Quote from: sickbeggar on October 09, 2016, 07:31:15 PMHOOF!!Even if that were the case, if hoofing the ball up quicker led to the ball ending up in the opponents net more often I'd take it, certainly above the abstract unthreatening passing moves we've been treated to for what seems like forever.
HOOF!!
Quote from: Chris Jameson on October 09, 2016, 07:14:30 PMI'm happy to say I like Steve Bruce, quite liked him as a player, always comes across as a decent bloke in interviews, remember him telling the BBC reporter that they would struggle to get any highlights out of a 0-0 against Villa and I also think he's a decent manager.Apart from liking him as a player, I can't argue with that. You said it; he's 'decent'. Nothing more, just decent and decent seems to be the height of our ambitions. No doubt some time in the future he'll be replaced by David Moyes. He's decent too. And while we're at it, credit to Pullis, he's done a decent job keeping the Baggies up.Aston Villa. Decent. I guess if that's the plan it shouldn't be too hard to achieve.
I'm happy to say I like Steve Bruce, quite liked him as a player, always comes across as a decent bloke in interviews, remember him telling the BBC reporter that they would struggle to get any highlights out of a 0-0 against Villa and I also think he's a decent manager.
If we're the biggest club in the division, how come we don't get the biggest home attendances? And how come we can't beat smaller clubs? After all, bigger clubs than us usually have no trouble giving us a whacking.I reckon we should put this 'big club' thing to bed until we start acting like one on the pitch. And that means, y'know, winning some games.
Quote from: Rudy Can't Fail on October 09, 2016, 07:01:39 PMQuote from: ozzjim on October 09, 2016, 05:56:19 PMWagner- granted looks very very good. Ruled himself out though. Not much we can do. 44 games in management is very very limited. Very very limited? He had 4 seasons managing Dortmund II. Granted it's not the Championship but it is looked upon as one of the best schools around, much like Barcelona where a certain manager only had one season taking care of their B team before moving up to the first team. He did a rather good job. I'm not comparing Wagner with Pep Guardiola but you get the point. We could learn a lot from Huddersfield. Their chairman admitted it was a risk but they had a plan and have kept to it. It's no wonder they wouldn't even consider letting us talk to Wagner. It may not end up with promotion as they're working on a tiny budget (£4m) and there are plenty around that can outspend them. But still, it's a plan and a bloody smart one in my book.It is. But then stepping up to have Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Alves et al at the height of their powers is like playing on cheat mode. So is going to Bayern and City. Hes a great manager, but had resources no other has.Wagner may be brilliant but 44 games is limited at a smallish club and previously been manager of a b team doesn't make him any more suitable to managing our basket case.
Quote from: ozzjim on October 09, 2016, 05:56:19 PMWagner- granted looks very very good. Ruled himself out though. Not much we can do. 44 games in management is very very limited. Very very limited? He had 4 seasons managing Dortmund II. Granted it's not the Championship but it is looked upon as one of the best schools around, much like Barcelona where a certain manager only had one season taking care of their B team before moving up to the first team. He did a rather good job. I'm not comparing Wagner with Pep Guardiola but you get the point. We could learn a lot from Huddersfield. Their chairman admitted it was a risk but they had a plan and have kept to it. It's no wonder they wouldn't even consider letting us talk to Wagner. It may not end up with promotion as they're working on a tiny budget (£4m) and there are plenty around that can outspend them. But still, it's a plan and a bloody smart one in my book.
Wagner- granted looks very very good. Ruled himself out though. Not much we can do. 44 games in management is very very limited.
Quote from: Jimbo on October 09, 2016, 07:43:57 PMIf we're the biggest club in the division, how come we don't get the biggest home attendances? And how come we can't beat smaller clubs? After all, bigger clubs than us usually have no trouble giving us a whacking.I reckon we should put this 'big club' thing to bed until we start acting like one on the pitch. And that means, y'know, winning some games.Attendances are an indicator of club size, but not the only one. I don't think Brighton are bigger than Leeds, Dortmund are bigger than Bayern Munich or Napoli are bigger than Juventus. As for why we lose, it's because we are shit. As people on this thread, for some reason, seem to revel in reminding us.Our current position doesn't affect the fact that we are a big club and have been since the 1880s.To have a team capable of helping us live up to our history and size, we need the best manager possible. I remain unconvinced that said man is Steve Bruce.
He is a comfortable man, a wealthy man, a 55 year old man, living in his comfort zone, soon to have the added comfort of a Villa contract in his pocket.We talk rightly and at length about motivating the players. What is going to motivate Steve Bruce?
Quote from: ozzjim on October 09, 2016, 07:16:36 PMQuote from: Rudy Can't Fail on October 09, 2016, 07:01:39 PMQuote from: ozzjim on October 09, 2016, 05:56:19 PMWagner- granted looks very very good. Ruled himself out though. Not much we can do. 44 games in management is very very limited. Very very limited? He had 4 seasons managing Dortmund II. Granted it's not the Championship but it is looked upon as one of the best schools around, much like Barcelona where a certain manager only had one season taking care of their B team before moving up to the first team. He did a rather good job. I'm not comparing Wagner with Pep Guardiola but you get the point. We could learn a lot from Huddersfield. Their chairman admitted it was a risk but they had a plan and have kept to it. It's no wonder they wouldn't even consider letting us talk to Wagner. It may not end up with promotion as they're working on a tiny budget (£4m) and there are plenty around that can outspend them. But still, it's a plan and a bloody smart one in my book.It is. But then stepping up to have Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Alves et al at the height of their powers is like playing on cheat mode. So is going to Bayern and City. Hes a great manager, but had resources no other has.Wagner may be brilliant but 44 games is limited at a smallish club and previously been manager of a b team doesn't make him any more suitable to managing our basket case.I think for someone like Wagner to be a success he needs a pre season rather than coming in halfway through and completely ripping things up if you look, it was the same for Garde imo.Appointing Bruce to me shows we haven't given up on this season and nor should we, top 2 looks out of reach but play offs is still a possibility if we can win a game or two soon.
Quote from: brian green on October 09, 2016, 07:43:02 PMHe is a comfortable man, a wealthy man, a 55 year old man, living in his comfort zone, soon to have the added comfort of a Villa contract in his pocket.We talk rightly and at length about motivating the players. What is going to motivate Steve Bruce?He's lost half his body weight, had a haircut, applies makeup and is in his mid 50s. Has he bought a soft top/motorcycle too?
I'm utterly underwhelmed by Bruce, but if he can make us a team, and a team that can win I'll be content for the first time in a long while, and frankly I don't give a fuck if that team plays like Wimbledon 88 just now.I understand this is a football forum and a place for opinions, but for goodness' sake stop the fucking snivelling.