Quote from: sickbeggar on October 10, 2016, 09:23:43 PMQuote from: Clampy on October 10, 2016, 09:18:36 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on October 10, 2016, 09:16:05 PMQuote from: Clampy on October 10, 2016, 09:14:34 PMLike I said, you're just suggesting what will happen in 12 months time. He might come in and do a very good job, he might not. Let's face it, not many on here expected us to be discussing a new manager after 11 games.well yeah. If bruce fails to do owt he may not get that himselfBut you could say that about any manager. Dyche might come in and be a massive flop.of course but i'd hope we wouldn't be employing him solely to get promotion which seem to be Bruce's only selling point on here at leastWhat else would we be employing him for?? The clubs only aim at the moment is to get promotion
Quote from: Clampy on October 10, 2016, 09:18:36 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on October 10, 2016, 09:16:05 PMQuote from: Clampy on October 10, 2016, 09:14:34 PMLike I said, you're just suggesting what will happen in 12 months time. He might come in and do a very good job, he might not. Let's face it, not many on here expected us to be discussing a new manager after 11 games.well yeah. If bruce fails to do owt he may not get that himselfBut you could say that about any manager. Dyche might come in and be a massive flop.of course but i'd hope we wouldn't be employing him solely to get promotion which seem to be Bruce's only selling point on here at least
Quote from: sickbeggar on October 10, 2016, 09:16:05 PMQuote from: Clampy on October 10, 2016, 09:14:34 PMLike I said, you're just suggesting what will happen in 12 months time. He might come in and do a very good job, he might not. Let's face it, not many on here expected us to be discussing a new manager after 11 games.well yeah. If bruce fails to do owt he may not get that himselfBut you could say that about any manager. Dyche might come in and be a massive flop.
Quote from: Clampy on October 10, 2016, 09:14:34 PMLike I said, you're just suggesting what will happen in 12 months time. He might come in and do a very good job, he might not. Let's face it, not many on here expected us to be discussing a new manager after 11 games.well yeah. If bruce fails to do owt he may not get that himself
Like I said, you're just suggesting what will happen in 12 months time. He might come in and do a very good job, he might not. Let's face it, not many on here expected us to be discussing a new manager after 11 games.
Quote from: mike on October 10, 2016, 07:32:19 PMQuote from: Des Little on October 10, 2016, 02:07:00 PMBrian, I agree about Rowett 100%, but do you really think he'd get the backing from fans coming straight from there? Bruce left them ten years ago and he's still viewed as the anti-Christ by many. The 'unproven/club too big' tag would be thrown at both Wagner and Johnson and I'll be honest and confess I don't know which Smith you refer to! I wanted Warnock, which was obviously not well received but it's all about opinions...EDIT - Just realised. Dean Smith.I really don't think Bruce's previous employer is anything to do with it. It's just underwhelming. And as many have said, stealing something of value from them would be considered a victory. I think Rowett would be an immediate hero just for leaving them in the lurch and coming to us. Sadly, he won't be coming.So it's not about Bruce's former employers, but taking their manager off them would be a victory? A slight contradiction there I think.
Quote from: Des Little on October 10, 2016, 02:07:00 PMBrian, I agree about Rowett 100%, but do you really think he'd get the backing from fans coming straight from there? Bruce left them ten years ago and he's still viewed as the anti-Christ by many. The 'unproven/club too big' tag would be thrown at both Wagner and Johnson and I'll be honest and confess I don't know which Smith you refer to! I wanted Warnock, which was obviously not well received but it's all about opinions...EDIT - Just realised. Dean Smith.I really don't think Bruce's previous employer is anything to do with it. It's just underwhelming. And as many have said, stealing something of value from them would be considered a victory. I think Rowett would be an immediate hero just for leaving them in the lurch and coming to us. Sadly, he won't be coming.
