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Offline OCD

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #1080 on: February 01, 2021, 11:19:30 AM »
£90k/week??!! Most Premier League clubs would have baulked at that. Whoever was advising needs their head read. It should have been a very short conversation.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #1081 on: February 01, 2021, 11:34:34 AM »
Probably fair to surmise that he didn’t really rate Dr Shitty shoes, or Mr Shitty shoes as he should now be referred to after that interview. He said enough for us to to read between the lines. Sounds like a mad crazy time- 5 options to pursue for every deal needing to be done. Doug’s battered old fax machine would’ve been spewing paper out all over the shop. Jude did well interviewing him, I thought.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #1082 on: February 01, 2021, 11:49:46 AM »
£90k/week??!! Most Premier League clubs would have baulked at that. Whoever was advising needs their head read. It should have been a very short conversation.

Same agent as Pogba's. "Refreshingly" admits that he's in it for the money.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #1083 on: February 01, 2021, 11:53:25 AM »
Brilliant interview, very insightful.  You get the impression that local media don't want to dig too deep as they might scared what they find but this lad has reveled more about that period then anything I've read before.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #1084 on: February 01, 2021, 12:54:53 PM »
I think he has said what a lot of us would have thought about outdoor have gone on with the dr or should I say mr xia.   The most interesting part was when he inferred our Roman didn’t our in a full shift

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #1085 on: February 01, 2021, 12:57:42 PM »
I think he has said what a lot of us would have thought about outdoor have gone on with the dr or should I say mr xia.   The most interesting part was when he inferred our Roman didn’t our in a full shift
wise words mate

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #1086 on: February 01, 2021, 01:36:54 PM »

If you disagree with the Chairman you have 2 choices as CEO, you either fall on your sword or you shut up whilst recieving your salary. He chose the latter. I dont wish him any ill but I dont have too much sympathy for him, if you lay down with dogs you get fleas.

Not just that, you also have legal obligations - in that case, by looking to put the club into administration when it could clearly not go on, he was fulfilling those obligations.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #1087 on: February 01, 2021, 02:48:56 PM »

If you disagree with the Chairman you have 2 choices as CEO, you either fall on your sword or you shut up whilst recieving your salary. He chose the latter. I dont wish him any ill but I dont have too much sympathy for him, if you lay down with dogs you get fleas.

Not just that, you also have legal obligations - in that case, by looking to put the club into administration when it could clearly not go on, he was fulfilling those obligations.
yes he did eventually after he fell out with Xia. Would he have passed the Wrongfull trading Dilligent Director test though?

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« Reply #1088 on: February 01, 2021, 03:54:20 PM »
To be fair I think a lot  of people at the club had tunnel vision just wishing  that we get promoted  and use the money to sort the finances out.  Xia was a gambler no more no less and was very close to being a  successful one (potentially at least)

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #1089 on: February 01, 2021, 05:01:36 PM »
Was there anything to that Villaleaks episode? Regardless, Keith Wyness never seemed to have a problem jumping into bed with Chris Samuleson, Jamie Banfill and eventually Tony Xia. Anybody in the game for as long as Wyness would have known all about Samuleson and Banfill.

No surprise about Di Matteo, I never rated or wanted him but felt at least with the experienced Steve Clark along side him, I expected we'd be organised and in with a shout of automatic promotion. That feeling lasted a few games when it was clear Di Matteo had no respect for Clark and constantly ignored him during games. I'd love to hear Clark's side of the story at his short stay at Villa Park.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #1090 on: February 01, 2021, 05:26:15 PM »
We did give away a hell of a lot of late goals in that period, dropping two points on multiple occasions.

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« Reply #1091 on: February 01, 2021, 05:32:44 PM »
We did give away a hell of a lot of late goals in that period, dropping two points on multiple occasions.

Your right, Eamonn, much is made of how Bruce inherited a side about to be relegated but I think we'd only lost 2 league games under Di Matteo, it was the draws that killed him.

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« Reply #1092 on: February 01, 2021, 05:50:17 PM »
We did give away a hell of a lot of late goals in that period, dropping two points on multiple occasions.

Your right, Eamonn, much is made of how Bruce inherited a side about to be relegated but I think we'd only lost 2 league games under Di Matteo, it was the draws that killed him.

Sheff Weds - dropped 1 point in the 86th minute
Huddersfield - dropped 2 points in the 86th minute
Forest - dropped 2 points in the 87th minute
Brentford - dropped 2 points in the 88th minute
Barnsley - dropped 2 points in the 90th minute

9 points dropped by the 10th game of the season by conceding in the last 5minutes. If games were 80minutes we'd have been 5th instead of 17th.

In that time the only point we gained late on was against Newcastle with an 88th minute equaliser.

This is no defence of RDM or attack on Bruce but those numbers suggest we weren't a basket case like Sunderland and it was only going to take a bit of belief and bit of composure late in the game to turn us around to challenge for the playoffs. That's why i can't quite agree with the idea that Bruce steadied the ship, his run from just after Christmas until the end of Feb was far worse and, in my opinion, was the low point of the time in the championship.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #1093 on: February 01, 2021, 05:57:51 PM »
We did give away a hell of a lot of late goals in that period, dropping two points on multiple occasions.

Your right, Eamonn, much is made of how Bruce inherited a side about to be relegated but I think we'd only lost 2 league games under Di Matteo, it was the draws that killed him.

Sheff Weds - dropped 1 point in the 86th minute
Huddersfield - dropped 2 points in the 86th minute
Forest - dropped 2 points in the 87th minute
Brentford - dropped 2 points in the 88th minute
Barnsley - dropped 2 points in the 90th minute

9 points dropped by the 10th game of the season by conceding in the last 5minutes. If games were 80minutes we'd have been 5th instead of 17th.

In that time the only point we gained late on was against Newcastle with an 88th minute equaliser.

This is no defence of RDM or attack on Bruce but those numbers suggest we weren't a basket case like Sunderland and it was only going to take a bit of belief and bit of composure late in the game to turn us around to challenge for the playoffs. That's why i can't quite agree with the idea that Bruce steadied the ship, his run from just after Christmas until the end of Feb was far worse and, in my opinion, was the low point of the time in the championship.

I thought we were in trouble, we couldn't buy a win and hadn't as a club for too long.

I think if it would have carried on we'd have been in big trouble, we were just too soft.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #1094 on: February 01, 2021, 06:17:06 PM »
I thought we were in trouble, we couldn't buy a win and hadn't as a club for too long.

I think if it would have carried on we'd have been in big trouble, we were just too soft.

Good point about 'hadn't as a club for too long'. Thinking back, we all expected to smash the Championship with the amount of money spent. Instead it was like Groundhog Day and everybody was desperate for a win. Bruce got one thing right that gave him a lot more time and patience from the fans, he got the team constantly winning at Villa Park, something we hadn't seen this century.

After such bollocks for so many years, fans would happily take a scruffy home win at home as the bar had been set so low for so long.

 


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