Herbert Ellis

[ChicagoLion]

What should also be put in the scales of HDE's record is the destruction of the Trinity architecture and it's replacement with Kwik Build Flatpackery.  I hate the word icon but it was an icon in three fields - architecture, urban social history and football history.  HDE turned it to rubble but worse still was proud of what he did.  The ultimate football Philistine.

Yes, this is his lasting legacy.
To think that opposite where that beautiful stand stood is the tribute to his ego.

[LeeB]

Remember the brown and red cladding he put over the back of the Holte?

Brown and fucking Red.

[Villatillidie1982]

So the European Cup was won on his birthday. Bet he wasn't there.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

So the European Cup was won on his birthday. Bet he wasn't there.

This is a resurrected thread - his birthday is 3rd January.
No, he wasn't in Rotterdam. The story is that he had returned from a holiday in Barbados but due to industrial action at Heathrow he couldn't get over there in time.

[LeeB]

So the European Cup was won on his birthday. Bet he wasn't there.

This is a resurrected thread - his birthday is 3rd January.
No, he wasn't in Rotterdam. The story is that he had returned from a holiday in Barbados but due to industrial action at Heathrow he couldn't get over there in time.

Some fucking travel agent.

[cdbearsfan]

Trying to pretend O'Leary was anything but an unmitigated disaster is scraping the barrel.

We did have a very good second half of the 2003-4 season, finishing just outside Europe, and playing some great football. I recall the ground was rocking in games against Chelsea and Spurs.

Overall, O'Leary was shit but we did have that one good season under him.

We had  a good second half of the season and were one game away from qualifying for Europe under Sherwood. Indeed, we would've qualified if the same rules that existed during O'Leary's spell were in place. He was still shite. As was O'Leary.

[dave.woodhall]

So the European Cup was won on his birthday. Bet he wasn't there.

This is a resurrected thread - his birthday is 3rd January.
No, he wasn't in Rotterdam. The story is that he had returned from a holiday in Barbados but due to industrial action at Heathrow he couldn't get over there in time.

He's also claimed to have been stuck in Amsterdam, Paris and "my own Villa in Spain".

[Villa in Denmark]

So the European Cup was won on his birthday. Bet he wasn't there.

This is a resurrected thread - his birthday is 3rd January.
No, he wasn't in Rotterdam. The story is that he had returned from a holiday in Barbados but due to industrial action at Heathrow he couldn't get over there in time.

Some fucking travel agent.

Bastard.


I've just spilled red wine down a white shirt.

[brian green]

An anecdote that throws light on his personality.  We had a runner at Southwell that we had some industrial strength money on.  Herbert was there with his entourage in the dining room.  One of his guests knew me and invited me to join them.  Ellis with his two quid Tote tickets spread on the table proceeded to give me a long lecture on horse betting and horse racing in general.  Even when I excused myself to go to receive the trophy he was still giving me the benefit of his advice.  Nothing he was not an expert on.

[Pat McMahon]

Trying to pretend O'Leary was anything but an unmitigated disaster is scraping the barrel.

We did have a very good second half of the 2003-4 season, finishing just outside Europe, and playing some great football. I recall the ground was rocking in games against Chelsea and Spurs.

Overall, O'Leary was shit but we did have that one good season under him.

We had  a good second half of the season and were one game away from qualifying for Europe under Sherwood. Indeed, we would've qualified if the same rules that existed during O'Leary's spell were in place. He was still shite. As was O'Leary.

True. But under O'Leary we would have qualified through our league position. Under Sherwood it was purely an upsurge resulting in a cup run, not a prolonged surge in the league.

[cdbearsfan]

We definitely had a good run in the league under Sherwood. That's why we stayed up. Anyway, I'm not trying to claim he was any good either!

[brentastonb6]

As if there isn't enough reason to dislike Ellis already? Does anyone know the amount he has donated to this pathetic amoral dangerous party?

Buddy that's just your opinion. I think leftie communists are far more dangerous but that's just mine. So shall we leave politics off this site ?

