My next door neighbours are black and there 12 year old son is very excited at the thought of JT wearing our claret and blue, and he's aware of the whole racist remarks.
Quote from: chrisw1 on June 30, 2017, 02:21:47 PMQuote from: paul_e on June 30, 2017, 01:27:59 PMQuote from: montague on June 30, 2017, 01:18:47 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on June 30, 2017, 12:50:32 PMHe'll get my support.And if (I appreciate it's a pretty big if) he starts putting in heart on the sleeve dominant performances for us, I think the rest of you will come round to it pretty quickly too. If he inspires us to promotion, people will be singing his praises.It could certainly end up as another Lescott / Richards type move, but for now I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and hope it turns out to be inspired.Terry is a vastly superior player to Lescott and Richards with a vastly superior mentality and attitude.He is, that's why my comparison on this thread has always been Pires who had an excellent career and a brilliant attitude but was just too old when he joined. Shay Given is another decent example as well.These examples are pointless though. How old was Sheringham when he scored 20 goals for West Ham? Or McAllister when he went to Liverpool?We have absolutely no idea how JT will perform. But is is certainly possible he will be a great asset.They really aren't pointless, they're examples of older players moving to a new club. Sheringham is actually a perfect example of how it could work out well and I do accept that it could happen. Mcallister on the other hand is exactly what I'm worried about. He was 35 when he signed for Liverpool and his first season was superb but the next season was a year too far and he looked spent by about February. He managed to eek out another 18 months at coventry after that but mainly because he was the player manager and kept picking himself.That's the concern as I've said a few times, at that age things go south pretty quickly and Terry could be fine now and fucked by Christmas.
Quote from: paul_e on June 30, 2017, 01:27:59 PMQuote from: montague on June 30, 2017, 01:18:47 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on June 30, 2017, 12:50:32 PMHe'll get my support.And if (I appreciate it's a pretty big if) he starts putting in heart on the sleeve dominant performances for us, I think the rest of you will come round to it pretty quickly too. If he inspires us to promotion, people will be singing his praises.It could certainly end up as another Lescott / Richards type move, but for now I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and hope it turns out to be inspired.Terry is a vastly superior player to Lescott and Richards with a vastly superior mentality and attitude.He is, that's why my comparison on this thread has always been Pires who had an excellent career and a brilliant attitude but was just too old when he joined. Shay Given is another decent example as well.These examples are pointless though. How old was Sheringham when he scored 20 goals for West Ham? Or McAllister when he went to Liverpool?We have absolutely no idea how JT will perform. But is is certainly possible he will be a great asset.
Quote from: montague on June 30, 2017, 01:18:47 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on June 30, 2017, 12:50:32 PMHe'll get my support.And if (I appreciate it's a pretty big if) he starts putting in heart on the sleeve dominant performances for us, I think the rest of you will come round to it pretty quickly too. If he inspires us to promotion, people will be singing his praises.It could certainly end up as another Lescott / Richards type move, but for now I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and hope it turns out to be inspired.Terry is a vastly superior player to Lescott and Richards with a vastly superior mentality and attitude.He is, that's why my comparison on this thread has always been Pires who had an excellent career and a brilliant attitude but was just too old when he joined. Shay Given is another decent example as well.
Quote from: chrisw1 on June 30, 2017, 12:50:32 PMHe'll get my support.And if (I appreciate it's a pretty big if) he starts putting in heart on the sleeve dominant performances for us, I think the rest of you will come round to it pretty quickly too. If he inspires us to promotion, people will be singing his praises.It could certainly end up as another Lescott / Richards type move, but for now I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and hope it turns out to be inspired.Terry is a vastly superior player to Lescott and Richards with a vastly superior mentality and attitude.
He'll get my support.And if (I appreciate it's a pretty big if) he starts putting in heart on the sleeve dominant performances for us, I think the rest of you will come round to it pretty quickly too. If he inspires us to promotion, people will be singing his praises.It could certainly end up as another Lescott / Richards type move, but for now I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and hope it turns out to be inspired.
It has been alluded to that due to a player not convicted of racism by law, potentially joining our great club, that ethnic juveniles in Brum may choose to support Man Utd or Arsenal, strange I've never seen a Man Utd shirt round here before.
Mcallister on the other hand is exactly what I'm worried about. He was 35 when he signed for Liverpool and his first season was superb but the next season was a year too far and he looked spent by about February.
Quote from: paul_e on June 30, 2017, 03:01:55 PM Mcallister on the other hand is exactly what I'm worried about. He was 35 when he signed for Liverpool and his first season was superb but the next season was a year too far and he looked spent by about February. I'm against this deal on so many levels. But if- for the sake of argument- Terry tips the balance the way McAllister did for that Liverpool side, I'd have no complaints from a playing point of view. Even if he was only effective for 12 months. I'd still be against the move for other reasons well covered by this point. On the playing side, my concern is that this deal will be far more like the Joe Cole, Senderos, Kieran Richardson, Lescott masterstrokes we have pulled recently.
Quote from: AV5nobs on June 30, 2017, 02:54:10 PMMy next door neighbours are black and there 12 year old son is very excited at the thought of JT wearing our claret and blue, and he's aware of the whole racist remarks. What's your point?