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Offline Clampy

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #525 on: July 29, 2018, 08:31:11 PM »
There is no status quo in the EFL.

Thank god for that.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #526 on: July 29, 2018, 08:39:06 PM »
This is interesting even if a year old

http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk

Can the great and the good make any sense of it?

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #527 on: July 29, 2018, 08:43:03 PM »
There is no status quo in the EFL. If you're better than the other teams you get promoted out of it. The EFL rules were not designed with Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Juventus in mind because they never have to play in it.

The thought process behind it is entirely different to the cartel-thinking of UEFA's regulations.

Clubs can get promoted but a revenue-based system is still designed to ensure the "big" clubs stay at the top and the small clubs stay at the bottom.

If the EFL were serious about stopping clubs going bust they'd introduce a fixed spend cap like plenty of other sports.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #528 on: July 29, 2018, 08:53:11 PM »
The big clubs in the EFL don't stay at the top, they get promoted, as a rule. We are the biggest club in the EFL and the rule seems to be handicapping us so your argument doesn't add up.

If we were talking about a FFP rule in the Premier League, I'd agree with you.

The EFL FFP rule is to stop teams going bust.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #529 on: July 29, 2018, 08:56:10 PM »
There is no status quo in the EFL.

Thank god for that.

Whatever you want......

Offline SashasGrandad

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #530 on: July 29, 2018, 09:06:58 PM »
There is no status quo in the EFL.

Thank god for that.

Whatever you want......

As long as Small Heath Go Down Down deeper etc.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #531 on: July 30, 2018, 11:50:54 AM »
https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/appendix-5---financial-fair-play-regulations/

It's all about appendix D....

2014/15 *(last year of the prem) is when we made a big loss - but the club put £79.6m of the £81m loss down to "exceptional items" including the "impairment of tangible fixed assets and intangible assets". This what Appenix D covers.

So as I understand it, we can lose £61m over the last 3 years

14/15 = £1.4m (assuming Appendix D application is correct)
15/16 = £14.5m (- a bit for Youth, Charity and Ladies football)
16/17 = £7.5m  (- a bit for Youth, Charity and Ladies football)

Call it £23m. Which gives us a big bag of head room....

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #532 on: July 30, 2018, 11:53:12 AM »
This is interesting even if a year old

http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk

Can the great and the good make any sense of it?
This is interesting viewpoint:
“Moving from an assessment over one season to an assessment over three seasons has presented some challenges. Interestingly, rather than introduce the changes on a staggered basis, the Football League has introduced the change in one go. The contentious issue here is that for some clubs, a historic ‘rogue’ season which the club had put behind them, suddenly becomes part of the assessment criteria. Where this has happened and where a transfer ban has previously been imposed and subsequently lifted (eg Fulham, Forest, Cardiff), it seems unlikely that the Football League would apply a further punishment if the projections for the current season show the club is currently operating within the £13m maximum loss figure.”

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #533 on: July 30, 2018, 11:53:43 AM »
Bit of information on transfer embargoes:

This was from Dec 2014 though so if punishments are harsher now.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/30478833

In addition:

    Clubs under an FFP embargo will be permitted to sign a goalkeeper on an emergency basis, in line with existing regulations.

    Clubs under an FFP embargo will not be permitted to pay transfer fees or compensation fees for professional players.

    Clubs under an FFP embargo will not be permitted to pay a loan fee to another club, they may only pay the player's wage, or a contribution towards it.

    For incoming players, clubs can only pay agents' fees as a benefit in kind to the player in question, as long as they do not exceed the £600,000 employee costs limit.

Offline sirlordbaltimore

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #534 on: July 30, 2018, 11:56:26 AM »


Can anyone find any info about NSWE ?

What exactly are they and what is the companies value ?

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #535 on: July 30, 2018, 11:58:56 AM »
It's the initials of the two blokes names...?

Unless my sarcasm detector is way out.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #536 on: July 30, 2018, 12:01:09 PM »
The big clubs in the EFL don't stay at the top, they get promoted, as a rule. We are the biggest club in the EFL and the rule seems to be handicapping us so your argument doesn't add up.

If we were talking about a FFP rule in the Premier League, I'd agree with you.

The EFL FFP rule is to stop teams going bust.

It's not handicapping us. Tone gambled on getting promoted and fucked it up. That's what's now handicapping us 

Had we followed the rules from the off we'd still be able to spend much more than the rest of the division because our underlying revenue is so much greater.

It favours the big clubs in exactly the same way FFP does in the Prem. The only difference is the TV money makes the gap between the haves and have nots so much greater in the Prem so the order is much more established and you're less likely to get shocks.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #537 on: July 30, 2018, 12:12:51 PM »
The big clubs in the EFL don't stay at the top, they get promoted, as a rule. We are the biggest club in the EFL and the rule seems to be handicapping us so your argument doesn't add up.

If we were talking about a FFP rule in the Premier League, I'd agree with you.

The EFL FFP rule is to stop teams going bust.

It's not handicapping us. Tone gambled on getting promoted and fucked it up. That's what's now handicapping us 

Had we followed the rules from the off we'd still be able to spend much more than the rest of the division because our underlying revenue is so much greater.

It favours the big clubs in exactly the same way FFP does in the Prem. The only difference is the TV money makes the gap between the haves and have nots so much greater in the Prem so the order is much more established and you're less likely to get shocks.

The reason it was introduced in the Football League was to reduce the number of clubs that were going into administration due to spending way beyond their means, and in that sense it's worked.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #538 on: July 30, 2018, 12:13:33 PM »
From what I can make out it's a company they created specifically to do the deal.

Offline Gerrin

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #539 on: July 30, 2018, 12:25:52 PM »
Someone told me yesterday they'd read an article saying we're the 4th richest club in the country now, I can't find said article though.

 


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