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Offline SirSteveUK

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #390 on: July 24, 2018, 02:07:15 AM »
Apparently the property at Middleton Hall may have been Sir Willie Dugdales - dont know if true

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #391 on: July 24, 2018, 05:50:50 AM »
I thought I'd been quick enough!! ;)

Under normal circumstances upwards revaluations don't create an income statement impact, but if it's a reversal of a previous downward revaluation then it might. I'm not close enough to the FFP regs to know if that's an allowable profit though.

The property is all contained within "Investment Property" and is recorded at Fair Value.  Any increases or decreases in value would hit the P&L.  The Fair Value in 2016 was £36.8m.  There was then impairment of £2.6m, taking the  fair value down to £34.2m at 31 May 17.  Unless there's been a dramatic change in something in 2018, I can't see why there'd suddenly be a huge upward shift in value?

Agreed.

But the the revaluation being referred to by Smoke was reversing some of the impairment of PPE we took on relegation.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2018, 06:15:26 AM by Ad@m »

Offline GarTomas

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #392 on: July 24, 2018, 07:21:20 AM »
You missed a few.

Names:
Aston Villa 1 Small Heath/Alliance/Birmingham/City 4

Moral victories in a second city derby:
Aston Villa 0 Birmingham City 82

Trophies stolen:
Aston Villa 2 Others Chance would be a fine thing

Most supporters taken to an away game:
Domestic - Aston Villa 25,000 (Highbury, 1981) Birmingham City 20,000 (Villa Park, 1897-2018, all of them in the Holte End)
Europe - Aston Villa 15,000 (Rotterdam, 1982) Birmingham City The calculator broke (Bruges, 2011)

Biggest gate played in front of:
Aston Villa 121,919 (FA Cup final 1913) Birmingham City 145,000 (Leyland Daf final, 1994)

Superb work.

Offline SashasGrandad

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #393 on: July 24, 2018, 08:17:11 AM »
Small Heath Alliance is a pretty funny read

We have paid off the mortgage on B6 so we can move to the Commonwealth Games stadium.

They're a special bunch.
That’s genius - well done to whoever came up with that one.

The Alexander Stadium will not be used for football after the Commonwealth Games - it will be a specialist Athletics stadium - there are special agreements with the host club (Birchfield Harriers) that prohibit a change of use - a bit like the Villa Trust have.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #394 on: July 24, 2018, 08:20:14 AM »
Small Heath Alliance is a pretty funny read

We have paid off the mortgage on B6 so we can move to the Commonwealth Games stadium.

They're a special bunch.

Not quite as good as the loon who said Harlie Dean is better than James Chester.

Offline The Laughing Policeman

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #395 on: July 24, 2018, 08:46:53 AM »
Of course they are. They really are simpletons.

Champions of England
Aston Villa 7 Sheffield clubs combined 5

FA Cup wins
Aston Villa 7 Sheffield clubs combined 7

League Cup wins
Aston Villa 5 Sheffield clubs combined 1

European Cup wins
Aston Villa 1 Sheffield clubs combined 0
South Yorks Old Bill have held the European Cup longer than either of the Sheffield clubs. ;D
http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/sheffield/hi/people_and_places/history/newsid_8711000/8711259.stm

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #396 on: July 24, 2018, 10:49:10 AM »
Maybe then it wasn't but now will be. Or it's just an asset on the books.

As for comparing Sheffield clubs to Villa, they haven't had the success but they certainly have history and lots of it. There's even an app out there. 'Sheffield, Home of Football' I think it's called. It's a 4.7mile guide to historical football points in the city. And a good pub crawl...

No one in their right mind would deny the Sheffield clubs are good clubs, but saying they are bigger than us is just plain daft.

Oh god there's no way on Earth they are bigger than us. Just good clubs, good support and good history. They shouldn't be put down in the way our illustrious neighbours should.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #397 on: July 24, 2018, 11:10:24 AM »
Maybe then it wasn't but now will be. Or it's just an asset on the books.

As for comparing Sheffield clubs to Villa, they haven't had the success but they certainly have history and lots of it. There's even an app out there. 'Sheffield, Home of Football' I think it's called. It's a 4.7mile guide to historical football points in the city. And a good pub crawl...

