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Offline Three Spires Villa

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15915 on: July 24, 2018, 09:49:09 AM »
If it happens, and for what its worth, i dont think it will, but If it does I would be happy.

Offline Risso

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15916 on: July 24, 2018, 09:50:34 AM »
Bruce will get the boot today. Whether it’s Henry replacing him or not remains to be seen.

Offline chrisw1

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15917 on: July 24, 2018, 09:54:07 AM »

We really can't afford someone to be using us to serve his apprenticeship.

Let him work his way up from non-league or the French lower divisions.

Ferguson's first job was East Stirlingshire, Wenger started out at an assistant manager to a Ligue Deux team, Ron Saunders', managerial career began at Yeovil. They all earned jobs at bigger clubs by virtue of their achievements.

We are far too big to be a testing ground for people who want to try their hand at management. We aren't Fleetwood or some such nonsense club.

You're examples are from 500 years ago

Managerial appointments are different these days . There are coaches included under the manager label too.

I think have to give him a chance and support any move made

It's a business now as much as football .

Henry would bring a lot of benefits and I would hardly think he's totally clueless .

What did you think of Blues appointment of Zola?

Or Cardiffs appointment of Solskjaer?

Or Valencia's appointment of Neville?

Were these 500 years ago?

Offline footyskillz

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15918 on: July 24, 2018, 09:54:57 AM »
It's one tactic to try and smoke out a comment from the new ownership or club. Having said that I feel the fact it is on the back page suggests there is no smoke and all that...

The only thing is that Henry announced he left sky to concentrate on manager job .

Then villa have new investors

Then the link comes

One thing that doesn't add up is the daily star .

And "verbal agreement" basically means Henry says he wants to be a football manager .

Dave woods from daily star termed chief football writer was the breaker of the news .

There is nothing else to go on.

Make of that what you will. It's a nice story , makes sense and can fit with new rich investors wanting own man.

But it also doesn't fit for many reasons.

It's got everyone talking .

Bruce did say indications were positive and would think the meeting would be about seasons plans rather than give him the chop.

Having looked at the details and understanding how media works I think Henry talk could be nonsense.

In fact I ruling it out based on the source Dave woods .

Have a look at his claimed exclusives and they haven't emerged !

JT signed for Derby according to him way back in June

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/706597/Frank-Lampard-Derby-John-Terry-Chelsea-manager-Aston-Villa

So in regards to the back page Henry exclusive look at the wording .
I've worked out this writer wording and the verbal agreement by Henry is clearly Thierry saying in general he wants to be a manager .

The article is telling as he hasn't agreed anything plus not one other paper is running .

All about sensationalism and to keep talking interested. I put out there we aren't taking Henry !!

And due respect the type of person who may read the star generally isn't the most educated
However it's brought to many more people's consciousness due to online media and paper reviews etc.

I think this far fetched story had me for a while but I don't buy it .

Like I don't buy daily star

Offline lukey27

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15919 on: July 24, 2018, 09:56:48 AM »
It's a very strange rumour and possible development.

Whether Thierry Henry will make a good manager, who knows.

But we've got this back to front. Surely the new boards first appointment has to be a chief exec and then a management structure including a director of football.

Offline frankmosswasmyuncle

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15920 on: July 24, 2018, 09:59:39 AM »
It's a very strange rumour and possible development.

Whether Thierry Henry will make a good manager, who knows.

But we've got this back to front. Surely the new boards first appointment has to be a chief exec and then a management structure including a director of football.
This.

Offline Drummond

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15921 on: July 24, 2018, 10:01:37 AM »
It's a very strange rumour and possible development.

Whether Thierry Henry will make a good manager, who knows.

But we've got this back to front. Surely the new boards first appointment has to be a chief exec and then a management structure including a director of football.

Not if they are listening to Sir Brian.

Offline cdbearsfan

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15922 on: July 24, 2018, 10:01:40 AM »
I noticed there is an unfilled space for Director of Football on the club "Who's Who" page.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/club/whos-who

ETA: Brian Little is "Advisor to the Board", not Director of Football.

Offline footyskillz

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15923 on: July 24, 2018, 10:02:46 AM »

We really can't afford someone to be using us to serve his apprenticeship.

Let him work his way up from non-league or the French lower divisions.

Ferguson's first job was East Stirlingshire, Wenger started out at an assistant manager to a Ligue Deux team, Ron Saunders', managerial career began at Yeovil. They all earned jobs at bigger clubs by virtue of their achievements.

We are far too big to be a testing ground for people who want to try their hand at management. We aren't Fleetwood or some such nonsense club.

