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Author Topic: Keith Wyness  (Read 164199 times)

Offline Ads

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #165 on: May 30, 2018, 08:00:39 PM »
Hogan could still score goals though. If Smith can get a tune out of him, surely a manager who is capable of seeing player G, best in the league and player H and concocting a link between the two that works.

Signing a player that works off the shoulder and being a side that slings a lot of balls into the mixer, isn't clever.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #166 on: May 30, 2018, 08:20:13 PM »
Hogan could still score goals though. If Smith can get a tune out of him, surely a manager who is capable of seeing player G, best in the league and player H and concocting a link between the two that works.

Signing a player that works off the shoulder and being a side that slings a lot of balls into the mixer, isn't clever.

The point that had been made was that we pretty much had no chance of promotion yet because we were in such a mess and throwing money at it wouldn't fix it. Despite spending a lot of money pretty badly we ended up 1 game short so it's not much of a leap to think that better use of the money spent under both RDM and Bruce would see us kicking off next season as a PL club. So throwing money at it could/would have worked if we'd spent it better, and/or coached the players better.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #167 on: May 30, 2018, 08:23:03 PM »
Hogan could still score goals though. If Smith can get a tune out of him, surely a manager who is capable of seeing player G, best in the league and player H and concocting a link between the two that works.

Signing a player that works off the shoulder and being a side that slings a lot of balls into the mixer, isn't clever.

The point that had been made was that we pretty much had no chance of promotion yet because we were in such a mess and throwing money at it wouldn't fix it. Despite spending a lot of money pretty badly we ended up 1 game short so it's not much of a leap to think that better use of the money spent under both RDM and Bruce would see us kicking off next season as a PL club. So throwing money at it could/would have worked if we'd spent it better, and/or coached the players better.

absolutely, it's not how much money you spend its how you spend the money you have

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #168 on: May 30, 2018, 08:25:43 PM »
Hogan could still score goals though. If Smith can get a tune out of him, surely a manager who is capable of seeing player G, best in the league and player H and concocting a link between the two that works.

Signing a player that works off the shoulder and being a side that slings a lot of balls into the mixer, isn't clever.

I'd agree with that, but it doesn't stop signing a 3rd £10m (ish) striker in 5 months being fucking stupid.

My big problem with the money we spent is how much of it could we get back if we sold those players, how many have gone up in value? The inevitable consequence of signing players in their mid-late 20s for big money is that it's really difficult to get that money back when they leave, so you're always having to pull money from nothing to keep the squad up to standard.  I'd say under 27 we spend what we need to, 27-31/32 we limit to no more than £2-3m and 32+ we only sign for free.  I'd also say we should only sign 1-2 from the latter 2 groups a year.  Signing younger players is a little more expensive but you normally get a big chunk of the money back so long as you're scouting properly.

Reilly gets a lot of criticism but we didn't lose any money on Ayew, Veretout, Amavi, Adama and Gueye.  A decent manager and coaching structure would've easily made a profit on them (and we'd probably be a league higher).

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #169 on: May 30, 2018, 09:14:42 PM »
All good players. Needed to come into a stable team and not be the fulcrum of the side in year one though

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #170 on: May 30, 2018, 09:22:47 PM »
Indeed but they are all gone , we didn't make much of a loss on them and most are doing better now ..on flip side we still have Richards who was Sherwoods signings ..its a common theme British manager buying average players( uk based )  on big money and the board allowing it

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #171 on: May 30, 2018, 09:29:02 PM »
Quote
"The bottom ten clubs have a reality where they play negative football to stay alive. We need to build on that."

If that quote is accurate, he can sod off.

Disagree. He can fuck off.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #172 on: May 31, 2018, 04:15:23 PM »
Rumours he got sacked on Monday!? Anyone else heard this?

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #173 on: May 31, 2018, 04:24:53 PM »
He hasn’t tweeted since before Saturday’s game...

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #174 on: May 31, 2018, 04:26:04 PM »
Surely a company can't sack its CEO without announcing it? Now granted I know feck all about running a business, much less a football club. Thankfully.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #175 on: May 31, 2018, 04:28:28 PM »
Surely a company can't sack its CEO without announcing it? Now granted I know feck all about running a business, much less a football club. Thankfully.

I don't for one second think he has gone, but I believe that a private company,which we are now, can do pretty much as it likes with regards to its internal affairs.

Offline VinnieChase84

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #176 on: May 31, 2018, 04:30:48 PM »
Does the clubs new financial year start tomorrow!? Maybe a reason to a delay in contracts etc

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #177 on: May 31, 2018, 05:54:54 PM »
He's still on companies house.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #178 on: June 03, 2018, 09:27:31 AM »
Rumours he got sacked on Monday!? Anyone else heard this?

Was it on Twitter? If it was it must be true

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #179 on: June 03, 2018, 11:36:28 AM »
The latest news on the Pravda app is that Onomah loved his time at Villa...

 


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