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Offline footyskillz

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #150 on: May 30, 2018, 05:17:40 PM »
I think he's a lot of fluff and isn't progressive just more business talk and hasn't got an idea just has some old school knowledge of being in and around football.

That transfer deadline stuff video on Grabban was pure cringe.

Shitty lap top and the old chap looked clueless using Alexa. But maybe that was the joke!
 
The thumbs up just no.


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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #151 on: May 30, 2018, 05:45:35 PM »
Lerner has nothing to do with the millions wasted since Dr X came in. Di  Matteo, Bruce and Wyness are all to blame.

But he has a LOT to do with the fact millions did need spending, whether they were spent badly or not

Quite, my finger of blame is still mostly pointed at Lerner & Fox.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #152 on: May 30, 2018, 05:52:19 PM »
Its true we were playing catch up, but since we have been in the league, 3 teams have been promoted who spent relatively little, they got by with shrewd transfers and good coaching, two things we have lacked.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #153 on: May 30, 2018, 05:58:04 PM »
Lerner has nothing to do with the millions wasted since Dr X came in. Di  Matteo, Bruce and Wyness are all to blame.

But he has a LOT to do with the fact millions did need spending, whether they were spent badly or not

Quite, my finger of blame is still mostly pointed at Lerner & Fox.

Not much difference so far

Learners regime sent us down
Xis's regime is keeping us down

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #154 on: May 30, 2018, 05:59:42 PM »
I think there was a need to spend big when we first dropped, or we could have easily done a Sunderland. We had crap players in 2016 who needed upgrading, plus we had a new owner who wanted to make a splash. It's easy to say in hindsight we could have been frugal but it was never going to happen. There have been some mystifying decisions both on and off the pitch since we've been in the Championship but if we're going to follow the example of the low-spend/good-coaching that other teams have made a virtue of, it'll have to start now.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #155 on: May 30, 2018, 06:15:39 PM »
I think there's been a few mistakes, Buying McCormack and Kodjia was silly when we had Gestede and Ayew already, we should've told RDM to pick 1 and he could only have the other if he sold someone. We then doubled down on it with Hogan.  At that point we did let others leave but we massively overspent on him and it screamed panic buy.  I'd say the same in midfield as well, 2 from Houri, Lansbury, Bjarni and Whelan would've been enough with Jedi already there and Jack effecitvely taking a midfield spot.  That Bjarni didn't get off the bench and Lansbury didn't make the squad back that up, they're not the sort of signings you make to have as backup to your first choice 18.

Fix all of that lot and we'd probably be looking at the sponsor chnages being enough to get us onside with FFP.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #156 on: May 30, 2018, 06:18:20 PM »
I didn't see anything wrong with buying Kodjia. Gestede or Ayew would not have got the goals he did.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #157 on: May 30, 2018, 06:26:39 PM »
I didn't see anything wrong with buying Kodjia. Gestede or Ayew would not have got the goals he did.

I didn't say that though, I said we should've picked one from Kodjia or McCormack. Of course I'd have liked us to spend a big chunk of that money on finding a proper midfielder but that just knocks on the next bit about Bruce buying far too many central midfielders, all of them being pretty average, when what we really needed was 2 good ones.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #158 on: May 30, 2018, 06:28:02 PM »
I didn't see anything wrong with buying Kodjia. Gestede or Ayew would not have got the goals he did.

I didn't say that though, I said we should've picked one from Kodjia or McCormack. Of course I'd have liked us to spend a big chunk of that money on finding a proper midfielder but that just knocks on the next bit about Bruce buying far too many central midfielders, all of them being pretty average, when what we really needed was 2 good ones.

Point taken.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #159 on: May 30, 2018, 07:02:21 PM »
I don't like Wyness and I don't trust him. An arch delegator who adds little is my experience of him. 
Chelts - are you still confident Bruce is going?  Was this based on "if we miss the target... " from a while back or something more recent?

He is a goner.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #160 on: May 30, 2018, 07:03:41 PM »
Nah he’s from Newcastle. No way does he support Arsenal.

Offline sirlordbaltimore

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #161 on: May 30, 2018, 07:10:31 PM »
Its true we were playing catch up, but since we have been in the league, 3 teams have been promoted who spent relatively little, they got by with shrewd transfers and good coaching, two things we have lacked.

None of those teams were in the state we were in either. It's like people forget the absolute shitfest we were in for not one year, but 4 or 5

You don't just turn that around by throwing some money at it

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #162 on: May 30, 2018, 07:15:09 PM »
Its true we were playing catch up, but since we have been in the league, 3 teams have been promoted who spent relatively little, they got by with shrewd transfers and good coaching, two things we have lacked.


You don't just turn that around by throwing some money at it

Which is the point I made.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #163 on: May 30, 2018, 07:22:05 PM »
Its true we were playing catch up, but since we have been in the league, 3 teams have been promoted who spent relatively little, they got by with shrewd transfers and good coaching, two things we have lacked.

None of those teams were in the state we were in either. It's like people forget the absolute shitfest we were in for not one year, but 4 or 5

You don't just turn that around by throwing some money at it

spin it whatever way you like but unfortunately we are still in a shitfest and all the money's been spent

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #164 on: May 30, 2018, 07:33:47 PM »
If we hadn't spunked so much money on strikers, right backs and average midfielders since we were relegated I reckon we'd be a top flight side. We've got over £30m worth of strikers that were permanently signed after we were relegated, for a variety of reasons they managed the grand total of 7 league goals this season.

 


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