No one in their right mind would deny the Sheffield clubs are good clubs, but saying they are bigger than us is just plain daft.

Oh god there's no way on Earth they are bigger than us. Just good clubs, good support and good history. They shouldn't be put down in the way our illustrious neighbours should.

they are probably bigger in the making of quality knives and forks though

Offline Dr Butler

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #398 on: July 24, 2018, 11:50:05 AM »
Small Heath Alliance is a pretty funny read

We have paid off the mortgage on B6 so we can move to the Commonwealth Games stadium.

They're a special bunch.

Not quite as good as the loon who said Harlie Dean is better than James Chester.

apologies for my idiocy Clampy, but who the hell is Harlie Dean ?

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #399 on: July 24, 2018, 11:51:45 AM »
Maybe then it wasn't but now will be. Or it's just an asset on the books.

As for comparing Sheffield clubs to Villa, they haven't had the success but they certainly have history and lots of it. There's even an app out there. 'Sheffield, Home of Football' I think it's called. It's a 4.7mile guide to historical football points in the city. And a good pub crawl...

No one in their right mind would deny the Sheffield clubs are good clubs, but saying they are bigger than us is just plain daft.

Oh god there's no way on Earth they are bigger than us. Just good clubs, good support and good history. They shouldn't be put down in the way our illustrious neighbours should.

they are probably bigger in the making of quality knives and forks though

It still makes me laugh from 1991 Sheff U away bus to the ground from the station “ you can stick your stainless steel up your arse”

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #400 on: July 24, 2018, 12:07:04 PM »
Maybe then it wasn't but now will be. Or it's just an asset on the books.

As for comparing Sheffield clubs to Villa, they haven't had the success but they certainly have history and lots of it. There's even an app out there. 'Sheffield, Home of Football' I think it's called. It's a 4.7mile guide to historical football points in the city. And a good pub crawl...

No one in their right mind would deny the Sheffield clubs are good clubs, but saying they are bigger than us is just plain daft.

Oh god there's no way on Earth they are bigger than us. Just good clubs, good support and good history. They shouldn't be put down in the way our illustrious neighbours should.

I'm planning to do the tour but with a couple of slight route alterations to pick up some pubs...

The following is taken from this page.

"Between 1857 and 1889 Sheffield had 95 football clubs and the app explores locations associated with these early clubs and the development of the modern game. While visiting ten stops over the 4.7 mile walk you will be introduced to the places and people that made Sheffield the home of Association football.

The app includes audio commentaries, so you can listen as you walk or simply sit and enjoy in your armchair from anywhere in the world.

As you reach key points along the walk content in the app will be triggered automatically. You can also follow your location on an 1855 map, giving you a sense of what Sheffield was like at that time."

Offline mr underhill

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #401 on: July 24, 2018, 12:18:45 PM »
A very dangerous walk in 1855 I would have thought. i went to college in Sheffield and it was very dodgy 125 years later

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #402 on: July 24, 2018, 12:18:45 PM »
Apparently the property at Middleton Hall may have been Sir Willie Dugdales - dont know if true

It was owned by the Peel family who were big around Tamworth and were instrumental in forming the London Met Police force. It’s was most recently owned by Tarmac along with the quarry behind it and I believe, it transferred to the RSPB when they filled in the lakes and turned it into a wildlife sanctuary. I don’t remember reading or hearing anything about the Dugdales having an interest. I think they were more over toward Nuneaton where they owned Daw Mill colliery and a lot of the rest of the county.

As an aside the works next to it to move the Villa training pitches are coming along at a cracking pace.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #403 on: July 24, 2018, 01:09:21 PM »
Sir William owned Merevale Hall near Atherstone and was born near Coleshill . That's how David Cameron became a Villa fan, or so the story goes. As a boy he visited the Hall quite regularly, I think through some family connection.

Offline The Laughing Policeman

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #404 on: July 24, 2018, 01:20:58 PM »
Isn't Cameron Sir Bills nephew?
Feel sorry for Bill having a flat faced tw*t like Cameron for a nephew.

 


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