Quote from: brian green on August 06, 2017, 12:14:26 PMI said last week that if the balls were put to him low and hard and frequently he could score 25 goals a season. Because I have never seen him given the ball low and hard and frequently in the box (other than the excellent goal he scored in Germany) I have never seen him in the flesh justify the money spent on him.As I've said before I'm not convinced that Bruce picked Hogan or Hourihane, I just don't see how either of them fit into how he plays.
I said last week that if the balls were put to him low and hard and frequently he could score 25 goals a season. Because I have never seen him given the ball low and hard and frequently in the box (other than the excellent goal he scored in Germany) I have never seen him in the flesh justify the money spent on him.
He did. He will, however, not succeed until we do something about the fact that every one (literally all) of our attacking midfield/wide attackers/secondary strikers are crap. Grealish, Bacuna and Lansbury because they don't apply themselves and are half arsed and Green, Adomah, Hourahane and Bjarnnason because they don't have the quality. What Onomah and Elhomody do remains to be seen...
Quote from: paul_e on August 06, 2017, 12:37:36 PMQuote from: brian green on August 06, 2017, 12:14:26 PMI said last week that if the balls were put to him low and hard and frequently he could score 25 goals a season. Because I have never seen him given the ball low and hard and frequently in the box (other than the excellent goal he scored in Germany) I have never seen him in the flesh justify the money spent on him.As I've said before I'm not convinced that Bruce picked Hogan or Hourihane, I just don't see how either of them fit into how he plays.Are you suggesting someone else signed them, like Xia perhaps?
Bruce said when he signed him that he'd watched him at Rochdale and Brentford.
Quote from: Clark W Griswold on August 06, 2017, 01:15:42 PMHe did. He will, however, not succeed until we do something about the fact that every one (literally all) of our attacking midfield/wide attackers/secondary strikers are crap. Grealish, Bacuna and Lansbury because they don't apply themselves and are half arsed and Green, Adomah, Hourahane and Bjarnnason because they don't have the quality. What Onomah and Elhomody do remains to be seen...What's this piss about not having the quality? One thing to say they haven't played well at Villa so far, but Adomah was good enough to be first-choice at a team that actually got promoted from this league, and Hourihane was the best midfielder in this league until he signed for us, you don't set up 10 goals in half a season if you don't have the requisite quality. And Green's played half a dozen games in the first team and he's 19 years old.
Bruce is a liar then.
Quote from: Clampy on August 06, 2017, 02:35:32 PMBruce said when he signed him that he'd watched him at Rochdale and Brentford.Which i don't believe because if that's true then he wouldn't have signed him to play the role he is.
Quote from: passitsideways on August 06, 2017, 01:19:50 PMQuote from: Clark W Griswold on August 06, 2017, 01:15:42 PMHe did. He will, however, not succeed until we do something about the fact that every one (literally all) of our attacking midfield/wide attackers/secondary strikers are crap. Grealish, Bacuna and Lansbury because they don't apply themselves and are half arsed and Green, Adomah, Hourahane and Bjarnnason because they don't have the quality. What Onomah and Elhomody do remains to be seen...What's this piss about not having the quality? One thing to say they haven't played well at Villa so far, but Adomah was good enough to be first-choice at a team that actually got promoted from this league, and Hourihane was the best midfielder in this league until he signed for us, you don't set up 10 goals in half a season if you don't have the requisite quality. And Green's played half a dozen games in the first team and he's 19 years old.What a fucking half cocked, bag of shite argument that is. I couldn't give a shite what they did before they came here, they've not done it for us, that's all I'm bothered about. So, what you're saying is, every signing we've made (or anyone else in the history of football for that matter) throughout our history who had let's say 50 good games for someone else, but then not done it for their new club must really be a quality player and should be considered so for the rest of their career? So you would consider that because Tony Cascarino scored countless goals for Millwall it was unfair to describe him as a cart horse after he joined us? What about Mark Kinsella, starred in a World Cup for Ireland and looked like a park player after he came here? Bosko Balaban was a bright young prospect, must have had something before we signed him. I could go on and on...