Next Villa manager

[PaulWinch again]

I'm utterly underwhelmed by Bruce, but if he can make us a team, and a team that can win I'll be content for the first time in a long while, and frankly I don't give a fuck if that team plays like Wimbledon 88 just now.

I understand this is a football forum and a place for opinions, but for goodness' sake stop the fucking snivelling.

I agree.

We're so shit, even a moderately talented manager should be able to improve significantly on what we've seen for years.

Yes, being a big club helps in terms of who you can attract, but then again, being 19th in the Championship having won 4 of your last 51 league games doesn't feel too "big" right now.

Quite.

[Nastylee]

Well, there's a dirth of options tbf. As for Bruce, I've thought more than once over the last few years that he'd end up as our manager (shame I didn't bet on it). I think people need to stop thinking long term. We need to get out of this division and stabilise. Bruce can do that. If ever we get to the point of mid table mediocrity then by all means go for someone dynamic and mouth watering. But there's a lot of water to go under the bridge before we start fretting over that.

[ciggiesnbeer]

So no one knows what his playing style is or his football philosophy?
I am far from overwhelmed by Bruce but i dont get why people are so against him.

He varies but generally he builds from the back line forwards. Not afraid to use 3 at the back. Uses his full backs for width.

In theory he is happy to change formation and tactics. In practice regardless of the formation he starts with his teams tend to drift towards that mushy 4-5-1 we are familiar with.

[Nunkin1965]

HOOF!!

Even if that were the case, if hoofing the ball up quicker led to the ball ending up in the opponents net more often I'd take it, certainly above the abstract unthreatening passing moves we've been treated to for what seems like forever.

I'm  hoping we mix it up a little. Anyway hoof is a good option. Cuts out our midfield.
 

[Toronto Villa]

Steve Bruce as our manager encapsulates where we are as a club. A manager 10 years ago we wouldn't have even given a second thought to and roundly mocked for it being suggested. It will be the greatest of ironies if he provides the start of our recovery and back to the PL.

[john e]

I'm utterly underwhelmed by Bruce, but if he can make us a team, and a team that can win I'll be content for the first time in a long while, and frankly I don't give a fuck if that team plays like Wimbledon 88 just now.

I understand this is a football forum and a place for opinions, but for goodness' sake stop the fucking snivelling.

I agree.

We're so shit, even a moderately talented manager should be able to improve significantly on what we've seen for years.

Yes, being a big club helps in terms of who you can attract, but then again, being 19th in the Championship having won 4 of your last 51 league games doesn't feel too "big" right now.

If the next manager wins one away game in the next year it will be an improvement
it's a very low bar

[ciggiesnbeer]

Steve Bruce as our manager encapsulates where we are as a club. A manager 10 years ago we wouldn't have even given a second thought to any roundly mocked. It will be the greatest of ironies if he provides the start of our recovery and back to the PL.

I would be genuinely delighted if he did and naturally would support him if he became our manager.

Sadly this is one appointment where it seems clear to me how it will go. Plodding out of date  manager gets big payout after being axed within six months and we are stuck in this division for another season.

[Toronto Villa]

Steve Bruce as our manager encapsulates where we are as a club. A manager 10 years ago we wouldn't have even given a second thought to any roundly mocked. It will be the greatest of ironies if he provides the start of our recovery and back to the PL.

I would be genuinely delighted if he did and naturally would support him if he became our manager.

Sadly this is one appointment where it seems clear to me how it will go. Plodding out of date  manager gets big payout after being axed within six months and we are stuck in this division for another season.

That's what I don't get. How is he out of date? He got a team promoted to the PL two of the last three seasons, including last season. LAST SEASON. Not 10 years ago.

[cdbearsfan]

If we're the biggest club in the division, how come we don't get the biggest home attendances? And how come we can't beat smaller clubs? After all, bigger clubs than us usually have no trouble giving us a whacking.

I reckon we should put this 'big club' thing to bed until we start acting like one on the pitch. And that means, y'know, winning some games.

Attendances are an indicator of club size, but not the only one. I don't think Brighton are bigger than Leeds, Dortmund are bigger than Bayern Munich or Napoli are bigger than Juventus.

As for why we lose, it's because we are shit. As people on this thread, for some reason, seem to revel in reminding us.

Our current position doesn't affect the fact that we are a big club and have been since the 1880s.

To have a team capable of helping us live up to our history and size, we need the best manager possible. I remain unconvinced that said man is Steve Bruce.

Mate we need to get the team sorted and organised we are in freefall currently and if we don't we could go down again when we get back in the Prem League we can worry about "living up to our history and size"

Getting the team sorted and organised is an obvious precursor to living up to our history and size.

I believe both would be more achievable under a better quality manager than Bruce.

[Jimbo]

There are children of around ten or eleven years old who support us and attend games, and all they've really known is embarrassment, humiliation, disappointment and failure.

By the time I was ten we were champions of Europe.

I feel sorry for those kids, and I think we're going to have to learn how to grind out a few 'boring' agricultural wins to let them feel what winning is like, as they've probably no idea.

You don't suddenly go from being the shittest of the shit to exciting winners just like that. The first step is winning by any means. And time is running out, because if we don't start winning soon, we could end up being the 'biggest club' in the third division.

[SO Villa]

Spink, Steve Agnew and Stephen Clemence as coaches. Assuming Agnew and Clemence would leave their current jobs.

I don't want Spink - he used to coach the Blues.

I was about to post a negative comment about Stephen Clemence and realised I was thinking of Stephen Carr.

I've got one for you Pat, in my view Stephen Clemence has ladies lips.

Stephen Clemence has got a fanny?

[cdbearsfan]

There are children of around ten or eleven years old who support us and attend games, and all they've really known is embarrassment, humiliation, disappointment and failure.

By the time I was ten we were champions of Europe.

I feel sorry for those kids, and I think we're going to have to learn how to grind out a few 'boring' agricultural wins to let them feel what winning is like, as they've probably no idea.

You don't suddenly go from being the shittest of the shit to exciting winners just like that. The first step is winning by any means. And time is running out, because if we don't start winning soon, we could end up being the 'biggest club' in the third division.

Yes, of course. And "winning by any means" is more likely if we appoint a top quality manager than it is if we settle for second best as we have done with every managerial appointment since 2010.

[garyfouroaks]

Nigel Pearson now free to join us.

[Jimbo]

There are children of around ten or eleven years old who support us and attend games, and all they've really known is embarrassment, humiliation, disappointment and failure.

By the time I was ten we were champions of Europe.

I feel sorry for those kids, and I think we're going to have to learn how to grind out a few 'boring' agricultural wins to let them feel what winning is like, as they've probably no idea.

You don't suddenly go from being the shittest of the shit to exciting winners just like that. The first step is winning by any means. And time is running out, because if we don't start winning soon, we could end up being the 'biggest club' in the third division.

Yes, of course. And "winning by any means" is more likely if we appoint a top quality manager than it is if we settle for second best as we have done with every managerial appointment since 2010.

Who is this top quality manager who'll come to byword-for-failure-national-joke-and-19th-in-the-Championship-can't-buy-a-win Aston Villa? Who?

[Dave P]

Spink, Steve Agnew and Stephen Clemence as coaches. Assuming Agnew and Clemence would leave their current jobs.

I don't want Spink - he used to coach the Blues.

I was about to post a negative comment about Stephen Clemence and realised I was thinking of Stephen Carr.

I've got one for you Pat, in my view Stephen Clemence has ladies lips.

Stephen Clemence has got a fanny?

I've only just stopped laughing at this.