get there. The emotional investment in Villa Park is not a sufficient reason to deny 20,000 people the opportunity to attend Villa home games.
Quote from: paul_e on July 28, 2019, 08:34:58 PMYep, I think 'show me one club that have pulled this off' gets pretty easily answered with Man City.Except that ground was built as the Commonwealth Games stadium for Manchester 2002 not as an expansion for a football club. The club moved in years later as an expedient decision to develop the Maine Road area with the city council. Totally different to Arsenal and Spurs situations. Citeh situation is more like the Wet Spam except you then need to wash your hands after every meeting with those porn-peddlers ...
Yep, I think 'show me one club that have pulled this off' gets pretty easily answered with Man City.
I can not separate the Club from the Location.I know that there are lots of supporters that will stop going and that means future generations won’t become Villa fans.
I can not separate the Club from the Location.I know that there are lots of supporters that will stop going and that means future generations won’t become Villa fans.It will irreversibly change the Club, I think people should think a bit more deeper about heritage and authenticity and what will be lost.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on July 28, 2019, 09:12:25 PMI can not separate the Club from the Location.I know that there are lots of supporters that will stop going and that means future generations won’t become Villa fans.Well, the whole idea is that MORE fans will be able go, so with all due respect, that's rubbish.
I'm all for optimism, but let's wait until we get into the real action before we see if a new expanded ground is merited. I'd love it to be the case, but even during the relative success at the start of the lerner years it wasn't as if we were consistently selling out our current ground. Things *might* be different now, and obviously there's no harm in discussing it theoretically, but we're miles away from being able to discuss it as a viable option right now.In any event, i would have thought that the north stand could be re-developed to get us up to around 50,000?
Quote from: ChicagoLion on July 28, 2019, 09:12:25 PMI can not separate the Club from the Location.I know that there are lots of supporters that will stop going and that means future generations won’t become Villa fans.It will irreversibly change the Club, I think people should think a bit more deeper about heritage and authenticity and what will be lost.If you had been watching us in the 1890s, would you have abandoned the club when they left Perry Barr?