Yep. You correctly observed it's his opinion.
And this is a discussion forum.

I think if you were requesting to rise above politics you might do it in a more polite way.

If it helps you understand: Politics mean I'm recruiting less NHS staff to my team than agreed because my trust makes cuts. Every year. Btw this is in the same mental health that Theresa May allegedly is championing.

Social care had been destroyed in this country. Councils up and down the land have been slashing services for years. I see people suffering as a result, including football fans.

Your request has unfortunately had the opposite effect.

From ?working class roots, Villa opposing nazism, the death of Matthias Sindelar, Franco's Real Madrid, government dictating seating stadia, European working regulations (Bosman), migration, work permits, current links between football & violence/nationalism/fascism/self determination, international relations expressed in international fixtures, great union/socialist managers, subsidised stadia (happy with the West Ham deal?), boycotting under armour as they promote big game hunting  etc etc

Just how could we ignore politics in football? It's life.

And whilst it's villa related, as HDE is, it's here. In this part of the site. On this thread.

Oh thank you for enlightening me, without your help I wouldn't have realised a forum was about discussion. I wasn't aware I was being impolite to Diablo, and if I had been he hasn't shown offence but thank you also for defending him
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[brentastonb6]

What should also be put in the scales of HDE's record is the destruction of the Trinity architecture and it's replacement with Kwik Build Flatpackery.  I hate the word icon but it was an icon in three fields - architecture, urban social history and football history.  HDE turned it to rubble but worse still was proud of what he did.  The ultimate football Philistine.

Agree 100%, I also wish Randy would have been here as chairman when The Trinity Road stand was 'redeveloped ' as for all the criticism of him I think Randy would have retained the heritage at all costs base on what he did for the Holte Hotel amongst others.

[glinch]

I do wonder how an Ellis-less Villa would have fared, if only. He took more out of Villa than what he put in.

Sooner his name is off the stand the better.

[Diablo]

As if there isn't enough reason to dislike Ellis already? Does anyone know the amount he has donated to this pathetic amoral dangerous party?

Buddy that's just your opinion. I think leftie communists are far more dangerous but that's just mine. So shall we leave politics off this site ?

Yep. You correctly observed it's his opinion.
And this is a discussion forum.

I think if you were requesting to rise above politics you might do it in a more polite way.

If it helps you understand: Politics mean I'm recruiting less NHS staff to my team than agreed because my trust makes cuts. Every year. Btw this is in the same mental health that Theresa May allegedly is championing.

Social care had been destroyed in this country. Councils up and down the land have been slashing services for years. I see people suffering as a result, including football fans.

Your request has unfortunately had the opposite effect.

From ?working class roots, Villa opposing nazism, the death of Matthias Sindelar, Franco's Real Madrid, government dictating seating stadia, European working regulations (Bosman), migration, work permits, current links between football & violence/nationalism/fascism/self determination, international relations expressed in international fixtures, great union/socialist managers, subsidised stadia (happy with the West Ham deal?), boycotting under armour as they promote big game hunting  etc etc

Just how could we ignore politics in football? It's life.

And whilst it's villa related, as HDE is, it's here. In this part of the site. On this thread.

Oh thank you for enlightening me, without your help I wouldn't have realised a forum was about discussion. I wasn't aware I was being impolite to Diablo, and if I had been he hasn't shown offence but thank you also for defending him
👍

It would appear you're not aware of quite a few things - but hey ho! Fingers crossed it's not early signs of dementia as it would be awful for you to lose your home paying for social care as this government have recently proposed in their manifesto (along with cutting winter fuel payments to vulnerable pensioners). Saying that let's hope you or any of your family, relatives or friends don't fall ill at any time in the near future and need to use the NHS. You know the NHS that the party you're so eagerly defending are hell bent on dismantling. Do any of those policies come across to you as pathetic? Amoral? Dangerous? Or do you just want to get back to calling (and assuming) people are communists for having that opinion - Buddy?