Next Villa manager

[VillaAlways]

If it's Sean Dyce I would be a lot more excited. I just can't see him dropping down at this current time though.

Why? What's he done that Bruce hasn't? I really don't get the hype.

[Sexual Ealing]

If it's Sean Dyce I would be a lot more excited. I just can't see him dropping down at this current time though.

Why? What's he done that Bruce hasn't? I really don't get the hype.

Same.

[ASHTONVILLA]

Dyche would at least be a statement that whatever division we are plying our trade in, the Villa are one of the biggest clubs in the country and a step up from most of the teams in he top-flight. Especially little clubs like Bournemouth, Burnley, Watford and Palace.

Not sure he is actually any better than Bruce though, who has also got smaller teams promoted / relegated / promoted on similar resources, and would also probably do a decent job of getting Villa back in the top flight. Both leave a question mark over ability to keep us up, but Bruce has a better record at that.

Neither are exactly exciting, but would have us up near the top. Both would be working with the most talented squad they have ever had available to them with the best facilities and biggest transfer budget ever available to them.

[Clampy]

Paul e, without wanting to add to the already mass quotathon (and at the request of PWS), that's not quite what sick beggar said. He said it would be pointless even if he got us up because we wouldn't progress the season after, so I wasn't deliberately misunderstanding anything.

well yes in a way. This is a guy who people who actually want him on here are coldy discussing dumping him when we go up. I really don't see the point in going up and come next November being in the bottom three with a team full of Bruce's signings looking for the next guy. If pomotion is the goal in itself then fine, but I don't really fancy another 12 months next season getting hammered of the park before going back down. It's not planning and if you don't think the guy has it in him to do more than get us out of the league then it is pointless imo

But you're talking as if that's definitely going to happen and it might not. You're just assuming it is.

[exiled on the wirral!]

Two promotions isn't bad..I want a manager for the long haul with a plan for the future...and if it takes a bit longer than so be it. I don't get the ideology that appointing Bruce means automatic promotion.

[sickbeggar]

Paul e, without wanting to add to the already mass quotathon (and at the request of PWS), that's not quite what sick beggar said. He said it would be pointless even if he got us up because we wouldn't progress the season after, so I wasn't deliberately misunderstanding anything.

well yes in a way. This is a guy who people who actually want him on here are coldy discussing dumping him when we go up. I really don't see the point in going up and come next November being in the bottom three with a team full of Bruce's signings looking for the next guy. If pomotion is the goal in itself then fine, but I don't really fancy another 12 months next season getting hammered of the park before going back down. It's not planning and if you don't think the guy has it in him to do more than get us out of the league then it is pointless imo

But you're talking as if that's definitely going to happen and it might not. You're just assuming it is.

I know IF we go up and we're struggling next season with his dreadful football in full effect, he'll be gone. Mebbe people are betting on us signing a miracle worker then, but again to me its very much a hit and hope plan of team development

[brian green]

Of course you have to take into consideration if we go up, Tony might sell the club, give Randy his pay off and trouser 40 or 50 million.  New owners, new manager.  Nobody is really secure in football.

[Clampy]

Like I said, you're just suggesting what will happen in 12 months time. He might come in and do a very good job, he might not. Let's face it, not many on here expected us to be discussing a new manager after 11 games.

[sickbeggar]

Of course you have to take into consideration if we go up, Tony might sell the club, give Randy his pay off and trouser 40 or 50 million.  New owners, new manager.  Nobody is really secure in football.

of course, but its a safe bet that if Bruce gets us up he will at least be given a chance unless Tony is really ruthless. And to me (and a lot of the pro-Bruce lot it seems), he won't do very well.

[sickbeggar]

Like I said, you're just suggesting what will happen in 12 months time. He might come in and do a very good job, he might not. Let's face it, not many on here expected us to be discussing a new manager after 11 games.

well yeah. If bruce fails to do owt he may not get that himself

[cdbearsfan]

Dyche is younger than Bruce and seems to have built Burnley up from virtually nothing. Small Heath were perennial (and hilarious) playoff losers before Bruce arrived and Hull (I think, Chris J will correct if I'm wrong) had a bit of cash to spend by Championship standards.

Dyche might be a better long-term bet and, if he's willing to job a division to manage us, would suggest he has long-term visions for the club.

Just an opinion to counter the "he's no different to Bruce" chat.

[Clampy]

Like I said, you're just suggesting what will happen in 12 months time. He might come in and do a very good job, he might not. Let's face it, not many on here expected us to be discussing a new manager after 11 games.

well yeah. If bruce fails to do owt he may not get that himself

But you could say that about any manager. Dyche might come in and be a massive flop.

[sickbeggar]

Like I said, you're just suggesting what will happen in 12 months time. He might come in and do a very good job, he might not. Let's face it, not many on here expected us to be discussing a new manager after 11 games.

well yeah. If bruce fails to do owt he may not get that himself

But you could say that about any manager. Dyche might come in and be a massive flop.

of course but i'd hope we wouldn't be employing him solely to get promotion which seem to be Bruce's only selling point on here at least

[brian green]

The point I was trying to make is that the better Bruce might do, the greater the Villa value becomes and the further change of ownership more possible.  Bruce might promote himself out of a job.

[VillaAlways]

Like I said, you're just suggesting what will happen in 12 months time. He might come in and do a very good job, he might not. Let's face it, not many on here expected us to be discussing a new manager after 11 games.

well yeah. If bruce fails to do owt he may not get that himself

But you could say that about any manager. Dyche might come in and be a massive flop.

of course but i'd hope we wouldn't be employing him solely to get promotion which seem to be Bruce's only selling point on here at least

What else would we be employing him for?? The clubs only aim at the moment is to get promotion