Brian, I agree about Rowett 100%, but do you really think he'd get the backing from fans coming straight from there? Bruce left them ten years ago and he's still viewed as the anti-Christ by many. The 'unproven/club too big' tag would be thrown at both Wagner and Johnson and I'll be honest and confess I don't know which Smith you refer to! I wanted Warnock, which was obviously not well received but it's all about opinions...EDIT - Just realised. Dean Smith.
is he?
Quote from: VillaAlways on October 10, 2016, 09:29:23 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on October 10, 2016, 09:23:43 PMQuote from: Clampy on October 10, 2016, 09:18:36 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on October 10, 2016, 09:16:05 PMQuote from: Clampy on October 10, 2016, 09:14:34 PMLike I said, you're just suggesting what will happen in 12 months time. He might come in and do a very good job, he might not. Let's face it, not many on here expected us to be discussing a new manager after 11 games.well yeah. If bruce fails to do owt he may not get that himselfBut you could say that about any manager. Dyche might come in and be a massive flop.of course but i'd hope we wouldn't be employing him solely to get promotion which seem to be Bruce's only selling point on here at leastWhat else would we be employing him for?? The clubs only aim at the moment is to get promotionDon't agree. Our aim is to get promotion and stay up
Quote from: sickbeggar on October 10, 2016, 09:34:37 PMis he? Yes, he did it with Blues and Hull
Paul e, without wanting to add to the already mass quotathon (and at the request of PWS), that's not quite what sick beggar said. He said it would be pointless even if he got us up because we wouldn't progress the season after, so I wasn't deliberately misunderstanding anything.
Quote from: Clampy on October 10, 2016, 07:45:11 PMQuote from: mike on October 10, 2016, 07:32:19 PMQuote from: Des Little on October 10, 2016, 02:07:00 PMBrian, I agree about Rowett 100%, but do you really think he'd get the backing from fans coming straight from there? Bruce left them ten years ago and he's still viewed as the anti-Christ by many. The 'unproven/club too big' tag would be thrown at both Wagner and Johnson and I'll be honest and confess I don't know which Smith you refer to! I wanted Warnock, which was obviously not well received but it's all about opinions...EDIT - Just realised. Dean Smith.I really don't think Bruce's previous employer is anything to do with it. It's just underwhelming. And as many have said, stealing something of value from them would be considered a victory. I think Rowett would be an immediate hero just for leaving them in the lurch and coming to us. Sadly, he won't be coming.So it's not about Bruce's former employers, but taking their manager off them would be a victory? A slight contradiction there I think.Nope. The reason Bruce is not my choice has nowt to do with Blues, nor has the fact that Rowett IS my choice. The fact Rowett would be coming from them is an incidental and irrelevant bonus.
Quote from: Clampy on October 10, 2016, 08:43:41 PMPaul e, without wanting to add to the already mass quotathon (and at the request of PWS), that's not quite what sick beggar said. He said it would be pointless even if he got us up because we wouldn't progress the season after, so I wasn't deliberately misunderstanding anything.Yeah, hands up it was me that seems to have misunderstood and he's taken the argument somewhere I wouldn't have. If Bruce gets us up this season then he'll have proven worthwhile, I just don't think he will.
Quote from: paul_e on October 10, 2016, 09:40:29 PMQuote from: Clampy on October 10, 2016, 08:43:41 PMPaul e, without wanting to add to the already mass quotathon (and at the request of PWS), that's not quite what sick beggar said. He said it would be pointless even if he got us up because we wouldn't progress the season after, so I wasn't deliberately misunderstanding anything.Yeah, hands up it was me that seems to have misunderstood and he's taken the argument somewhere I wouldn't have. If Bruce gets us up this season then he'll have proven worthwhile, I just don't think he will.I don't think many people think it's very realistic this season. But he would seem to be a pretty good bet to achieve it next year if not this. Conversely, if they would come which they won't, Wagner & Johnson would seem huge gambles which if they go wrong could set us back another few seasons.