You're examples are from 500 years ago

Managerial appointments are different these days . There are coaches included under the manager label too.

I think have to give him a chance and support any move made

It's a business now as much as football .

Henry would bring a lot of benefits and I would hardly think he's totally clueless .

What did you think of Blues appointment of Zola?

Or Cardiffs appointment of Solskjaer?

Or Valencia's appointment of Neville?

Were these 500 years ago?

Zola silly as he never ever was good it wasn't his first
Solskjaer never wanted him at villa and was awful he again wasn't his first job

Neville was out of his depth and was seen as a win win when he was just losing and out of his depth.

Anyway I have since investigation on Dave woods daily star and his chief football writing has stopped fooling me I don't think Henry is coming or Bruce leaving .

It was a sensation story
I don't mind a new idea new management but no sorry not believe till heard more comments from established journos ITk etc who have said nothing .

Pat Murphy and the sky folk haven't said anything (all on holiday) and I can't have the Henry story any more .

Hopefully others can see my reasons why and good luck to daily star think they are trolling us as they can enjoy the sunshine so make up stories

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15924 on: July 24, 2018, 10:03:12 AM »

We really can't afford someone to be using us to serve his apprenticeship.

Let him work his way up from non-league or the French lower divisions.

Ferguson's first job was East Stirlingshire, Wenger started out at an assistant manager to a Ligue Deux team, Ron Saunders', managerial career began at Yeovil. They all earned jobs at bigger clubs by virtue of their achievements.

We are far too big to be a testing ground for people who want to try their hand at management. We aren't Fleetwood or some such nonsense club.

You're examples are from 500 years ago

Managerial appointments are different these days . There are coaches included under the manager label too.

I think have to give him a chance and support any move made

It's a business now as much as football .

Henry would bring a lot of benefits and I would hardly think he's totally clueless .

What did you think of Blues appointment of Zola?

Or Cardiffs appointment of Solskjaer?

Or Valencia's appointment of Neville?

Were these 500 years ago?

Or Real Madrid appointing Zidane, Barcelona appointing Enrique, Dalglish at Liverpool....

Solksjaer did very well at his first management role...

Offline cdbearsfan

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15925 on: July 24, 2018, 10:04:55 AM »
All those examples are at clubs where it is more difficult not to do well. Including Solsjkaer, who had the support of the biggest-spending chairman in Norway and was found out as soon as he went to Cardiff.

Anyway, the point isn't that Henry couldn't possibly do well. Of course he could.

He could also be shit. Who knows?

It would be a massive, unnecessary gamble.

Offline dicedlam

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15926 on: July 24, 2018, 10:05:25 AM »
If Henry is offered the job, it will be interesting to see what level of salary he will be paid? I should imagine that he would not come cheap since sky were paying him £24 million over six years.

If we are going to change the manager and probably pay top dollar to do it, I would prefer to coax the likes of Eddie Howe who at least as a proven track record.


Offline footyskillz

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15927 on: July 24, 2018, 10:08:01 AM »
It's a very strange rumour and possible development.

Whether Thierry Henry will make a good manager, who knows.

But we've got this back to front. Surely the new boards first appointment has to be a chief exec and then a management structure including a director of football.

Not if they are listening to Sir Brian.

See more and more it doesn't add up !! Don't be fooled any longer .

They seduced us with Henry and tried to put it together as there were some things that made sense.

Absolute nonsense verbal agreement by Henry now being carried

Look it's fake news .
Plain and simple and anyone else who choosing to believe is being filed and not understanding how media works .

That's all I have to say but no way do I see this happening and if you think about it then maybe you all will see too it's fake news.

We find out in next 24 hours .
If we can trust these daily star exclusives.

Someone would have heard from Henry and his advisors and maybe we're happy to have the story out on his side too

But I don't see Henry coming .

Offline chrisw1

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15928 on: July 24, 2018, 10:09:07 AM »
If Henry is offered the job, it will be interesting to see what level of salary he will be paid? I should imagine that he would not come cheap since sky were paying him £24 million over six years.

If we are going to change the manager and probably pay top dollar to do it, I would prefer to coax the likes of Eddie Howe who at least as a proven track record.


So would I, but I don't think there's a chance in hell the likes of Howe or Dyche would jump ship for us.

Offline footyskillz

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15929 on: July 24, 2018, 10:12:58 AM »
How many think this is fake news ?
Daily star exclusives ?
How many have ever seen an accurate one
Who is Dave woods chief football writer
A reliable source?
Where are the whispers from those in the know
Where are the other established media (only repeating the speculative article from daily star )

Come on Henry ?

I think have a new poll
Henry
Bruce or
fake news ?

 


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